Kobe is easily an all-time Top 5 player - LeBron and Wade won't ever crack Top 30.

[paranoyd androyd]

no hate for lebron here, but he won't make top 30 while kobe is top 5.

pretty simple.

still waiting to hear a single reason why lebron should be ranked higher than 30.

[dlunc3]

Funny how lebrons career is already too tarnished at age 27 lol. At age 27 Jordan had 0 championships (was his career also tarnished.at this point?) yet at age 27 lebrons career is alreadyaccounted for and over. You guys are too funny... You act like he's 35. Now, did I really just read that lebron is a selfish player but kobe is not? After reading that in post #1, this thread officially illegitimate nonsense and doesn't deserve to be addressed. Mods please shut it down. Thank you

[zsr]

There's dlunc. Surprised it took him so long.

Maybe he'll tell us how haslem is an 80 percent shooter again

[DemoralizdDreamr]

Damn onlooker, why getting personal? We just stating factual viewing information.

what are the facts, everyone is a lebron hater??

[ChalkyDog]

Chalky dumb-as-fuk is the same guy who said iguodala could be Kobe if he wanted

That is all.

Run along now chalky

Another reading comprehension fail. My comment was "if they wanted him to be KOBE and put up 40 shots per game, then he would do that" - paraphrased based on memory - general meaning of the quote remains intact.

Now, if you can't read - I apologize, literacy isn't for everyone.

[paranoyd androyd]

Funny how lebrons career is already too tarnished at age 27 lol. At age 27 Jordan had 0 championships (was his career also tarnished.at this point?) yet at age 27 lebrons career is alreadyaccounted for and over. You guys are too funny... You act like he's 35. Now, did I really just read that lebron is a selfish player but kobe is not? After reading that in post #1, this thread officially illegitimate nonsense and doesn't deserve to be addressed. Mods please shut it down. Thank you

selfish attitude - refers to himself in the third person, press conference to souf beach, etc.

nice to see you avoided all other points from post 1

[zsr]

selfish attitude - refers to himself in the third person, press conference to souf beach, etc.

nice to see you avoided all other points from post 1

Don't forget the Dallas series

[zsr]

Chalky run along pal.

[ChalkyDog]

As for the original post:

To those more inclined to read, instead of click the button:

"[OP], what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent [post] were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this [forum] is now dumber for having [read] it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[rfr3sh]

Just because he is extremely physically gifted doesn't make him great...look at Blake griffin

[Tree Rollins]

They aren't even in his league. But someone will seriously post a generic chart trying to show lebron is the most clutch player ever. A lot doesn't show up on generic stats. Like Lechoke passing the ball last night instead of shooting.

Since Lebron joined Miami he is 1 for 8 on shots to tie or take the lead in the last 24.

[King Mayan]

[antifoil]

he is having the best season of any player in modern basketball history.

[dlunc3]

selfish attitude - refers to himself in the third person, press conference to souf beach, etc.

nice to see you avoided all other points from post 1

I didnt avoid them... all other posts can be addressed by this:

"Funny how lebrons career is already too tarnished at age 27 lol. At age 27 Jordan had 0 championships (was his career also tarnished.at this point?) yet at age 27 lebrons career is alreadyaccounted for and over. You guys are too funny..."

There is no point in this thread... Its like comparing Jordan to Magic when Magic had 5 rings and Jordan had 0 at age 27. You obviously couldnt compare them.

When their careers are over, then fine... but right now kobe is at the end of his career and lebron is in his prime with a whole career still ahead of him.

Obviously as of right now kobe would go down better then Lebron. But it is unfair to even talk about it at this point.

[darkhat]

OBV the result of this game was gonna cause anti lebron or anti kobe threads. There was no stopping it lol.

[dlunc3]

OBV the result of this game was gonna cause anti lebron or anti kobe threads. There was no stopping it lol.

It shouldnt. Kobe won and played well. Lebron showed that he was by far the best player in the game. There should be no threads either way concerning the two.

[King Mayan]

Lebron showed that he was by far the best player in the game.

[zsr]

Kobe showed he was by far the best player on the court and it wasn't even close. Dominated wade on both sides of the ball.

Lebron was 4-13 with Metta on him.

[jsmithj88]

Are you joking? You don't think chalmers, wade, battier, bosh, and Anthony would be top 3? They still would be just like everyone else with 2 superstars. Look how good bosh is when either wade or bron is out.

ur kidding rite?
top 3 without their best player?

[dlunc3]

Guess you didnt watch? 25, 13, 7, 3, and 2 line.... This is all while fighting hard on the defensive end the whole game battling gasol and holding the 7 foot all star to 11 points. If you dont think the guy is the best player in the game, you dont know basketball.

[InTheDrink]

dlunc you really gotta stop using age as a measuring stick bro...lebron's career is 50% longer than jordan at age 27

do you realize jordan had three rings by the time he'd spent as many years as lebron's already spent in the league if you count this year?

i'm not disrespecing lebrons game at all...hes the most talented player in history...but your age argument is retarded

[onlooker]

Guess you didnt watch? 25, 13, 7, 3, and 2 line.... This is all while fighting hard on the defensive end the whole game battling gasol and holding the 7 foot all start to 11 points. If you dont think the guy is the best player in the game, you dont know basketball.

Don't forget the 3 steals. Miss read your line.

I guess just scoring the most points in a game makes you the better player.

[zsr]

Dlunc telling people they don't know basketball. How ironic. In the haslem thread he tried to convince everyone the 3 point line is 10 feet away from the rim.

[zsr]

Don't forget the 3 steals.

I guess just scoring the most points in a game makes you the better player.

Well, Metta dominated LBJ, had 4 steals, and scored 17 and 7 boards. If were going to go off total game we should say him.

[onlooker]

Lebron is the most overrated defender of all time. Jason Terry tore him to shreds in the finals

Well that maybe true, but Lebron did shut down your beloved Derrick Rose in the ECF last year.

I know that is why your bitter against LBJ, just admit it.

[dlunc3]

dlunc you really gotta stop using age as a measuring stick bro...lebron's career is 50% longer than jordan at age 27

do you realize jordan had three rings by the time he'd spent as many years as lebron's already spent in the league if you count this year?

i'm not disrespecing lebrons game at all...hes the most talented player in history...but your age argument is retarded

Why? jordan showed how much can be done post age 27. Why are we counting lebrons good as done at this age? its absurd

[onlooker]

Well, Metta dominated LBJ, had 4 steals, and scored 17 and 7 boards. If were going to go off total game we should say him.

How is that stat line better then a near triple double? With some steals and blocks sprinkled in.

Amazing how you guys just try to discredit Lebron at any chance you get.

[zsr]

Well that maybe true, but Lebron did shut down your beloved Derrick Rose in the ECF last year.

I know that is why your bitter against LBJ, just admit it.

I actually have disliked Lebron since the cavs/bulls series in the first round when he was running around taunting the whole time. But last year didn't help the cause haha. Rose has something for him this time around

[InTheDrink]

Why? jordan showed how much can be done post age 27. Why are we counting lebrons good as done at this age? its absurd

who said he's done? the only argument you have is what he's done...not what he will do because you don't know

jordan after 8 years - 2 championships
lebron after 8 years - 0 championships

that's a fact

and who the fuk knows why youd even compare the two...it's completely asinine

[zsr]

How is that stat line better then a near triple double? With some steals and blocks sprinkled in.

Amazing how you guys just try to discredit Lebron at any chance you get.

Because Metta held the best player in the league to 4-13. Lebron did his work when Metta was off the floor or when they switched.

Anyway, Kobe clearly had the best offensive/defensive performance, holding wade to 14 while picking apart Miami, I mean come on. Lebron only defended pau for a quarter.

[dlunc3]

How is that stat line better then a near triple double? With some steals and blocks sprinkled in.

Amazing how you guys just try to discredit Lebron at any chance you get.

dont forget about defending the 7 ft all star gasol the whole game and holding him to 11 points

[zsr]

ur kidding rite?
top 3 without their best player?

There second best player is a top 5 player in the league. There would be a drop off but it wouldn't be big, they would be behind the bulls and OKC.

[onlooker]

There second best player is a top 5 player in the league. There would be a drop off but it wouldn't be big, they would be behind the bulls and OKC.

That is depending on where Lebron was and the Spurs would probably be ahead of a Lebronless Heat.

[paranoyd androyd]

Why? jordan showed how much can be done post age 27. Why are we counting lebrons good as done at this age? its absurd

now trying to compare lebron to jordan? quite the leap there. jordan was far past the point lebron was at the same age. you have no credibility and are embarrassing yourself here.

jordan and kobe safely in top 5. lebron not in top 30. simple.

[jsmithj88]

There second best player is a top 5 player in the league. There would be a drop off but it wouldn't be big, they would be behind the bulls and OKC.

if they didnt have lebron, they wouldnt even have the 2nd best record in the east
wade has missed 10 games and bosh has missed 2
they would not beat the bulls in the playoffs w/o lebron
teams like the sixers, celtics, pacers, even the knicks would have a real chance to beat them as well