Changes to the SBR PRO program for US users.

[playersonly69]

well either way, it isnt that big of a deal. We are talking about $200 here!!!! I mean you gamble on sports dont you?? I think that there will be sportsbooks options in the future.


They had to set the cutoff somewhere and I believe that even you would have to agree that the first of the year makes the most sense. John said that he will give you bonus points as well

[Mr. Teaser]

well either way, it isnt that big of a deal. We are talking about $200 here!!!! I mean you gamble on sports dont you?? I think that there will be sportsbooks options in the future.


They had to set the cutoff somewhere and I believe that even you would have to agree that the first of the year makes the most sense. John said that he will give you bonus points as well

No they did not have to set a cut off. Extend everyone a year...that's not a cutoff. and yes I gamble on sports. That's why I offered to let those who really gamble on sports get the extension and those who are just bilking SBR can shove it up their ass.

[MoneyLineDawg]

well either way, it isnt that big of a deal. We are talking about $200 here!!!! I mean you gamble on sports dont you?? I think that there will be sportsbooks options in the future.


They had to set the cutoff somewhere and I believe that even you would have to agree that the first of the year makes the most sense. John said that he will give you bonus points as well

No the only thing that makes sense to me is extending all or none......why the hell should I have to renew before you now and I just became pro 2 months ago?

Its not about the $200 thing, it's just an unknown industry these days

The only thing you're right about is that it's not really a big deal, ok I agree with ya there

[mjag21]

John, with all due respect, this is not a fair solution at all. I played at sportsbooks only because they were recommended to me by this site. I just renewed my pro status on Feb. 19th. I am definitely getting screwed. If you wanted to give points to the users that signed up in Jan or Feb (which will still not be fair, as we should be re-uped just like everyone else was) you should give us the points that will equal the 200 that we put into the sportsbook. I notice that you have $50 gift cards in the store for 1168. Based on this number if we deposed the $200, we should get 4572 points!! While giving us something is a nice gester, and while I only speak for myself, receiving 100 points is a slap in the face, while everyone else gets a free year of pro status. Extending everyone 1 year is the fairest solution there is. We should not be discriminated against because of when we extended our pro status. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response!

Trivia will return soon.

As far as Jan & Feb guys go, we will give every poster worldwide that renews in either Jan or Feb an extra 100 SBR points and 100 SBR casino points in addition to whatever else is offered for renewal(if any) at the time. This will not be automated so be sure to remind us.

[Bill Dozer]

John, with all due respect, this is not a fair solution at all. I played at sportsbooks only because they were recommended to me by this site. I just renewed my pro status on Feb. 19th. I am definitely getting screwed. If you wanted to give points to the users that signed up in Jan or Feb (which will still not be fair, as we should be re-uped just like everyone else was) you should give us the points that will equal the 200 that we put into the sportsbook. I notice that you have $50 gift cards in the store for 1168. Based on this number if we deposed the $200, we should get 4572 points!! While giving us something is a nice gester, and while I only speak for myself, receiving 100 points is a slap in the face, while everyone else gets a free year of pro status. Extending everyone 1 year is the fairest solution there is. We should not be discriminated against because of when we extended our pro status. Thank you for your time and I look forward to your response!

There is nothing behind the argument that because someone else is getting something extra for free that I need to have it too. Sometimes birthdays and cutoffs mean people get luckier than others. If it was for the calendar yr, which has no relevance, instead of the date of the program, and you PRO'd Dec 30th, you would say the same thing. You were able to take part in something and from that date on, get all the freebie stuff promised. Nothing is being taken from you. The Pro program is worth about $450. If you donated $200, to Doctors without Borders you are coming out well ahead. No one owes you because you lost a $200 bet, no more than if you won a $2000 parlay.

[Sportsbetting123]

It is a shame to see US players being shut out of some books and have limited/uncertain options. As usual, everything is this country is going backwards.

[tblues2005]

I agree mjag and I think it should be extended for those also. I am kind of shocked to see that this isn't going to happen either for them. That is a long ways off from now so it may change by then. Who knows.

[convick]

There is nothing behind the argument that because someone else is getting something extra for free that I need to have it too. Sometimes birthdays and cutoffs mean people get luckier than others. If is was for the calendar yr, which has no relevance, instead of the date of the program, and you PRO'd Dec 30th, you would say the same thing. You were able to take part in something and from that date on, get all the freebie stuff promised. Nothing is being taken from you. The Pro program is worth about $450. If you donated $200, to Doctors without Borders you are coming out well ahead. No one owes you because you lost a $200 bet no more than if you won a $2000 parlay.

No one should get an extension then. That is complete bull.

[mjag21]

Bill,

With all due respect, I vehemently oppose your position. At the risk of sounding redundant, as many other people here said, if you became a pro on December 31, 2011 you would not have to renew until December 31, 2013. I renewed on Feb. 13, 2012, so now I have to renew on Feb 13, 2013. That person's $200 investment is worth 2 years, while my $200 investment is only worth one. The point is not that someone owes us anything. No one here was owed anything. SBR did a very nice gesture for the majority of the people who renewed their pro status. However they are leaving out a minority of people who did the exact same thing, albeit during months that SBR deems unworthy. The point of your argument therefore becomes null and void. I am not saying SBR owes us anything. Nothing was taken from anyone who is Pro status. I am happy for the people who received an extra year of Pro Status.I am only speaking for myself, who ends up getting screwed. I don't understand why you will argue against this anyway. By SBR giving us an extra year, it would have no effect on you whatsoever. If everyone gets an extra year, then SBR shows they value everyone's Pro membership the same, regardless of when you renewed. I look forward to hearing John's response.

There is nothing behind the argument that because someone else is getting something extra for free that I need to have it too. Sometimes birthdays and cutoffs mean people get luckier than others. If is was for the calendar yr, which has no relevance, instead of the date of the program, and you PRO'd Dec 30th, you would say the same thing. You were able to take part in something and from that date on, get all the freebie stuff promised. Nothing is being taken from you. The Pro program is worth about $450. If you donated $200, to Doctors without Borders you are coming out well ahead. No one owes you because you lost a $200 bet no more than if you won a $2000 parlay.

[Mr. Teaser]

There is nothing behind the argument that because someone else is getting something extra for free that I need to have it too. Sometimes birthdays and cutoffs mean people get luckier than others. If is was for the calendar yr, which has no relevance, instead of the date of the program, and you PRO'd Dec 30th, you would say the same thing. You were able to take part in something and from that date on, get all the freebie stuff promised. Nothing is being taken from you. The Pro program is worth about $450. If you donated $200, to Doctors without Borders you are coming out well ahead. No one owes you because you lost a $200 bet no more than if you won a $2000 parlay.

This is a poor response. Why don't you set up a program that gives everyone 100 points except if your birthday is on June 20th. Those people get nothing....Those people would have just been screwed.

[mr. leisure]

Bill,

With all due respect, I vehemently oppose your position. At the risk of sounding redundant, as many other people here said, if you became a pro on December 31, 2011 you would not have to renew until December 31, 2013. I renewed on Feb. 13, 2012, so now I have to renew on Feb 13, 2013. That person's $200 investment is worth 2 years, while my $200 investment is only worth one. The point is not that someone owes us anything. No one here was owed anything. SBR did a very nice gesture for the majority of the people who renewed their pro status. However they are leaving out a minority of people who did the exact same thing, albeit during months that SBR deems unworthy. The point of your argument therefore becomes null and void. I am not saying SBR owes us anything. Nothing was taken from anyone who is Pro status. I am happy for the people who received an extra year of Pro Status.I am only speaking for myself, who ends up getting screwed. I don't understand why you will argue against this anyway. By SBR giving us an extra year, it would have no effect on you whatsoever. If everyone gets an extra year, then SBR shows they value everyone's Pro membership the same, regardless of when you renewed. I look forward to hearing John's response.

Good post +1

[robmpink]

You can't please everyone and their points/pro program could be changed anytime at their discretion. That is just the way it is.

[tblues2005]

mjag you have plenty of time to bring this up later in the year and then you may prevail on this hopefully. We will have to wait and see what they have to offer now but I still think it will be worth it if we have more options here in the USA. I am not shocked by this at all though that this had to happen but I thought it would happen after the basketball season is done and over with though. I could have seen this happening maybe in April possibly.

[Bill Dozer]

This is a poor response. Why don't you set up a program that gives everyone 100 points except if your birthday is on June 20th. Those people get nothing....Those people would have just been screwed.

No. It's like if a tricker treater came to the house as the lady was closing off the lights and got hooked up. Then the kids who were there earlier came back and cried on the lawn while chewin on a snickers she gave em....its more like that I think.

[Mr. Teaser]

No. It's like if a tricker treater came to the house as the lady was closing off the lights and got hooked up. Then the kids who were there earlier came back and cried on the lawn while chewin on a snickers she gave em....its more like that I think.

No sir. It like tricker treaters coming to your house and you pick tricker treater #13 and #20 to get nothing and treat everyone else well. Do you technically owe them or anyone for that matter anything....no. Were you a real pos to 13 and 20....yes

Earlier? That would have held water if WE KNEW. This came out of nowhere.

Comparing kids who knowingly come late and miss out to posters who have missed out because of a policy change given without previous notice is a HORRENDOUS analogy.

Don't ever go into debating Bill.....

[MoneyLineDawg]

Bill Dozer.....In that example the house simply ran out of time and there was an excess to be given away......In SBR's case, there is no such reason (That we've been given) as to why the Jan-Feb guys aren't being given the same bonus......

[whyteowl]

Bill Dozer.....In that example the house simply ran out of time and there was an excess to be given away......In SBR's case, there is no such reason (That we've been given) as to why the Jan-Feb guys aren't being given the same bonus......

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[dlunc3]

tried to read through the thread... but too many posts...

Heres my question... should I become pro now before the 7th? or is it basically not worth it anymore?

[whyteowl]

tried to read through the thread... but too many posts...

Heres my question... should I become pro now before the 7th? or is it basically not worth it anymore?

I just made my buddy sign up with BetIslands today so he could become pro before the 7th. Who knows how they'll let us go pro after then? I figure just do it since you're going to bet anyway.

[Dan Kelly]

Thanks John - and everyone at SBR, for the extra year and for SBR. I really enjoy everything about the site. It's odd, because the people I have told about SBR, eventhough they are gamblers, they don't get it. I guess you just have to find your way here.
This is one of those times it is embarassing to be an American. I blame it on the Puritans - they were thrown out of England and settled here first and we just can't shake their warped mindset, even through all of those generations - it's the first mover disadvantage. I hope the day comes when we can cast off the chains of the weak, self-righteous party poopers...and sing "free at last, free at last, thank God almighty I can bet legally in the U.S. at last. Thanks again.

[luvtogamble]

hope we will be able to renew using our points is one of the options.

[MoneyLineDawg]

BTW, most of us that are voicing our views about the whole Jan-Feb thing aren't really whining at all....I think that SBR is awesome with the whole point system and the bashes they sponsor, etc.....

It just seems like this is a situation that should have a logical solution. Maybe there is a legitimate reason that we aren't aware of as to why they cannot extend us like they did with everyone else, and maybe they cannot give us that information......But it just seems like there is an easy solution that would satisfy everyone on the surface.....Maybe someone from SBR can help us out here

[DeluxeLiner]

Aghhh my SBR Pro membership ended Feb 18th...rats I want it for the Vegas trip but don't want to put any money toward betting services or the like.

Boooo.

Speaking of the Vegas bash I went in 2010 and it was awesome!

Shari or admin hook a brother up!

[secretstash]

Aghhh my SBR Pro membership ended Feb 18th...rats I want it for the Vegas trip but don't want to put any money toward betting services or the like.

Boooo.

Speaking of the Vegas bash I went in 2010 and it was awesome!

Shari or admin hook a brother up!

u still have 1 full day to get ur pro app in.. last day is march 7th bud

-stash

[Inkwell77]

Wait...
So is today the last day to donate $200 to doctors without borders or was it yesterday?

I'm thinking yesterday, but just want to make sure.

[Hankwins]

I was told us players can become pro by donating,line service and more options will be added soon. When i click Go pro absolutly nothing appears

[frostno98]

I'm planning to buy several DVDs and xbox games just to renew my membership through Amazon.

[Hankwins]

I'm planning to buy several DVDs and xbox games just to renew my membership through Amazon.

cool is this option available now or am or am i the only non pro that see's ZERO options to become pro upon vlicking "go pro"?

[Nittany Lion]

Bill,

With all due respect, I vehemently oppose your position. At the risk of sounding redundant, as many other people here said, if you became a pro on December 31, 2011 you would not have to renew until December 31, 2013. I renewed on Feb. 13, 2012, so now I have to renew on Feb 13, 2013. That person's $200 investment is worth 2 years, while my $200 investment is only worth one. The point is not that someone owes us anything. No one here was owed anything. SBR did a very nice gesture for the majority of the people who renewed their pro status. However they are leaving out a minority of people who did the exact same thing, albeit during months that SBR deems unworthy. The point of your argument therefore becomes null and void. I am not saying SBR owes us anything. Nothing was taken from anyone who is Pro status. I am happy for the people who received an extra year of Pro Status.I am only speaking for myself, who ends up getting screwed. I don't understand why you will argue against this anyway. By SBR giving us an extra year, it would have no effect on you whatsoever. If everyone gets an extra year, then SBR shows they value everyone's Pro membership the same, regardless of when you renewed. I look forward to hearing John's response.

Just saw this thread and read through it briefly. I became Pro Feb. 3rd 2011 and renewed a few months ago, so I'm part of the group that is getting screwed. Pretty ****** up SBR is not giving the extension to us Jan/Feb guys, I can't even bet the Superbowl next year now.

Anyways, my whole take is SBR is being way too paranoid. U.S. citizens can't even buy points to gamble, so why would a U.S. agency want to go after SBR? They are based in Costa Rica anyways, all they need to do is change from a .com to something else to be super safe. If SBR has no U.S. based presence, don't allow U.S. citizens to buy points or use any real cash to gamble on their site.....how could they get in trouble? Just seems silly to not allow U.S. people to renew Pro status through sports books anymore. Is SBR afraid they could get into trouble because it could be said they encourage U.S. citizens to gamble by allowing them to deposit into a sportsbook to gain Pro status? If so, then the main administrators at SBR are way too paranoid, grow a pair.

[LUCKYCHUCK]

this will just delay my decision to turn pro

[secretstash]

this will just delay my decision to turn pro

dude when u turn pro U WILL LOSE 3200 pts right now anyway.. every day u delay, is another day u lose pts.

20 of us have tried to tell u that the MAX u can transfer over as a non pro to pro is 5k pts TOTAL.. so u keep building pts just for fun or what?

congrats

-stash

[SBR Lou]

cool is this option available now or am or am i the only non pro that see's ZERO options to become pro upon vlicking "go pro"?

Sounds like a stale browser. We geo-targeted the page and it sounds like you're still cached in, but it's the first report we've heard.

Just hit CTRL F5 viewing the application and you should be all set.

[SBR_John]

We have added some new items to Become Pro for US guys. These products are only available for US users. The Pro program is still very cool for way less than $1 a day. Plus, its profitable.

As far as SBR being paranoid, overly so, I can just say if it was just me I'd open the floodgates and let everything go. But a lot of good people support their families working at SBR. We are anticipating more disruptive US action as they try to clear out competition to their new soon-to-be taxed and regulated online gaming.

[no1here]

alarming and confusing post

[CntryBoy]

Any chance we'll be able to GO PRO using points? I have 7K+ that I can't do anything with except buy hats...