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  • wiffle
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-07-10
    • 610

    #71
    in a satellite or double or nothing
    obviously not pre in a tourney except maybe on the bubble with less than a bb
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    • GUMMO77
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-23-10
      • 9294

      #72
      Epic thread .. I love this!

      --- I am not a cheater! But now I will cheat. --

      You go one with your bad self
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      • Buried_PIRATE
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-28-10
        • 546

        #73
        Originally posted by robzilla
        The reasons that they have are borderline questionable at best.
        They basically gave me a bunch of hand histories and said explain why you did this... and then they give you an example.
        One was when I folded pocket aces. and they asked why i would fold the best hand in poker. The answer was that i was on the bubble so i folded. The scenarios are mostly me folding when my friend was in BB or him folding when i was in BB. that is hardly colaborating. its not like i was dumping chips or doing squeeze plays or anything. anyways, pokerstars is bullshit.
        Lol this post makes me so mad. That is collaborating you dumbass.

        If you are soft playing your buddy on the bubble you are letting him keep his chips when it is your duty to play aggro.

        Unless of course you really do suck and were just playing $1 tourneys. Still, good job pokerstars support
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        • the_situation
          SBR MVP
          • 10-22-10
          • 2735

          #74
          Collusion...cheating...same thing. I know someone who used to work at Full Tilt, you get banned for colluding with friends on the spot if they have proof.
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          • dmtrader
            SBR MVP
            • 09-26-09
            • 1320

            #75
            There's WAY too much table talk in some of these poker rooms - SBR freerolls for example. I'm not talking about "gl" or "nice hand" eaither. I've seen players discuss the hand in play and tell each other what they are going to play.
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            • MJ_6rings
              Restricted User
              • 01-31-11
              • 61

              #76
              Why cheat.. cheating brings you no good..
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              • sq764
                SBR MVP
                • 04-17-07
                • 1026

                #77
                its near impossible to prove cheating or collusion... this whole thread is BS..
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                • Dirty Sanchez
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-01-10
                  • 16031

                  #78
                  Originally posted by robzilla
                  Im going to cheat for sure now, and create a ton of accounts and use every IP address I can to get back at Stars.

                  Good to see you're advertising to everyone....I'm sure they don't monitor this forum You may want to stick to your MENSA society meetings
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                  • robzilla
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-25-07
                    • 3556

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                    Good to see you're advertising to everyone....I'm sure they don't monitor this forum You may want to stick to your MENSA society meetings
                    Look at all these idiots so who are so angry. Maybe Ive seen the light and u are so dillusional that you dont see the big picture here.

                    If they have kicked me off for soft play against my friends just imagine what is really going on. I read there was a 100 player chinese collusion ring on PS. Plus, the whole absolute poker cheating thing.

                    OMG, if all this has been exposed this problem is much bigger than any of us know. As long as there has been poker there has been cheating at poker, and there always will be. Get mad about it, but thats the way it is, and thats how it always will be. Those who are playing straight up are getting mad cuase they are getting beat by angle shooters and advantage bettors (people much smarter than the other players).
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                    • sq764
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-17-07
                      • 1026

                      #80
                      I've been colluded against many times on sitngos, 3 times in one day by the same 2 people (who were dumb enough to put the same hometown and sit next to each other).. I got them once and they got me twice.. I sent a message to PS, they said 'we take these very seriously, we'll investigate, blah blah'.. nothing happened
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                      • stikymess
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-19-10
                        • 3288

                        #81
                        Ban for "cheating" okay but really taking his money? they will end up in some court doing that.
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                        • Conan
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-01-10
                          • 1178

                          #82
                          Originally posted by stikymess
                          Ban for "cheating" okay but really taking his money? they will end up in some court doing that.
                          not likely if there is any proof of cheating or as the lawers will call it fraud just my guess
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                          • BeerDog99
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-22-10
                            • 4894

                            #83
                            AFAIK, it would not go to court, because there is no jurisdiction.

                            Also, he broke their terms of service and they reserve the right to ban and seize the $$ in the account.

                            Everybody agrees to the terms when they create the accounts.
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                            • mvp123
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-24-06
                              • 1736

                              #84
                              it was stated in an earlier thread thatthisbozo robzilla played in the 1pm tourny here today and the late one tonite so i say ban this fck fortrying to get over on sbr
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                              • Extra Innings
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-26-10
                                • 15058

                                #85
                                Originally posted by Richards
                                People you know? Like a 6 man SitnGo with Robzilla, Bobzilla, Mobzilla, Gobzilla, Lobzilla, and JoeMark?
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                                • bondi_slacker
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 01-31-11
                                  • 189

                                  #86
                                  sorry dude, life sucks
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                                  • AmpleGamble
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-04-10
                                    • 568

                                    #87
                                    1. This guy cheated for sure and got caught. Tough luck

                                    2. Are you guys serious about NEVER folding AA on the bubble? Obviously there's not an overwhelming number of situations where it is +ev to do so but for example....

                                    Lets say there are 3 guys left in a $100 6 person sit and go. 1st place pays out $420 and 2nd place pays out $180. Button has 5000 in chips, SB has 3980 in chips, and YOU the BB have 20 in chips. You are dealt AA and BOTH the Button and SB have gone all in. It is your turn to act, what do you do???
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 62154

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by AmpleGamble
                                      what do you do???
                                      Buy the other two guys a drink for gifting me $180.
                                      .
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                                      • Hawkeye2009
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-30-11
                                        • 35

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by mikejamm
                                        Nobody folds pocket aces!
                                        mate, i know somebody who does !!!!

                                        Insane but... he does , coz once he lost with aces 10000 leva (7000$) vs 1 outer !!!!

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                                        • necro
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-07-09
                                          • 1633

                                          #90
                                          you cheated, they caught you, end of story!
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                                          • Bartmeister
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 09-10-10
                                            • 412

                                            #91
                                            And now he is cheating us! He played in 2 SBR poker tourneys on the same day when everyone is only supposed to play 1. He finished 49th in the 1:00pm tourney and 2nd in the 10:00pm. He was paid the 300 points prize. He can't deny this one.
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                                            • levski2006
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-16-11
                                              • 137

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Bartmeister
                                              And now he is cheating us! He played in 2 SBR poker tourneys on the same day when everyone is only supposed to play 1. He finished 49th in the 1:00pm tourney and 2nd in the 10:00pm. He was paid the 300 points prize. He can't deny this one.
                                              lol is that true?
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                                              • k13
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-16-10
                                                • 18130

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by Mr Nuts
                                                Yeah maybe after the flop, but never pre flop
                                                yes pre flop, in satties only.
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                                                • fishblood
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 02-06-11
                                                  • 6

                                                  #94
                                                  Pok aces always win.LOL
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                                                  • lukahh
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 04-08-10
                                                    • 941

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by robzilla
                                                    Im going to cheat for sure now, and create a ton of accounts and use every IP address I can to get back at Stars.
                                                    to innocent onlooker this sounds like you were already doing it before you got caught
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                                                    • EZMARVIN
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 11-12-10
                                                      • 84

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by robzilla
                                                      Im going to cheat for sure now, and create a ton of accounts and use every IP address I can to get back at Stars.
                                                      Have you given the thought that if you do that you would be cheating other players and not PokerStars ????
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                                                      • Mylak
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 02-07-11
                                                        • 16

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by robzilla
                                                        The scenarios are mostly me folding when my friend was in BB or him folding when i was in BB. that is hardly colaborating.
                                                        You're not serious. Folding to your "friend" in the BB and him folding to you is practically the definition of open collaboration in a SnG. On top of that 1 or 2 SnG's would not be nearly enough for them to even think about banning you. So this must have happened numerous times.

                                                        Just because you don't think "soft playing" your friend is not cheating doesn't make it true. It's cheating. It's collaboration and collusion. It is the exact "scenario" that people will report you for, and for the average clueless online player to notice it, it must have happened quite a lot.

                                                        I understand that you would be upset, especialy if you didn't realize what you were doing was technically cheating. Now you know. Don't do it anymore.
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                                                        • necro
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-07-09
                                                          • 1633

                                                          #98
                                                          Props to pokerstars, they did gooood job!!!
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                                                          • lunchbawks
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-31-10
                                                            • 12873

                                                            #99
                                                            everyone cheats on pokerstars, no big deal
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                                                            • icancount2one
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-05-10
                                                              • 1507

                                                              #100


                                                              Poker cheats have a reputation for believing they would win anyway if they didn't cheat, and when that fails, claiming that their behavior is justified because "it's immoral to let a sucker keep their money" or that winning consistently playing it straight is impossible.

                                                              I've also read that with rare exceptions, we don't have to worry much about you, or the hundreds of cheats like you, because people smart enough to win rarely collude, and people that resort to cheating are normally dumb enough to get caught.

                                                              Apparently it's all true.
                                                              Walter forgot... when you're desperate's when you got no choice.
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                                                              • kaschmunnie
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 01-20-11
                                                                • 35

                                                                #101
                                                                you obv cheated if they had overwhelming evidence...you deserve to be banned
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 62154

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Mylak
                                                                  You're not serious. Folding to your "friend" in the BB and him folding to you is practically the definition of open collaboration in a SnG. On top of that 1 or 2 SnG's would not be nearly enough for them to even think about banning you. So this must have happened numerous times.

                                                                  Just because you don't think "soft playing" your friend is not cheating doesn't make it true. It's cheating. It's collaboration and collusion. It is the exact "scenario" that people will report you for, and for the average clueless online player to notice it, it must have happened quite a lot.

                                                                  I understand that you would be upset, especialy if you didn't realize what you were doing was technically cheating. Now you know. Don't do it anymore.
                                                                  For a total newbie, how does folding to your friend help you so much it's called cheating?

                                                                  What's the strategy? To have one less player to compete against when you are the BB?
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                                                                  • Buried_PIRATE
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-28-10
                                                                    • 546

                                                                    #103
                                                                    This is a hypothetical situation, I didn't take the time to work out an exact situation like this.

                                                                    Set up: A is the original poster of this thread, B is butt pirate buddy (they are BFFs) and C is you. You guys have been playing a grueling tournament for hours and are the final 3. The stack sizes look like this:

                                                                    A = 5000
                                                                    B = 550
                                                                    C = 500

                                                                    The blinds are 250/500 and B is in the small blind, A is the big blind. B goes all in. Right now there are now 1050 chips in the middle, with A to call 50.

                                                                    So the current stack sizes: C = 500, A = 4500 (50 to call) , B = 0 (ALL IN)
                                                                    POT = 1050

                                                                    A can not fold here regardless of whatever cards he has. If he does this on a routine basis to player B but not to player C, that is collusion. There is no hand (in my contrived scenario) where calling the additional 50 chips is -EV for a pot of 1100. Even if B showed up with AA and A had 27o everytime the EV is still positive (and yes that is an 11% chance to win hand)
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                                                                    • Mylak
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 02-07-11
                                                                      • 16

                                                                      #104
                                                                      It is termed "soft playing" and it is a form of collusion. By not playing against your friend you are preserving your chip stack and his. The whole point of collusion in an SnG being to get the people who are cheating into the money. As the poster stated, both he and his friend were folding to each other. That is open cooperation and in poker that is cheating.
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                                                                      • azgrabi1
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 09-07-10
                                                                        • 111

                                                                        #105
                                                                        thats playing with fire from the get go. sorry, sucks
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