Jon Jones out of UFC 151???

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  • Ghenghis Kahn
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    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #141
    i'm pretty sure it's around $20,000 for a year. that's a fuckin joke.
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    • CanuckG
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      • 12-23-10
      • 21978

      #142
      The guys on the XM Fight show said 750k + % of sales. Its Nike not Value Village.
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      • Ghenghis Kahn
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        • 01-02-12
        • 19734

        #143
        so i still laugh at people worrying about jon jones losing marketing ability and sponsors for not taking a meaningless fight with sonnen.

        once again, i will say this. jon jones has nothing to gain and everything to lose while sonnen has everything to gain and nothing to lose...
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        • Ghenghis Kahn
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          • 01-02-12
          • 19734

          #144
          Originally posted by CanuckG
          The guys on the XM Fight show said 750k + % of sales. Its Nike not Value Village.
          there's a reason why his reps won't confirm the number, it's really low that's why.
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          • hels
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-12-09
            • 8767

            #145
            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
            tell me how much did nike pay jon jones?

            marketing and sponsors? in mma, your record is everything when it comes to marketing.
            You wrote this earlier:
            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
            marketing and sponsorship? this isn't wwe.
            So explain how mma is a 'question mark' in regards to marketing and sponsorship, yet in mma 'your record is everything when it comes to marketing.'

            Do tell.
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            • CanuckG
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              • 12-23-10
              • 21978

              #146
              Of course Sonnen has everything to gain he knows he would of lost but can't deny the fact it would of gotten better PPV #s than fukkin Jones vs Belfort Wow Raydog come on now. <--- refer to older post by Ray
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #147
                canuck you are a good kid but damn, you are one stubborn mofo. mma fighters don't need to worry about marketing and sponsorship as long as they win.
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                • CanuckG
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                  • 12-23-10
                  • 21978

                  #148
                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                  canuck you are a good kid but damn, you are one stubborn mofo. mma fighters don't need to worry about marketing and sponsorship as long as they win.
                  ???? When did I say that

                  Youre mixing me up with another poster
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                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 19734

                    #149
                    Originally posted by hels
                    You wrote this earlier:


                    So explain how mma is a 'question mark' in regards to marketing and sponsorship, yet in mma 'your record is everything when it comes to marketing.'

                    Do tell.
                    first of all you said by jones not taking this fight, he'll hurt his chances for his sponsorship and marketing ability correct? he doesn't make millions from his sponsors so who gives a ****. and you are saying even if he loses he'll be more marketable. that's bullshit. he will always be more marketable as long as he keeps on winning. mma fans don't have to like him to market the guy. he could play the villain where people want to see him lose. but once he loses and gets the title back, the invincibility factor is gone, hence not as marketable.
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                    • Ghenghis Kahn
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                      • 01-02-12
                      • 19734

                      #150
                      Originally posted by CanuckG
                      ???? When did I say that

                      Youre mixing me up with another poster
                      oh so it's no longer "we"? c'mon pal...
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                      • hels
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-12-09
                        • 8767

                        #151
                        I'm done with this thread Canuckg. Those who have read this thread know the future outcomes. Sorry to hear your plans didn't work out... as I said, everyone loses except for Sonnen.
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                        • CanuckG
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-23-10
                          • 21978

                          #152
                          Ghenghis are you the same guy who said Soccer is dead in America and then next week I go to Seattle and there's 55,000 people at the game Come on we get what you're trying to say but bottom line is Jones is getting paid by UFC/sponsors, he backed out of a fight(purpose of thread) and people are debating if it was the right move. Plain and simple. I had tix to this too oh well.
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                          • CanuckG
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-23-10
                            • 21978

                            #153
                            Originally posted by hels
                            I'm done with this thread Canuckg. Those who have read this thread know the future outcomes. Sorry to hear your plans didn't work out... as I said, everyone loses except for Sonnen.
                            Vancouver should get another UFC to make up for it Yeah time to call it a night as well ..


                            /end thread
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                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 19734

                              #154
                              Originally posted by hels
                              I'm done with this thread Canuckg. Those who have read this thread know the future outcomes. Sorry to hear your plans didn't work out... as I said, everyone loses except for Sonnen.
                              lol yeah keep thinking jon jones needed to fight sonnen so he won't jeopardize his $20,000 endorsement deal from nike.
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                              • Ghenghis Kahn
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 19734

                                #155
                                Originally posted by CanuckG
                                Ghenghis are you the same guy who said Soccer is dead in America and then next week I go to Seattle and there's 55,000 people at the game Come on we get what you're trying to say but bottom line is Jones is getting paid by UFC/sponsors, he backed out of a fight(purpose of thread) and people are debating if it was the right move. Plain and simple. I had tix to this too oh well.
                                listen, my original argument was that jon jones doesn't need to fight a meaningless fight with sonnen. and hels jumped in saying it wasn't meaningless. anyway, let's put a fork in this shit. i side with jon jones and you side with wanting to see him fight...

                                oh and you can blame henderson for this bs. why did he have to spar so hard where he gets injured? he's the one that ****** up everything...
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                                • CanuckG
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-23-10
                                  • 21978

                                  #156
                                  Of course I want to see him fight I bought tickets and airfare for this
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                                  • daimoshokage
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                                    • 02-07-11
                                    • 8935

                                    #157
                                    Dana should CUT the COWARD JONES!
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #158
                                      Apparently Anderson Silva offered to step in
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                                      • brooks85
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #159
                                        that's ridiculous

                                        "Unfortunately, he was a few hours late and the promotion had already scrapped the event."


                                        good job dana, What i'm seeing here is no different than what happened to marquardt.

                                        Dana overacting and panicking leads to the fans being screwed.
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                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 19734

                                          #160
                                          when it's all said and done, dana's a fuckin weasel. you can't try to blame your fighters for not having a better backup plan and twitting shit like... "we've never ever had a fighter refuse to fight a guy... every day, crazy shit happens, here's a new crazy one for us." this weasel always got away with forcing his fighters to take fights to cover his ass. i'm glad this time he's not getting away with this bullshit.
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                                          • Crassus
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-08-12
                                            • 1538

                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                            canuck you are a good kid but damn, you are one stubborn mofo. mma fighters don't need to worry about marketing and sponsorship as long as they win.
                                            Jacob Volkmann and Antonio McKee disagree.
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by Crassus
                                              Jacob Volkmann and Antonio McKee disagree.
                                              i didn't know they were former ufc champs...
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                i didn't know they were former ufc chumps...
                                                Corrected it for you
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                                                • Wilfred
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-19-12
                                                  • 1908

                                                  #164
                                                  Are you kidding me that Fighters dont depend on sponsorship? Wow, it's a big way of getting money for the guys that aren't champions. Next time you are watching a fight look at the fighters shorts and the banner hanging before they fight. I bet a lot of them make more money off the sponsorships than they do for fighting. Wow, just wow.
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                                                  • hels
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                                                    • 04-12-09
                                                    • 8767

                                                    #165
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                                                    • xelance
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-25-10
                                                      • 1750

                                                      #166
                                                      To anyone that was planning on going: The same thing happened to me in 2009 with the Affliction card: Fedor vs Barnett. I got a call from the promoter (who I got tickets through) 4 days before the event and he told me the event was cancelled. I had to cancel my hotel reservations, and get it out of my mind that it wasnt going to happen because Josh Barnett tested positive for roids. Mind you..Fedor was my favorite fighter at the time and this was going to be my first time seeing him live, and it turned out to be my last chance. Also, Vitor Belfort vs Mousasi, Buentello vs Tim Sylvia, Jay Hieron vs Paul Daley, Sobral, Hominick, and Rothwell were also on the card and I wouldve gone just for the undercard, but Fedor was the draw of course so they decided to cancel it. The whole company stopped promoting fights after the cancellation of this event(UFC made them the official clothing sponsor of the UFC if they agreed to throw in the towel), thats how devastating it was to everyone. It was different circumstances for the cancellation, but yeah it sucks and I understand how people can be mad, but its out of our hands. I also wouldn't blame this on Jon Jones, Dana White's spin on this is incredible...he put together a pretty bad card and that is his fault that the co-main event/undercard was not up to par in the eyes of many, and that is why he cancelled it. He loves to make other people look like shit though, so that didn't surprise me when he called out Jones. Shame on you Dana for guilt tripping Jon Jones because Joe Silva couldn't get a good card together and everything hinged on the main event. People turn down fights all the damn time, don't act like this never happens..especially with short notice.
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                                                      • Thor4140
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                        • 22296

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by jacktheknife
                                                        I just noticed, Henry Martinez, one of his own teammates is out a fight with no replacement. Months of training for dick because Jones swallowed Jackson's quasi-zen gibberish like water.
                                                        Jones didn't cancel the card. Dana did.
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                                                        • xelance
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-25-10
                                                          • 1750

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          Jones didn't cancel the card. Dana did.
                                                          "Where we are at right now, this thing had to be cancelled" - the words of Dana White. You couldnt put a good card together, not Jon Jones or Greg Jackson's fault, so suck it up and blame yourself for once. Undercard fighters should not be blaming Jon Jones for this, they should be blaming Dana and demanding their money from him.
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                                                          • k13
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-16-10
                                                            • 18104

                                                            #169
                                                            Sound like a bunch of 13 year olds over this.

                                                            So another boring fight with a predictable result gets cancelled. BFD.
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                                                            • Thor4140
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                                                              • 02-09-08
                                                              • 22296

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                              Apparently Anderson Silva offered to step in
                                                              I find this incredibly hard to believe.
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                                                              • raydog
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                                                                • 11-07-07
                                                                • 6984

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                                Of course Sonnen has everything to gain he knows he would of lost but can't deny the fact it would of gotten better PPV #s than fukkin Jones vs Belfort Wow Raydog come on now. <--- refer to older post by Ray
                                                                never once did i even mention vitor...match wasnt on the table when i was talking about ppv#s.. it was machida i was talking about...yes, a ppv with sonnen would easily bring better #s than this garbage ufc has lined up now...horrible
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                                                                • CanuckG
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-23-10
                                                                  • 21978

                                                                  #172
                                                                  I also said it would bring it better numbers than Jones vs Machida which Jon Jones himself would happen
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                                                                  • raydog
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                                                                    • 11-07-07
                                                                    • 6984

                                                                    #173
                                                                    do you really think jones would turn down a fight with a wrestler who is much much smaller than the one he was going to face? common...it was obviously about money ...but they couldnt come out and say it...i dunno...seems like easy money and an easy fight to me too... i understand injuries happen, but white and the ufc are its own worst enemies and have been for a while now...

                                                                    sucks you got hosed on this canucker...been to quite a few of them, they are a good time
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                                                                    • Crassus
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                                                                      • 01-08-12
                                                                      • 1538

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      i didn't know they were former ufc champs...
                                                                      So now it's champs don't need to worry about that sort of stuff as long as they win. Different story.
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                                                                      • Wilfred
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-19-12
                                                                        • 1908

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by raydog
                                                                        do you really think jones would turn down a fight with a wrestler who is much much smaller than the one he was going to face? common...it was obviously about money ...but they couldnt come out and say it...i dunno...seems like easy money and an easy fight to me too... i understand injuries happen, but white and the ufc are its own worst enemies and have been for a while now...

                                                                        sucks you got hosed on this canucker...been to quite a few of them, they are a good time

                                                                        You think it was about money for Jones? So, do you think he likes earning less?
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