A question that is the key to winning at online casinos

[warriorfan707]

If we can answer this question, we can know how to win, and whether or not it is even possible to win.

The mother of all questions is this.

Lets take the blackjack game at 5dimes for example... is the singldeck table there on a continuous shuffle?

Meaning Lets say I log into the server at exactly 4 pm my time and get a blackjack. If I were to log in at 6 pm would I be dealt the same hands or would it be different?

If the same cards were scheduled to come out, then it is impossible to beat the online casinos long run.

If the cards you get dealt in fact depend on what time you log into the server, then it is possible to win.

There is no way to know.

So what are the thoughts on this? Are the cards on a scheduled rotation or are they dependent on our timing?

[senseionline]

online casino use RNG (what they claim) which mean each time u play should have different cards generate but still they can rigged if you can beat sbr's casino than try it

[mighty maron]

online casino use RNG (what they claim) which mean each time u play should have different cards generate but still they can rigged if you can beat sbr's casino than try it

This...if you cant beat sbr give it up

[chilidog]

You'll never find this information. I would assume that very few people know the seed for the RNG that any given casino uses. Read up on this site to see the various ways that it can be done. http://www.random.org/randomness/

[Emily_Haines]

I thought you had the sports betting thing all figured out?

[warriorfan707]

online casino use RNG (what they claim) which mean each time u play should have different cards generate but still they can rigged if you can beat sbr's casino than try it

I know that each time you play you are supposed to get different cards

My question is this

You log into the server at 9 pm or 9:15 would you get the same cards?

Noone knows the answer

[FourLengthsClear]

If we can answer this question, we can know how to win, and whether or not it is even possible to win.

The mother of all questions is this.

Lets take the blackjack game at 5dimes for example...a) is the singldeck table there on a continuous shuffle?

Meaning Lets say I log into the server at exactly 4 pm my time and get a blackjack. If I were to log in at 6 pm would I be dealt the same hands or would it be different?

If the same cards were scheduled to come out, then it is impossible to beat the online casinos long run.

If the cards you get dealt in fact depend on what time you log into the server, then it is possible to win.

There is no way to know.

So what are the thoughts on this? b) Are the cards on a scheduled rotation or are they dependent on our timing?

a) Cards are 'shuffled' after every hand.
b) There is not a 'schedule'. RNGs are based on algorithms and you/we would need to deconstruct/decrypt that in order to predict/know what cards are going to be dealt.

[warriorfan707]

a) Cards are 'shuffled' after every hand.
b) There is not a 'schedule'. RNGs are based on algorithms and you/we would need to deconstruct/decrypt that in order to predict/know what cards are going to be dealt.

According to this then, it should be possible to win at the online casinos.

According to this, its all about logging into the server at the right time.

[jjgold]

Warrior if it was that easy we would all log on at certain times

Do not play BJ at ALL

[Emily_Haines]

Warrior if it was that easy we would all log on at certain times

Do not play BJ at ALL

Yes, JJ is right.

Huge moneyline 2 and 3 team parlays is the Holy Grail!

[senseionline]

RNG change constantly you will get different cards each you play for example a slot machine RNG dont determine that jackpot will come on #99999999999 pull because it generate numbers all the time you must be at the right time to hit jackpot

[RyanLeafOfBets]

Blackjack is EVIL... EVIL I tell ya

[FourLengthsClear]

According to this then, it should be possible to win at the online casinos.

According to this, its all about logging into the server at the right time.

No. There is no repeating pattern in terms of the cards dealt.
RNG algorithms do a very good job (not perfect) of simulating a real life shuffle.

[warriorfan707]

No. There is no repeating pattern in terms of the cards dealt.
RNG algorithms do a very good job (not perfect) of simulating a real life shuffle.

What Im saying has nothing to do with a repeating pattern. Lets say you log in to play one hand.

You are saying if I log in at 6, the cards will be different than what I were to get at 7.

Therefore according to this its all about logging in at the right time.

Surely you see what Im saying.

There is a time you could log in for example and a blackjack is waiting. Obv we have no idea what time that would be....

[FourLengthsClear]

What Im saying has nothing to do with a repeating pattern. Lets say you log in to play one hand.

You are saying if I log in at 6, the cards will be different than what I were to get at 7.

Therefore according to this its all about logging in at the right time.

Surely you see what Im saying.

There is a time you could log in for example and a blackjack is waiting. Obv we have no idea what time that would be....

Sure but that is no different to real world casino.

[warriorfan707]

Sure but that is no different to real world casino.

Then its possible to beat the online casino in the long run.

It is unlikely but not IMPOSSIBLE.

You just gotta log in at the right times, play one hand or whatever etc

[chilidog]

What Im saying has nothing to do with a repeating pattern. Lets say you log in to play one hand.

You are saying if I log in at 6, the cards will be different than what I were to get at 7.

Therefore according to this its all about logging in at the right time.

Surely you see what Im saying.

There is a time you could log in for example and a blackjack is waiting. Obv we have no idea what time that would be....

No, because assuming that the programmers behind the software are good at their job, the RNG seed would constantly change. Using a system clock would be quite foolish of them to use that. It could literally be anything. Random.org states that he uses background noise frequency levels for his RNG.

[FourLengthsClear]

Then its possible to beat the online casino in the long run.

It is unlikely but not IMPOSSIBLE.

You just gotta log in at the right times, play one hand or whatever etc

The house has an edge (between 1% and 2% depending on the exact rules).
As with any -EV proposition, it is possible to win but as the number of trials/hands increases, results will revert to the mean so you can only win with extreme luck/variance.

Based on a house edge of 1.2%, the probability of being ahead after e.g. 100,000 hands is 0.007% (with level stakes).

[byronbb]

fyp

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Let me just save everyone some time...they are rigged...only degens play online casino games(no offense)

[Lock Of The Aeon]

I keep hearing people say online casinos are rigged, but I haven't seen any proof. It's easy to lose several hands in a row even with a fair deck of cards.

In any case, the odds are against you, and it's almost impossible to beat the house long term, no matter what strategy or system you use.

I would stay far away from online casinos, and stick with sports betting and poker, where you actually have a chance.

[vividjohn45]

u can beat some online casinos. depends on the management.

i won't tell u which ones but try a few out. $300 should tell u whether rigged or not. after 10 hands how many the casino won.

single deck is about a coin toss. basic strat. even on continue shuffle.

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then on a rtg casino i went up 75 on roulette but gave it back trying their stiffer slots.

i don't recommend rtg slots. on thier euro wheel. be careful of martingale style. u will have to use diff strat there proly.

rtg black jack seems rigged lets u win 1 out of 5 hands and rarely 2 in a row.

also i highly recommend u check how usa citizenis supposed to cash out. i won the 75 on interops (rtg casino)

and would of withdrawn but they charge 50 bux for a check usa. bullshit.

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and deposit on a few more trg casinos to test same slots

all succked.

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tonite on another site i hit a repeat 30 on euro and jumped up 18 bux sitting +13 for the night.

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i never go into sbr casino cuz its rot.

and will not renew my sbr pro becuz sbr has no value to me. the book is good. but u accumalte nickles here. which don'tmean sh.it.

also i play poker all the time. so my sportbetting suffers some. due to divison of time. so if u are good at online poker and knowthe right casino online. sportsbetting becomes lesser concern.

although i still watch for a kickass wager. to unload on.

so before u make that deposit andwin 100 bucks and want a withdrawal check to see how.

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[evo34]

The G in RNG stands for generator. I.e., the number is generated on demand. It's not like they look up the time of day in some Excel sheet and find that they deal 2-8-9-K-J at that certain time. Christ.

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[hutennis]

This!

It is simply amazing how confused and ignorant people can be!

[HotStreak]

What online blackjack RNG is good for, is generating a 14 15 or 16 for dealer after you already busted, and generating a 2,3,4,5 for your big double down... all the while, alternating generating the 10's between busting your 12 13 14's and making a 20 for the dealer.

[warriorfan707]

Online casinos are fukked.

[Westcoast0]

op isn't very bright huh?

[warriorfan707]

Funny thing is noone even knows what Im saying.

The question is this.

If you log into the server at 6, would the cards dealt to you be the same or different than if you logged in at 7?

[FourLengthsClear]

Funny thing is noone even knows what Im saying.

The question is this.

If you log into the server at 6, would the cards dealt to you be the same or different than if you logged in at 7?

Different. When you hit the "deal" button the server requests a deck from the RNG.

[warriorfan707]

Different. When you hit the "deal" button the server requests a deck from the RNG.

Then according to what you're saying its merely a matter of showing up at the right millisecond.

[chilidog]

Then according to what you're saying its merely a matter of showing up at the right millisecond.

No. It will always be different. It has nothing to do with when you play.

[warriorfan707]

Exactly. If it "will always be different"...

Then the cards you are dealt theoretically depend on the instant you enter the server.

[odog11]

Then according to what you're saying its merely a matter of showing up at the right millisecond.

Yes, if you could somehow manage to show up at the right time more often than not and play just one hand each time you would win, useless, but true. Also true of a real deck you decide to make a play on.

[chilidog]

Exactly. If it "will always be different"...

Then the cards you are dealt theoretically depend on the instant you enter the server.

Incorrect. They have nothing to do with when you play.