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  • bobbyfk
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-19-09
    • 15218

    #1
    Air force plus + 3
    I like Air Force plus 3 over Toledo today. Toledo's coach has already left the program for Illinois. Air Force senior QB Jefferson has started 43 straight games and is looking to end his carrier on a winning note. Toledo's QB has started two games. Stats are similar level of competition is not. Air Force has played TCU, Notre Dame, Boise St.and San Diego St. Toledo's big wins has come against New Hampshire, East Michigan, Central Michigan and Ball St. Military academies are well prepared and do well in bowl games. Throw in our nations capital Washington D.C. What am i missing? I think Air Force wins this game.

    Mr Big
  • tony_come
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-31-10
    • 21695

    #2
    I don't know bibby
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    • Deuce
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 01-12-08
      • 29843

      #3
      Goodluck, Mr. Big. I hope not to see this play on ugly luck.
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      • ApricotSinner32
        Restricted User
        • 11-28-10
        • 10648

        #4
        I have no lean on this game at this moment mr big. I wish you the best of luck. Take care.
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        • Domestic
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          • 02-10-09
          • 6323

          #5
          Bobby what do you think about the under here?
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          • chinoloco212
            SBR MVP
            • 03-24-11
            • 1095

            #6
            i was leaning toledo until i remember air force basically shut down keenums pass attack in the bowl game last year so im going AIR FORCE LARGE
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            • rm18
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-05
              • 22291

              #7
              Originally posted by chinoloco212
              i was leaning toledo until i remember air force basically shut down keenums pass attack in the bowl game last year so im going AIR FORCE LARGE
              Case Keenum was hurt last year, I'm sure they still have most of the guys from their defense from 2 years ago
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              • Sunde91
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-26-09
                • 8325

                #8
                how many thousands has your son lost, social life ruined all from gambling. and you brought him into it all didnt you

                shame on you mr big
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                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                  • 04-04-11
                  • 37449

                  #9
                  Bob, how's the new ride? How's Mr Big?
                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                  • BernardMadoff
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-12-09
                    • 6679

                    #10
                    Might take Air Force first quarter or first half.
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                    • bobbyfk
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-19-09
                      • 15218

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                      Bob, how's the new ride? How's Mr Big?
                      New ride is great, love that car. Mr. Big is doing good
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Bobby has been doing well as of late

                        Who is giving him plays??
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                        • thebestthereis
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-01-09
                          • 11459

                          #13
                          If you are not fading MAC teams you just should not be gambling, ever in your life. Air Force wins the game.
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                          • Sdotbold
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-24-09
                            • 1444

                            #14
                            Love this play bobby! Lets cash this shit!
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                            • no1here
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-23-09
                              • 5914

                              #15
                              I like Air Force alot buy consensus from college bowl contest shows not, 68-44 on Toledo.
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                              • ringemup
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-24-08
                                • 2112

                                #16
                                Here is my breakdown of this matchup. To me Toledo upon first glance looks very impressive statistically especially on offense where theyve been explosive. But when i look at toledos schedule there are some troubling trends. When they have played the better teams on their schedule theyve found ways to lose, this including syracuse, northern illinois, a trampling to boise st, and hardly squeaking by WMU while getting absolutely gashed in the process for 63 pts. They played ohio st close but remember the buckeyes were breaking in a new coach and QB. The numbers say their run D is OK at about 120 ypg but when looking at half the teams on their schedule I can throw that number out the window. AF on the other hand has played both TCU, Boise, and ND, while giving Boise a scare on the blue turf. Their strength is running the ball with their patented triple option offense, grinding the clock with methodical drives, led by their senior QB Jefferson who may be the best QB in AF history. They can also mix it up with the occasional pass to keep defenses honest and makes them tough to defend. On the other side u have an AF D that is poor against the run statistically and it looks like disaster vs a balanced toledo team that can run the ball too. This leads me to last yrs game in which AF pretty much stoned GT and their vaunted ground game when it was said AF was too small and undersized. With weeks of rest AF will use their quickness and disruptive front 7 to try and bottle up Toldeo, the same way they stopped GT on the ground. I also expect AF to game plan defensively with an eye on slowing down eric page who is the guy that makes their offense go, and they care more than capable with one of the top pass D in the nation at 160 ypg allowed and are very aggressive defending the passing lanes. That being said I see this layoff hurting toledos rythm offensively who peaked late, while AF is chomping at the bit to win another bowl game for the 3rd straight year. I expect AF to come out strong and rattle toledo early with big plays and toledo to eventually fail to match their intensity and AF rolls to victory behind jefferson. Edge AF +3, AF ML +150. GL
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                                • bartman
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 10-30-11
                                  • 63

                                  #17
                                  Good analysis, dont agree, but valid points.......!
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                                  • chinoloco212
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-24-11
                                    • 1095

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by rm18
                                    Case Keenum was hurt last year, I'm sure they still have most of the guys from their defense from 2 years ago

                                    they are still rank 18th in the country in pass d...ill take that anyday
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      I don't understand this line -- is Air Force really that bad that they are +4.5 to a passing MAC team on a windy day in a bowl game?

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                                      • Balco10
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-10
                                        • 5478

                                        #20
                                        I don't get the line either, but let it go higher and hope to get 5 or more. I was on board with AF even at pickem.
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                                        • PD77
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-11-09
                                          • 2380

                                          #21
                                          Where is AF +4.5?
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PD77
                                            Where is AF +4.5?
                                            Everywhere.
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                                            • DrStale
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 9692

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PD77
                                              Where is AF +4.5?
                                              Well, everywhere.
                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                              • Balco10
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                                                • 09-11-10
                                                • 5478

                                                #24
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                                                • dilaudid8
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-19-10
                                                  • 1866

                                                  #25
                                                  because there begging you to take A,F, the line might go higher
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                                                  • Roxxyfish
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-26-09
                                                    • 12066

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Djstucky
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-27-11
                                                      • 2993

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PD77
                                                      Where is AF +4.5?
                                                      A better question...where are they not +4.5???
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                                                      • rm18
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-20-05
                                                        • 22291

                                                        #28
                                                        Toledo is a lot better than their record, they should of won some close games and also they changed starting QB's and running backs late in the year and have gotten better. Right now Adonis Thomas might be the best running back in the country looks like Garrett Wolfe did a few years ago. Not sure exactly how they will matchup vs. Air Force's offense but option teams are usually less successful in bowls because the other team has more time to prepare.
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                                                        • PD77
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-11-09
                                                          • 2380

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DrStale
                                                          Well, everywhere.
                                                          Not everywhere. It just moved to -4 at heritage and was -3 118 an hour ago. I do see it at 4.5 at 5dimes.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rm18
                                                            Toledo is a lot better than their record, they should of won some close games and also they changed starting QB's and running backs late in the year and have gotten better. Right now Adonis Thomas might be the best running back in the country looks like Garrett Wolfe did a few years ago. Not sure exactly how they will matchup vs. Air Force's offense but option teams are usually less successful in bowls because the other team has more time to prepare.

                                                            i think Thomas ov rushing yards may be one of the better plays in this gm, he has been getting a lot of touches and af really struggles stopping the run giving up 5ypc..
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                                                            • ToPHeR
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-06-11
                                                              • 1326

                                                              #31
                                                              Lang is on Toledo -3....
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                                                              • Romanov
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-08-10
                                                                • 4137

                                                                #32
                                                                I wouldn't worry about the move to 4.5 yet. This is the time of gameday when the public dumps money onto whatever looks good. Let it rise. It'll come back down some b4 gametime
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                                                                • DrStale
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                                  • 9692

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PD77

                                                                  Not everywhere. It just moved to -4 at heritage and was -3 118 an hour ago. I do see it at 4.5 at 5dimes.
                                                                  5dimes, Pinnacle, Bodog, etc. at the time. Line is coming back down now though.
                                                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                  If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                                  • Djstucky
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-27-11
                                                                    • 2993

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                    i think Thomas ov rushing yards may be one of the better plays in this gm, he has been getting a lot of touches and af really struggles stopping the run giving up 5ypc..
                                                                    5dimes has it at over 110.5 -130...I like the play bbot or the juice...
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                                                                    • 2daBank
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                                      • 88966

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Djstucky
                                                                      5dimes has it at over 110.5 -130...I like the play bbot or the juice...

                                                                      i got 113.5-105 at Bovada but they up to 122.5 now
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