Jon Jones out of UFC 151???

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  • hels
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-12-09
    • 8767

    #176
    Originally posted by Wilfred
    You think it was about money for Jones? So, do you think he likes earning less?
    He did say that he only fights for the money.
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    • raydog
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-07-07
      • 6984

      #177
      wilfred...he and his team had to say that he thought he would make less money...they cant have the world thinking he is "that guy" who will only fight if the price is right...but he IS that guy. all of this, obviously, is speculation on my part, but i like to think it is semi educated...now he has fukked himself and wont even make what he would against sonnen...

      not sure why shogun turned the fight down too before vitor was offered the fight ... machida and rua giving the division a black eye too...
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      • Wilfred
        SBR MVP
        • 08-19-12
        • 1908

        #178
        Sonnen Vs Jones would of had a lot of PPV buys. More than what Jones is going to get now.
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        • sideloaded
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-21-10
          • 7561

          #179
          Originally posted by raydog
          wilfred...he and his team had to say that he thought he would make less money...they cant have the world thinking he is "that guy" who will only fight if the price is right...but he IS that guy. all of this, obviously, is speculation on my part, but i like to think it is semi educated...now he has fukked himself and wont even make what he would against sonnen...

          not sure why shogun turned the fight down too before vitor was offered the fight ... machida and rua giving the division a black eye too...
          shogun had 4 round fight less than a month ago, the CSAC should have gave him a 90 day suspension
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          • hels
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-12-09
            • 8767

            #180
            Jones originally said he would "carry the cross" for the the cancellation of UFC 151.

            Here's what he tweeted today: Glad you guys are opening up your eyes Hendo injured 3+ weeks ago?!!? Who carries the blame now?"

            PR disaster.
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            • PunisherIND
              SBR MVP
              • 02-24-11
              • 4983

              #181
              Originally posted by hels
              Jones originally said he would "carry the cross" for the the cancellation of UFC 151.

              Here's what he tweeted today: Glad you guys are opening up your eyes Hendo injured 3+ weeks ago?!!? Who carries the blame now?"

              PR disaster.
              yes he could have handled the whole situation better, but i think the tweet was a reaction to the news that hendo was injured 3 weeks ago. i dont think that news was out there when he made the "carry the cross" statement.
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              • Beelzebubzy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-06-11
                • 6995

                #182
                I agree with Jones in teh sense that he should not be blamed completely for the event being cancelled. The UFC could have done an Ellenberger/Heiron Main event and taken the crap sales. Or made an impromptu main event like Anderson/Thiago silva or something like that

                But the competitor in me, would not have refused facing an out of shape 30 pounds lighter fighter.
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                • Kaladarus
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-11-09
                  • 1876

                  #183
                  It doesn't matter if Hendo was injured 3 years ago. Hendo being injured before those 8 days has nothing to do with anything. Hendo was going to take the fight up until that time, injured or not. He was looked at because the injury got worse and the doctors said there is no way he could fight. Fighters rarely fight at 100%. Up until he received the doctor confirmation he was under the impression that he was going to take the fight. If every fighter claimed they were injured for ever little small injury there would never be any fights.

                  Bottom line is Jones was in shape and ready to take a fight. He was offered an opponent he would have a significant size/strength/reach advantage. An opponent coming in from MW with a record of 27-12 and 8 day notice. He would have received a monster payday for an easy fight.

                  Blaming anyone except Jones for this doesn't make any sense. Jones is 100% responsible for breaking the card.
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                  • Beelzebubzy
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-06-11
                    • 6995

                    #184
                    If Jones/Sonnen was booked, we would all be complaining about the poor matchmaking
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                    • CanuckG
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-23-10
                      • 21978

                      #185
                      Dana White needs to make some better cards..
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                      • Kaladarus
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-11-09
                        • 1876

                        #186
                        Originally posted by CanuckG
                        Dana White needs to make some better cards..
                        Dana said that MMA cards would never be the same as boxing cards where the PPV buys are for 1 fight. He fell short big time on this one.

                        Main events have been cancelled before, but the cards have been good enough to sell and not be cancelled.
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                        • Vitooch
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-26-11
                          • 3470

                          #187
                          Could have salvaged card with Silva stepping up to LHW, or Belfort/Sonnen, Sonnen/Weidman, Weidman/Belfort.
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                          • Kaladarus
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-11-09
                            • 1876

                            #188
                            Jones wouldn't have took the Silva fight if he didn't even take the Sonnen fight. Even if Jones took the fight the UFC would never allow it on 8 days notice. 8 days notice for possibly the biggest fight in UFC history doesn't give them nearly enough time to promote. If either fighter loses it ruins their legacy and makes their division look weak. UFC is all about money and protecting their superstars is key.
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                            • PunisherIND
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-24-11
                              • 4983

                              #189
                              Originally posted by Kaladarus
                              Jones wouldn't have took the Silva fight if he didn't even take the Sonnen fight. Even if Jones took the fight the UFC would never allow it on 8 days notice. 8 days notice for possibly the biggest fight in UFC history doesn't give them nearly enough time to promote. If either fighter loses it ruins their legacy and makes their division look weak. UFC is all about money and protecting their superstars is key.
                              anderson didnt offer to fight jones on 8 days notice. he offered to fight a LHW besides jon jones, ie the forrest griffins and ryan baders.
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                              • hels
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-12-09
                                • 8767

                                #190
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #191
                                  woke up this morning pissed

                                  not only should we have a card today but we should be watching the greatest fighter ever
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #192
                                    Thanks to the old man and his knee I don't either "@aarondkuehn: Thanks to @jonnybones I have no plans tonight...."
                                    — Jon Bones Jones (@JonnyBones) September 1, 2012
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                                    • AdamB
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 07-10-12
                                      • 197

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      Thanks to the old man and his knee I don't either "@aarondkuehn: Thanks to @jonnybones I have no plans tonight...."
                                      — Jon Bones Jones (@JonnyBones) September 1, 2012
                                      Hahaha, what a oyster. I don't know that I've ever wanted a fighter to get knocked the **** out as much as Jones, maybe Bisping I guess.
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by AdamB
                                        Hahaha, what a oyster. I don't know that I've ever wanted a fighter to get knocked the **** out as much as Jones, maybe Bisping I guess.
                                        ha yeah, not that Im a fanboy or anything...really doesnt matter to me what there character is like, but it's a shame because he seemed like he was a cool dude a couple years ago. I remember staying up at uni one night and making my buddies stay up and watch the event when he fought Stephan Bonnar and tossed him around like a pillow! Even my buddies who had no interest in MMA were amazed by him...shame he's turned out to be a bit of a douche!
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                                        • Bigbill365
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-22-12
                                          • 4572

                                          #195
                                          Jon Bones can act like a dick head ducsh bag because no one can beat him sonnene would of got pounded the chump thats fighting him next will get pounded and machida would of got choked out again no one can beat him maybe just maybe silva could but i dought it
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                                          • sideloaded
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-21-10
                                            • 7561

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Bigbill365
                                            Jon Bones can act like a dick head ducsh bag because no one can beat him sonnene would of got pounded the chump thats fighting him next will get pounded and machida would of got choked out again no one can beat him maybe just maybe silva could but i dought it
                                            Daniel Cormier beats him right now.
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                                            • Bigbill365
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-22-12
                                              • 4572

                                              #197
                                              hahaha yeah a guy 5 11 is going to be able to touch bones
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                                              • sideloaded
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-21-10
                                                • 7561

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by Bigbill365
                                                hahaha yeah a guy 5 11 is going to be able to touch bones
                                                you're retarded




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                                                • Bigbill365
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-22-12
                                                  • 4572

                                                  #199
                                                  hahaha what one is he the fat white guy or fat black one ?i think bones will take both out in one round
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                                                  • sideloaded
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-21-10
                                                    • 7561

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by Bigbill365
                                                    hahaha what one is he the fat white guy or fat black one ?i think bones will take both out in one round
                                                    yeah just a fat black guy.

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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #201
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #202
                                                        Actually think Jones made a lot of good points in tht
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                                                        • brokenbrain
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 05-13-12
                                                          • 138

                                                          #203
                                                          Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how Uncle Dana replies
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                                                          • Rod_M
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-31-09
                                                            • 1282

                                                            #204
                                                            Yeah Jones at least sound 100% honest, let's see what Dana comes up with and what Sonnen runs his mouth with now as a comeback.
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                                                            • PunisherIND
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-24-11
                                                              • 4983

                                                              #205
                                                              So maybe it's not all Jon Jones' fault after all.

                                                              UFC President Dana White recently said Jones and trainer Greg Jackson "murdered" UFC 151 when they turned down a fight with replacement Chael Sonnen on nine days' notice.

                                                              White, though, since has admitted Jones' original opponent, injured Dan Henderson, deserves part of the blame.
                                                              "Dan Henderson knew two weeks before the fight," White said Tuesday on FUEL TV's "UFC Tonight." "Two weeks before he told me he was injured, he knew. Had he given me that two weeks like he should have, [UFC 151] might have happened. He's definitely to blame too."
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                                                              • Thor4140
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-09-08
                                                                • 22296

                                                                #206
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                                                                • CanuckG
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-23-10
                                                                  • 21978

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Anderson Silva vs Bonnar UFC 153
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