Kobe is easily an all-time Top 5 player - LeBron and Wade won't ever crack Top 30.

[paranoyd androyd]

Really simple as that, not sure why people even waste their time trying to compare LeBron or Wade to Kobe?

Here are the indisputable facts:

Kobe
#1 all-time competitor tied with Jordan: assassin mentality
top 3 all-time clutch player
top 3 all-time well-rounded player: offense + defense
team leader and leads by example with max effort
tough as nails, plays through all injuries

LeBron
not clutch
not a leader
primadonna
selfish
soft

Wade
two good years
not a leader, too quiet
energy level fades
lets injuries affect his effort level

[William Walters]

dlunc and his dumbass stats in 3 2 1.........

[ngates815]

Can't find a bad thing to say about Kobe...Can't find a good thing to say about Lebron...


The indisputable fact is that you love Kobe and hate Lebron.

That's about the only indisputable fact around here.

It is absolutely hilarious that you think Lebron won't be a top 30 all time player.

Both Kobe and Lebron are both Great players.

[darkhat]

They aren't even in his league. But someone will seriously post a generic chart trying to show lebron is the most clutch player ever. A lot doesn't show up on generic stats. Like Lechoke passing the ball last night instead of shooting.

[darkhat]

dlunc and his dumbass stats in 3 2 1.........

haha i was just saying that.

[vaas187]

you're a ******* idiot....indisputable facts? their all opinion based. i like all three players but you're plain dumb.

[Deuce]

Lebron will go down as one of tthe greatest of all times.

[darkhat]

They obv are all good players in their own right. Just Kobe has been proven to have heart and play fearless. He's proven to not run from big moments. I'll admit Wade has even done this before, and I respect him for that at least. I just don't think he's in Kobe's league.

[zsr]

dlunc and his dumbass stats in 3 2 1.........

He's such a troll. He only posts stats when they agree with his opinion. I just buried him in that haslem thread with stats, in typical dlunc fashion, he responded by ignoring the stats and saying stats dont matter.

Since the stats support his opinion here, He'll be here in 5 minutes with 10 pages of numbers. It's almost too unreal. He has to be somebodies troll account.

[zsr]

Lebron will probably end up 10-20.

Too much has happened already for him to be considered top 10 all time.

[onacloud]

LeBron is top 5 of all-time

LeBron is the GREATEST athlete to ever play in the NBA

[slimstevie]

Queen James and Wade will never acheive success at success at success.

Everyone who believed Bynum, Kobe and the Lakers wouldnt retaliate for the broken nose are clueless. Kobe retaliated on the court, thats what he does. The Lakers retaliated by playing for their teammate and leader.

[darkhat]

Lebron will probably end up 10-20.

Too much has happened already for him to be considered top 10 all time.

I agree.. He already tarnished his legacy too much. He would of been better off if he got caught killing dogs.

[darkhat]

LeBron is top 5 of all-time

LeBron is the GREATEST athlete to ever play in the NBA

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lol except when it's time to step up, as we saw again against the jazz.

[ChalkyDog]

There are some retarded threads on this forum. Every day - full retard everywhere on this forum. But this one literally makes a knuckle dragging mental midget with down syndrome believe he isn't the dumbest person on the planet.

LeBron won't crack the top 30? GTFO. I can't stand the son of a bitch, I would be fine if he never touches the hardwood ever again. But he is without a doubt, the most physically gifted and physically dominate athlete on the planet right now, and is easily one of the best players - to have ever touched the basketball.

LeBron will be up with Jordan and Kobe and Kareem when all is said and done.

Now go back to the kids table, and let the grown men try and win some money.

[ngates815]

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lol except when it's time to step up, as we saw again against the jazz.

Once again, people love to bring up last minute of games.

Would the Heat of been in the "last second shot" situation without Lebron playing that game?

[zsr]

Chalky dumb-as-fuk is the same guy who said iguodala could be Kobe if he wanted

That is all.

Run along now chalky

[zsr]

Once again, people love to bring up last minute of games.

Would the Heat of been in the "last second shot" situation without Lebron playing that game?

Of course they would of. They would still be a top 3 team like now without Lebron. They would be like the lakers with Kobe/pau both in there prime.

[darkhat]

LeBron will be up with Jordan and Kobe and Kareem when all is said and done.

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[slimstevie]

There are some retarded threads on this forum. Every day - full retard everywhere on this forum. But this one literally makes a knuckle dragging mental midget with down syndrome believe he isn't the dumbest person on the planet.

LeBron won't crack the top 30? GTFO. I can't stand the son of a bitch, I would be fine if he never touches the hardwood ever again. But he is without a doubt, the most physically gifted and physically dominate athlete on the planet right now, and is easily one of the best players - to have ever touched the basketball.

LeBron will be up with Jordan and Kobe and Kareem when all is said and done.

Now go back to the kids table, and let the grown men try and win some money.

i agree that the lebron wont be top 30 was a stupid thing to say but saying Lebron will be up there with Kobe, Jordan and Kareem is also a stupid thing to say. that will never happen

[Tomasaurus]

Kind of off topic but still on LeBron, how would you rank the top 5 Small Forwards of all time/ where would you rank LeBron in terms of the greatest SFs

[broadway6]

i'm a Lebron hater, but not a top 30 player? that's going a little to far

[adamo1018]

I agree.. He already tarnished his legacy too much. He would of been better off if he got caught killing dogs.

^ Ok you are God.

[jsmithj88]

Of course they would of. They would still be a top 3 team like now without Lebron. They would be like the lakers with Kobe/pau both in there prime.

no they wouldnt

[darkhat]

^ Ok you are God.

[paranoyd androyd]

really don't think top 30 is too far. not denying what an incredible athlete lebron is, but that's not the issue here. freakish athletic talent comes and goes all the time. talking about all-time top players as measured by their level of completeness.

lebron is not a winner, a leader, clutch, and runs from the pressure. these are all pretty simple indisputable facts.

kobe is a few classes above players like lebron and wade, there's actually no basis for comparison here.

[zsr]

no they wouldnt

Are you joking? You don't think chalmers, wade, battier, bosh, and Anthony would be top 3? They still would be just like everyone else with 2 superstars. Look how good bosh is when either wade or bron is out.

[Quake]

Everyone who believed Bynum, Kobe and the Lakers wouldnt retaliate for the broken nose are clueless. Kobe retaliated on the court, thats what he does. The Lakers retaliated by playing for their teammate and leader.

Very true.

[TwoWays]

I would trade Lebron for front row seats to a Bobcat game right now.

[DemoralizdDreamr]

No one is a more versatile defender than Lebron, ever.

[DemoralizdDreamr]

Also, this is the new worst thread of the year.

[TwoWays]

Lebron plays great defense because he knows if that keeps his team in the lead, he won't have to be un-clutch.

[zsr]

Lebron is the most overrated defender of all time. Jason Terry tore him to shreds in the finals

[onlooker]

You guys are really sad. Did Lebron bitch slap your mothers or something? The hate around here is just out of control.

[TwoWays]

Damn onlooker, why getting personal? We just stating factual viewing information.