Line was up 4.5 for a moment and drops back to 3.5
Air force plus + 3
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sportfanSBR Posting Legend
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DrStaleSBR Hall of Famer
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#37All the way back to 3 (-115) at bookmakerOriginally posted by Dark HorseIf with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
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#38Back to +3.5.
Some whale's trying to nail the middle at 4.Comment -
William WaltersSBR Hall of Famer
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#39Originally posted by RomanovI wouldn't worry about the move to 4.5 yet. This is the time of gameday when the public dumps money onto whatever looks good. Let it rise. It'll come back down some b4 gametime
My local (w/ website) just dropped to -3.5 -105.Comment -
DjstuckySBR MVP
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#40I pulled the trigger...it's now -145 at 5des...this one is cashing...good luck sir!!!Originally posted by 2daBanki got 113.5-105 at Bovada but they up to 122.5 now
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chopperockerSBR MVP
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#41my math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
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RomanovSBR MVP
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#42well you are wrong. no way is vegas off by 30%.Originally posted by chopperockermy math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
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rm18SBR Posting Legend
- 09-20-05
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#4370 SU and 72 ATS









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chopperockerSBR MVP
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#44they set the line where they believe gives them the greater opportunity of equal action. not necessarily where it should be. i thought we were trying to find lines that we believe have an over or undervalue side. i guess just gambling is what i should do?Originally posted by Romanovwell you are wrong. no way is vegas off by 30%.Comment -
RomanovSBR MVP
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#45you are partially right. think of the line as a market price, in which MOST pieces of information are priced into by bettors around the world. you, a lonely sbr subforum user cannot possibly have any more useful information than that which is already in the line. your model must be so simple or out of balance to get a number as high as 70 for a dog.Originally posted by chopperockerthey set the line where they believe gives them the greater opportunity of equal action. not necessarily where it should be. i thought we where trying to find lines that we believe have an over or undervalue side. i guess just gambling is what i should do?
getting equal action from sharps = the best guess as to the outcome of an event
edit: I only have an nhl model running right now, but if it EVER spit out a 30% difference, I would go into hibernation. there is a problem thereComment -
cadillac peteSBR MVP
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#46The market can't settle on a solid number for this game...Comment -
chopperockerSBR MVP
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#47ill start following you. are you really that good to respond that way?Originally posted by rm1870 SU and 72 ATS









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RomanovSBR MVP
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#48i am on airforce +3.5. With bodog leading the dog sides by .5 over all books, I am afraid I am on the square sideComment -
BGS 9.5SBR MVP
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#49Level of competition is not? Toledo played both tOSU and Boise State, and got totally jobbed against Syracuse. Rockets all the way here.Comment -
chopperockerSBR MVP
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#50sorry i contributed. i thought something more than simple opinions would be interesting.Originally posted by Romanovyou are partially right. think of the line as a market price, in which MOST pieces of information are priced into by bettors around the world. you, a lonely sbr subforum user cannot possibly have any more useful information than that which is already in the line. your model must be so simple or out of balance to get a number as high as 70 for a dog.
getting equal action from sharps = the best guess as to the outcome of an event
edit: I only have an nhl model running right now, but if it EVER spit out a 30% difference, I would go into hibernation. there is a problem there
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NeverBackDownSBR Wise Guy
- 11-30-11
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RomanovSBR MVP
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#52no need to apologize, I would just take a look under the hood of your modelOriginally posted by chopperockersorry i contributed. i thought something more than simple opinions would be interesting.
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chopperockerSBR MVP
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#53no offence intended, but overanalyzing leads to mediocrity teddy.Originally posted by Romanovno need to apologize, I would just take a look under the hood of your modelComment -
RomanovSBR MVP
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#54true, but a gutcheck and good intuition will tell you that airforce doesn't win this game 7/10 timesOriginally posted by chopperockerno offence intended, but overanalyzing leads to mediocrity teddy.Comment -
PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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ringemupSBR MVP
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#56U were impressed by OSU that early in the year, if toledo played OSU late in the yr they would have gotten swallowed. Boise wiped the floor with this team, where AF put up a damn good fight. To me there is nothing special about toledo i do not think they have enough of an edge to overcome what AF will bring to the field today.Originally posted by BGS 9.5Level of competition is not? Toledo played both tOSU and Boise State, and got totally jobbed against Syracuse. Rockets all the way here.Comment -
DeuceBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#57+3 +105Comment -
RomanovSBR MVP
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#58If this thing falls to 2.5...Comment -
JamesBrownSBR MVP
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#59I just hit the AF moneyline for a dime at +145. I capped them winning by 3. BOLComment -
rockhardfisterSBR MVP
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#60So your math model only increases AF chances by 2% with the points? Put the abicus away and just fade Lang.Originally posted by chopperockermy math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
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rm18SBR Posting Legend
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#61Well the thing is I'm not saying there has never been a 3 point dog with a 70% chance to win but you say they have a 72% chance to cover, if there cover % is 72 win is way less than 70% and if win is 70% then cover is way more than 72%.Originally posted by chopperockerill start following you. are you really that good to respond that way?
But in this particular game this is a bad matchup for Air Force 95% of teams would struggle to stop Toledo's offense and they get extra time to prepare for the option, some people afraid to bet Toledo because of the Russian mafia but don't think any fix in for this game.Comment -
JaugSBR MVP
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DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#63I like airforce +3.5.Comment -
No coincidencesSBR Aristocracy
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#64When a MAC team is involved, there's always a chance. That league is as crooked as they come.Originally posted by rm18some people afraid to bet Toledo because of the Russian mafia but don't think any fix in for this game.Comment -
gbaSBR Sharp
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#65airforce's defense looks like they have never seen a spread offense...if they dont score some points they are gonna get worked.Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-28-11
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#66Air Force looks like a steaming pileComment -
gbaSBR Sharp
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#67The DBS are giving 15 yard cushions...and they let the running back get 8 yards down the field everytime...Come on Jefferson put some points upComment -
gbaSBR Sharp
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#68Toledo is running 5 wide and airforce only drops 3 back...there gonna score everytime.Comment -
gbaSBR Sharp
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#69and there goes the ball gameComment -
teaserpleaserBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#70Danger zone for force they need a td here bad...., looks like bobbys on the wrong side but its still first qtrComment
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