What am I missing? Democrat to win election -177

[Tully Mars 63]

I'm still trying to figure out if Obama is going to have Biden step aside and make Hillary his VP to set her up for a 2016 run. That would probably be the KO punch, given it would energize the women voters.

I could see Hillary vs. Christie in '16.

The day you see Hillary picked as Obama VP is the day Romney can begin the celebration.

[No coincidences]

Citizens United will give Romney a tremendous chance to win. This was a radical right wing supreme Court ruling that has fuked everyone in the middle class. The attack adds will be ten to 1 this coming year and we all know how well the Republicans like attack ads without a speck of facts behind them. These are usually made to fool the dumbest of our dumb which would basically be rightwing middle class voters. The way Romney made his fortune and somehow has supporters, just shows u how truly naive this country is. Throw in the fact that the Southern base would rather die than miss a vote, Obama is gonna be in trouble. If u don't think the Southern base is strong just look at American Idol each year. You never get the best singer but u get some Southern twist. Obama trying to work with these assholes the first three years while we all witness what these assholes did to BIll Clinton, has turned off Obama supporters. These voters will be hard to get off the couch and get them to vote again. Now a Southerner? They will die to vote even tho as usual it means to vote against their very own best interest time and time again.

Why would southerners vote for Romney though?

[No coincidences]

The day you see Hillary picked as Obama VP is the day Romney can begin the celebration.

Why would you say that?

[Thor4140]

I said better than Obama -- I didn't say good.

Well head to head Romney wanted GM to fold up the tent. Obama choose another way and it was saved and a lot of American families still have their good paying jobs. Of course now Romney is taken credit for GM's success lmfao. He even said it with a straight face.

[thetrinity]

I'm still trying to figure out if Obama is going to have Biden step aside and make Hillary his VP to set her up for a 2016 run. That would probably be the KO punch, given it would energize the women voters.

I could see Hillary vs. Christie in '16.

obama will pull the women vote anyways cuz his wife is popular. mitts wife, ann, also popular, not as much as michelle though. i expect mitt to do a little better in womens votes then mccain.

[Sam Odom]

Anything is possible in politics but dumping Joe other than for health reasons would look bad and many would point to Joe's gay statement the reason

[Tully Mars 63]

so you suggest taking obama in that week?

Me? I really think it's too close to call right now. I sure as heck wouldn't be laying cash on anyone now for November. I honestly think Romney's chances are less then Obama's but there's a shyte ton of time on the clock and some major events that will swing things.

Myself I'd stick to easy calls like the NBA and MBL.

[Thor4140]

Why would southerners vote for Romney though?

Because he is a Republican plain and simple. Plus he is white which helps a lot. Plus they will get their yearly dose of "Obama is gonna take ur guns away" nonsense they like to fall for over and over and over again.

[thetrinity]

N C , I believe RomneyCo will hit back and hit back harder than McCain - McCain was a pitiful national campaigner

sammy this might be out there a little bit, but is there any chance that the GOP was sandbagging in 08 knowing they couldnt win anyways? i thought that might be the case back then but not so much anymore. kinda like throwing ur worse pitcher out in a 10 run game in the 9th inning.

[Sam Odom]

i expect mitt to do a little better in womens votes then mccain.

because more women would rather fuk Mitt than McCain. <---- not joking

[Tully Mars 63]

Why would you say that?

It would reek of desperation.

[Thor4140]

free market capitalism

yeah right. Vulture capitalism is more like it. Did u miss that when Newt tried to explain it to you or do u have selective hearing?

[thetrinity]

Because he is a Republican plain and simple. Plus he is white which helps a lot. Plus they will get their yearly dose of "Obama is gonna take ur guns away" nonsense they like to fall for over and over and over again.

if he was a good christian man and not a mormon youd have a point.

[No coincidences]

Anything is possible in politics but dumping Joe other than for health reasons would look bad and many would point to Joe's gay statement the reason

Not if Obama gives full-fledged support to gay marriage.

[Sam Odom]

sammy this might be out there a little bit, but is there any chance that the GOP was sandbagging in 08 knowing they couldnt win anyways?

It was all McCain persevering his legacy and not going down as a perceived Racist - Nothing but softballs thrown to Obama from McCain

[Sam Odom]

Not if Obama gives full-fledged support to gay marriage.

He has in words but everything is pointing to how that has hurt him

[Thor4140]

if he was a good christian man and not a mormon youd have a point.

just because the guy is black is enuf to get 99 percent of them o the couch. There just isn't enuf clear thinking Southerners to offset the racist and wackos that flood their states.

[thetrinity]

because more women would rather fuk Mitt than McCain. <---- not joking

not sayin much

[Sam Odom]

Vulture capitalism is more like it.

79% success record

[No coincidences]

sammy this might be out there a little bit, but is there any chance that the GOP was sandbagging in 08 knowing they couldnt win anyways? i thought that might be the case back then but not so much anymore. kinda like throwing ur worse pitcher out in a 10 run game in the 9th inning.

I would see that if they had a viable candidate this time around.

They just can't find anyone. Couldn't in '08 and can't now. They're looking for someone who can appeal to both the far right and Independent/moderate Republicans. That person does not exist right now.

[thetrinity]

^

exactly no coin, thats why i said i believed that more in 08 then present day.

[wrongturn]

Just monitor Florida and Ohio polls. Mitt has to win both to have a shot, and this is assuming he wins back North Carolina, Indiana, and Virginia.

[thetrinity]

florida 1, ohio 2. personally dont think he got a real shot in my neighbors state, ohio.

[Sam Odom]

wrongturn - if Mitt wins Virginia Obama goes down

[Waterstpub87]

Well head to head Romney wanted GM to fold up the tent. Obama choose another way and it was saved and a lot of American families still have their good paying jobs. Of course now Romney is taken credit for GM's success lmfao. He even said it with a straight face.

Except that isn't what Romney said. Romney said they should go through a managed bankruptcy and reorganization, which is what that did. Enjoy the read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html

[Tully Mars 63]

Except that isn't what Romney said. Romney said they should go through a managed bankruptcy and reorganization, which is what that did. Enjoy the read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html

With a title like
"Let Detroit Go Bankrupt"

And an opening paragraph of-

"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."

And gems like...

"retiree benefits must be reduced" and "permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension"

This is probably already at least a script, if not a fully produced, 30 second ad to run non-stop in rust belt states about a week before the election.

[thetrinity]

wrongturn - if Mitt wins Virginia Obama goes down

curious why u think this? it doesnt even have many electoral votes.

[thetrinity]

may302012map

[hockey216]

There are a lot of people who disapprove of Obama's handing of the bank bailouts, takeover of the auto industry, stance on abortion, homosexual marriage, and Obamacare.

Many people will vote against him because of his stances on these issues.

Romney isn't great. But Obama's record is not impressive.

But then again most voters are idiots, have no knowledge of how the government works, and just believe everything they hear on liberal programs like MSNBC. If the media wasn't so damn liberal, Obama wouldn't stand a chance. But Obama's campaign has a lot of money and the media behind him.

[Thor4140]

With a title like
"Let Detroit Go Bankrupt"


And an opening paragraph of-

"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."

And gems like...

"retiree benefits must be reduced" and "permit the companies to shed excess labor, pension"

This is probably already at least a script, if not a fully produced, 30 second ad to run non-stop in rust belt states about a week before the election.

Yeah exactly that is the Romney way. Break the back of decent paying wages to get cheaper help so a select few can prosper. What a guy. I always love when they bust up the wages and then take a 20 million dollar bonus to celebrate. Disgraceful greed.

[Sam Odom]

...if Mitt wins Virginia Obama goes down

curious why u think this?

It would be a predictor

Vir is 'bluer' (moving more dem) each and every year , in '08 Obama won by 6.3% popular vote. If Romney can win it in '12 it would have to take 3.25% swing in a relative Blue state. Would not bode well for Obama nationwide

[thetrinity]

It would be a predictor

Vir is 'bluer' (moving more dem) each and every year , in '08 Obama won by 6.3% popular vote. If Romney can win it in '12 it would have to take 3.25% swing in a relative Blue state. Would not bode well for Obama nationwide

ah you may be right, based on that map i posted romney pretty much has to win every tossup and semitossup, still seems a lot to overturn.

[Waterstpub87]

Yeah exactly that is the Romney way. Break the back of decent paying wages to get cheaper help so a select few can prosper. What a guy. I always love when they bust up the wages and then take a 20 million dollar bonus to celebrate. Disgraceful greed.

Yea, its much better for the entire company to collapse because it can't compete. That way everyone can lose their jobs and pensions. Much better than stopping the bleeding by ceasing to over pay people whose labor doesn't justify their earnings. Or maybe all of the foreign car companies will go bankrupt. There is nothing to worry about though, because the auto-industry is so strong. We shouldn't change a thing. Just continue to weaken the ability of companies to restructure, and demagogue them every time they try to change anything. That will surely bring manufacturing back to America.

[GunShard]

Obama is more popular than Romney. The edge seems to favor Obama at the moment.

[andywend]

What can you bet there $100???

Mathy bets 10k and up..that place is not for him

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