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  • sportfan
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-22-09
    • 10111

    #36
    Line was up 4.5 for a moment and drops back to 3.5
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    • DrStale
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-07-08
      • 9692

      #37
      All the way back to 3 (-115) at bookmaker
      Originally posted by Dark Horse
      If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #38
        Back to +3.5.

        Some whale's trying to nail the middle at 4.
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        • William Walters
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-17-11
          • 6372

          #39
          Originally posted by Romanov
          I wouldn't worry about the move to 4.5 yet. This is the time of gameday when the public dumps money onto whatever looks good. Let it rise. It'll come back down some b4 gametime


          My local (w/ website) just dropped to -3.5 -105.
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          • Djstucky
            SBR MVP
            • 02-27-11
            • 2993

            #40
            Originally posted by 2daBank
            i got 113.5-105 at Bovada but they up to 122.5 now
            I pulled the trigger...it's now -145 at 5des...this one is cashing...good luck sir!!!
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            • chopperocker
              SBR MVP
              • 08-16-09
              • 1784

              #41
              my math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
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              • Romanov
                SBR MVP
                • 10-08-10
                • 4137

                #42
                Originally posted by chopperocker
                my math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
                well you are wrong. no way is vegas off by 30%.
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                • rm18
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-20-05
                  • 22291

                  #43
                  70 SU and 72 ATS
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                  • chopperocker
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-16-09
                    • 1784

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Romanov
                    well you are wrong. no way is vegas off by 30%.
                    they set the line where they believe gives them the greater opportunity of equal action. not necessarily where it should be. i thought we were trying to find lines that we believe have an over or undervalue side. i guess just gambling is what i should do?
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                    • Romanov
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-08-10
                      • 4137

                      #45
                      Originally posted by chopperocker
                      they set the line where they believe gives them the greater opportunity of equal action. not necessarily where it should be. i thought we where trying to find lines that we believe have an over or undervalue side. i guess just gambling is what i should do?
                      you are partially right. think of the line as a market price, in which MOST pieces of information are priced into by bettors around the world. you, a lonely sbr subforum user cannot possibly have any more useful information than that which is already in the line. your model must be so simple or out of balance to get a number as high as 70 for a dog.

                      getting equal action from sharps = the best guess as to the outcome of an event



                      edit: I only have an nhl model running right now, but if it EVER spit out a 30% difference, I would go into hibernation. there is a problem there
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                      • cadillac pete
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-15-06
                        • 1675

                        #46
                        The market can't settle on a solid number for this game...
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                        • chopperocker
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-16-09
                          • 1784

                          #47
                          Originally posted by rm18
                          70 SU and 72 ATS
                          ill start following you. are you really that good to respond that way?
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                          • Romanov
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-08-10
                            • 4137

                            #48
                            i am on airforce +3.5. With bodog leading the dog sides by .5 over all books, I am afraid I am on the square side
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                            • BGS 9.5
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-10-08
                              • 4628

                              #49
                              Level of competition is not? Toledo played both tOSU and Boise State, and got totally jobbed against Syracuse. Rockets all the way here.
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                              • chopperocker
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-16-09
                                • 1784

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Romanov
                                you are partially right. think of the line as a market price, in which MOST pieces of information are priced into by bettors around the world. you, a lonely sbr subforum user cannot possibly have any more useful information than that which is already in the line. your model must be so simple or out of balance to get a number as high as 70 for a dog.

                                getting equal action from sharps = the best guess as to the outcome of an event



                                edit: I only have an nhl model running right now, but if it EVER spit out a 30% difference, I would go into hibernation. there is a problem there
                                sorry i contributed. i thought something more than simple opinions would be interesting.
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                                • NeverBackDown
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-30-11
                                  • 543

                                  #51
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                                  • Romanov
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-08-10
                                    • 4137

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by chopperocker
                                    sorry i contributed. i thought something more than simple opinions would be interesting.
                                    no need to apologize, I would just take a look under the hood of your model
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                                    • chopperocker
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-16-09
                                      • 1784

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Romanov
                                      no need to apologize, I would just take a look under the hood of your model
                                      no offence intended, but overanalyzing leads to mediocrity teddy.
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                                      • Romanov
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-08-10
                                        • 4137

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by chopperocker
                                        no offence intended, but overanalyzing leads to mediocrity teddy.
                                        true, but a gutcheck and good intuition will tell you that airforce doesn't win this game 7/10 times
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                                        • PAULYPOKER
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-06-08
                                          • 36581

                                          #55
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                                          • ringemup
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-24-08
                                            • 2112

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                                            Level of competition is not? Toledo played both tOSU and Boise State, and got totally jobbed against Syracuse. Rockets all the way here.
                                            U were impressed by OSU that early in the year, if toledo played OSU late in the yr they would have gotten swallowed. Boise wiped the floor with this team, where AF put up a damn good fight. To me there is nothing special about toledo i do not think they have enough of an edge to overcome what AF will bring to the field today.
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                                            • Deuce
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 01-12-08
                                              • 29843

                                              #57
                                              +3 +105
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                                              • Romanov
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-08-10
                                                • 4137

                                                #58
                                                If this thing falls to 2.5...
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                                                • JamesBrown
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-07-08
                                                  • 3860

                                                  #59
                                                  I just hit the AF moneyline for a dime at +145. I capped them winning by 3. BOL
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                                                  • rockhardfister
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-27-08
                                                    • 1037

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by chopperocker
                                                    my math model has AF 70% SU and 72% ATS in this one. im locked in @ Air Force +3 -105
                                                    So your math model only increases AF chances by 2% with the points? Put the abicus away and just fade Lang.
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                                                    • rm18
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-20-05
                                                      • 22291

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by chopperocker
                                                      ill start following you. are you really that good to respond that way?
                                                      Well the thing is I'm not saying there has never been a 3 point dog with a 70% chance to win but you say they have a 72% chance to cover, if there cover % is 72 win is way less than 70% and if win is 70% then cover is way more than 72%.

                                                      But in this particular game this is a bad matchup for Air Force 95% of teams would struggle to stop Toledo's offense and they get extra time to prepare for the option, some people afraid to bet Toledo because of the Russian mafia but don't think any fix in for this game.
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                                                      • Jaug
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-11-09
                                                        • 3087

                                                        #62
                                                        Offering a special line on AF +3 http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...e-3-105-a.html
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                                                        • Demonata
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 07-12-11
                                                          • 25829

                                                          #63
                                                          I like airforce +3.5.
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                                                          • No coincidences
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-18-10
                                                            • 76300

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by rm18
                                                            some people afraid to bet Toledo because of the Russian mafia but don't think any fix in for this game.
                                                            When a MAC team is involved, there's always a chance. That league is as crooked as they come.
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                                                            • gba
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 06-06-10
                                                              • 417

                                                              #65
                                                              airforce's defense looks like they have never seen a spread offense...if they dont score some points they are gonna get worked.
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                                                              • TheCentaur
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-28-11
                                                                • 8108

                                                                #66
                                                                Air Force looks like a steaming pile
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                                                                • gba
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 06-06-10
                                                                  • 417

                                                                  #67
                                                                  The DBS are giving 15 yard cushions...and they let the running back get 8 yards down the field everytime...Come on Jefferson put some points up
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                                                                  • gba
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 06-06-10
                                                                    • 417

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Toledo is running 5 wide and airforce only drops 3 back...there gonna score everytime.
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                                                                    • gba
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 06-06-10
                                                                      • 417

                                                                      #69
                                                                      and there goes the ball game
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                                                                      • teaserpleaser
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                                                                        • 08-14-08
                                                                        • 26015

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Danger zone for force they need a td here bad...., looks like bobbys on the wrong side but its still first qtr
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