Most horrendous brutal crime that Obama ,U.S government and media won't cover.Awful!

[Panic]

Not to cut in, but if anybody ask', no pizza guy came to my house tonight. I've been on here the whole time. Mods, can you delete the posts where I say I am waiting on a pizza? And also the frontyard incident.

[MonkeyF0cker]

But as a neutral I see massive strides being made to eliminate racism and profiling etc, in fact it could be argued in some cases it's gone too far the 'other' way. Also, if an African American is running for President and is reported to be polling approx 40%, doesn't that show a massive vote by non African Americans for an African American. I think the point i'm trying to make is, how long will it be before people accept society in general have made numerous attempts to right the wrongs of previous generations and just how long do you plan to use civil rights and slavery as a stick to beat non African Americans that, for the most part, are not racist. The longer you call non-racists racist, the quicker you'll be right.

Only time will tell. I would assume when opportunity is equalized.

[WinTiMe$$$]

I defer to your obviously superior knowledge.

Well thank you. Obama's white mother would be pleased

[Panic]

Well thank you. Obama's white mother would be pleased

Mother, or grandmother?

[zentiense]

Sooooo John McCain has used this story to advance his platform? If not, should he? I don't understand the polemics of this thread.

If anything, it seems surprising that conservative media sources haven't picked up on this story and demonized more African Americans for performing "savage" acts of cruelty. If there is one thing the rich, white, elites love more than a nice shoe polishing, it's a good ol' fashion suthern' lynchin.

Seriously, what's the point of this post again?

[englishmike]

First of all Barrack Obama is the first person of color running for President. Why the white race dismisses his white heritage is beyond me and it speaks volumes

But my LAST point is this: The reason people like you get punched on the nose everynight in the bars across the nation is not because of what you say but the self-rightous, sarcastic, puke-inducing way in which you to choose to deliver it. Hows the nose?

[MonkeyF0cker]

Sorry dude. The student **** program didn't exist in the 18th century. What should whites have done according to you is sent the slave ships to Ivy League schools as they arrived to the port so they will be educated and given the same chance as whites. Slavery was acceptable 300 years ago and you should not blame us whites for what was acceptable in a society we didn't live into.

Yeah. This post is about as worthless as they come. Its about the risidual effects of slavery as I've stated numerous times. You can't undo mistakes made in the past but you can certainly attempt to rectify them.

[WinTiMe$$$]

Mother, or grandmother?

Both his mother and Grandmother was white......Knowledge is King!

[WinTiMe$$$]

But my LAST point is this: The reason people like you get punched on the nose everynight in the bars across the nation is not because of what you say but the self-rightous, sarcastic, puke-inducing way in which you to choose to deliver it. Hows the nose?

My nose is fine as I usually do most of the punching....
sorry if you don't like hearing the truth

[englishmike]

My nose is fine as I usually do most of the punching....
sorry if you don't like hearing the truth

i'm not interested, its boring, dont forget to post your British Open Golf tips on the other thread, I couldnt give a fuk about white, black, etc, nothing that you or I say will make the slightest bit of fukkin difference so by definition we're wasting our time.

[Panic]

Both his mother and Grandmother was white......Knowledge is King!

I should have known that. I feel so bad. That has just made my decision who to vote for so much easier. Thank you.

[WinTiMe$$$]

I should have known that. I feel so bad. That has just made my decision who to vote for so much easier. Thank you.

Don't feel bad. Ignorance is Bliss

Ignorance is the condition of being uninformed or uneducated, lacking knowledge or information.

[jtuck]

Don't feel bad. Ignorance is Bliss

Ignorance is the condition of being uninformed or uneducated, lacking knowledge or information.

I'm glad we had such a gracious liberal here to inform us old timey slave drivin rednecks what ignorant means.

[Panic]

Win, you're so special.

[WinTiMe$$$]

Win, you're so special.

Thats what my momma said....Boy your special
Jtuck lighten up im not that arogant as I sound. Im just
a fierce debater

[BrentCrude]

Anyone remember Matthew Shepherd and James Byrd???

OK,come on,this gruesome murder was every bit as bad as the James Byrd incident where he was dragged behind a pickup and murdered by two white guys.Only in this case with the white couple,more people were involved. Do you know that this Byrd murder was used in a presidential campaign ad campaign by the democrats to say that Bush was against instituting hate crime legislation!

Then you have the Matthew Shepherd case that drew world attention where the two white guys strung up the gay Shepherd in a massacre in Wyoming.HBO made a movie about it.

In both the above cases,to this day you will see Hillary and Billy weeping on tv along with Teddy Kennedy saying how evil white men are and how we need hate crime legislation.

Why no peep,peep from them on this case where the white couple was murdered in torture fashion by the gang of blacks???I guess the Clintons and Ted Kennedy are taking a powder on this incident or else they were vacationing on Cape Cod and were too busy to hear the news of this murder.

[SBR Lou]

OK,come on,this gruesome murder was every bit as bad as the James Byrd incident where he was dragged behind a pickup and murdered by two white guys.Only in this case with the white couple,more people were involved. Do you know that this Byrd murder was used in a presidential campaign ad campaign by the democrats to say that Bush was against instituting hate crime legislation!

Then you have the Matthew Shepherd case that drew world attention where the two white guys strung up the gay Shepherd in a massacre in Wyoming.HBO made a movie about it.

In both the above cases,to this day you will see Hillary and Billy weeping on tv along with Teddy Kennedy saying how evil white men are and how we need hate crime legislation.

Why no peep,peep from them on this case where the white couple was murdered in torture fashion by the gang of blacks???I guess the Clintons and Ted Kennedy are taking a powder on this incident or else they were vacationing on Cape Cod and were too busy to hear the news of this murder.

[pavyracer]

OK,come on,this gruesome murder was every bit as bad as the James Byrd incident where he was dragged behind a pickup and murdered by two white guys.Only in this case with the white couple,more people were involved. Do you know that this Byrd murder was used in a presidential campaign ad campaign by the democrats to say that Bush was against instituting hate crime legislation!

Then you have the Matthew Shepherd case that drew world attention where the two white guys strung up the gay Shepherd in a massacre in Wyoming.HBO made a movie about it.

In both the above cases,to this day you will see Hillary and Billy weeping on tv along with Teddy Kennedy saying how evil white men are and how we need hate crime legislation.

Why no peep,peep from them on this case where the white couple was murdered in torture fashion by the gang of blacks???I guess the Clintons and Ted Kennedy are taking a powder on this incident or else they were vacationing on Cape Cod and were too busy to hear the news of this murder.

You are a sick bastard. Why are you blaming HillBilly and Ted for the sick crimes of people? There are 40,000 murders every year in the US. Shouldn't you be mad at the murderers instead? You are full of it.

[swede96]

What brent and Crazyl said.

The point is this: It's a hate crime. Period. If every time a black person is murdered by a white person, it's considered a hate crime...then it should go both ways.

Honestly, you really think those poor people weren't targeted because they were well dressed white kids? Lets get real.

As for the poverty excuse: First off: That excuse is bullshit. Sorry, but it is. Life's not fair. Deal with it. Poverty may be an almost acceptable excuse had they stolen the car and their money and maybe roughed them up a little in the process. They TORTURED and MURDERED these people! They offenders here are animals. Black white or purple they are animals. I think each and every one of them should have gotten the death penalty. Not because of their color, but because they are animals...and when animals are defective, we put them down.

Personally, I wish color wasn't even a consideration when these kinds of crimes are committed....but if it's going to be an issue when black people are murdered, it should be when the same thing happens to white people. You all know damn well that if it were five white kids that killed two black kids in that manner, Jesse and Al would be asking for their heads on a stick. Racism goes both ways.

[MonkeyF0cker]

OK,come on,this gruesome murder was every bit as bad as the James Byrd incident where he was dragged behind a pickup and murdered by two white guys.Only in this case with the white couple,more people were involved. Do you know that this Byrd murder was used in a presidential campaign ad campaign by the democrats to say that Bush was against instituting hate crime legislation!

Then you have the Matthew Shepherd case that drew world attention where the two white guys strung up the gay Shepherd in a massacre in Wyoming.HBO made a movie about it.

In both the above cases,to this day you will see Hillary and Billy weeping on tv along with Teddy Kennedy saying how evil white men are and how we need hate crime legislation.

Why no peep,peep from them on this case where the white couple was murdered in torture fashion by the gang of blacks???I guess the Clintons and Ted Kennedy are taking a powder on this incident or else they were vacationing on Cape Cod and were too busy to hear the news of this murder.

There is a huge difference here, unless you can verify with certainty that this act was racially motivated. While its true that all three murders are equally grotesque and appalling, they are indeed different. James Byrd was dragged behind the pickup of two well-known white supremicists and Matthew Shepherd's killers saw their girlfriends testify that they had planned to rob a gay man. They were cut and dry crimes of hatred that were purely motivated by prejudice and could be proven so. Unless these black men have histories of white prejudice or there is any indication that they were purely motivated by racial prejudice to commit this heinous act, then it can not truly be considered a hate crime. Without that proof, it remains a brutal murder in that case and one for which I hope they get the maximum penalty. But just because a black killed a white or a white killed a black, by definition, is not enough to declare it a hate crime.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What brent and Crazyl said.

The point is this: It's a hate crime. Period. If every time a black person is murdered by a white person, it's considered a hate crime...then it should go both ways.

Honestly, you really think those poor people weren't targeted because they were well dressed white kids? Lets get real.

As for the poverty excuse: First off: That excuse is bullshit. Sorry, but it is. Life's not fair. Deal with it. Poverty may be an almost acceptable excuse had they stolen the car and their money and maybe roughed them up a little in the process. They TORTURED and MURDERED these people! They offenders here are animals. Black white or purple they are animals. I think each and every one of them should have gotten the death penalty. Not because of their color, but because they are animals...and when animals are defective, we put them down.

Personally, I wish color wasn't even a consideration when these kinds of crimes are committed....but if it's going to be an issue when black people are murdered, it should be when the same thing happens to white people. You all know damn well that if it were five white kids that killed two black kids in that manner, Jesse and Al would be asking for their heads on a stick. Racism goes both ways.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. Poverty was listed as a reason for the alarming percentage of the black population imprisoned, not as a justification for this act. The motivations behind this act, although they can be speculated, are unclear. Whether it was purely a sick and demented random killing, whether it was a robbery that became personally motivated, or whether it was indeed racially motivated, none of us can say with certainty. However, it takes more than suspicion and speculation to convict someone of a hate crime. If there were any indication of such, don't you think the prosecutors would pursue such a charge? Or is it your assumption that the D.A.'s office is full of "bleeding heart liberals" too?

[swede96]

You need to work on your reading comprehension. Poverty was listed as a reason for the alarming percentage of the black population imprisoned, not as a justification for this act.

OR I need to quit my job so I have time to read the whole thread. Listen, it's used as an excuse for many many things it should not be. Poverty is no excuse for breaking the law in any way.

The motivations behind this act, although they can be speculated, are unclear. Whether it was purely a sick and demented random killing, whether it was a robbery that became personally motivated, or whether it was indeed racially motivated, none of us can say with certainty.

And I don't think anyone looked into whether it was racially motivated. While the other examples Brent listed may be cut and dry hate crimes....I'm sure there are many more ut there that were called hate crimes when race/sexual orientation were not the motive. Regardless of motive, had the color been reversed, you know Jesse and Al would have been all over the media calling it a "modern day lynching" or something adsurd like that.

However, it takes more than suspicion and speculation to convict someone of a hate crime. If there were any indication of such, don't you think the prosecutors would pursue such a charge? Or is it your assumption that the D.A.'s office is full of "bleeding heart liberals" too?

You don't think the D.A.'s office is politically motivated? Say the D.A. is up for re-election...do you really think they are going to start a race war? Nope. Perhaps if the colors were reversed and there was a public outcry. Start broadcasting this as a hate crime and they would have had to deal with all the "Ohhhh, but they were poor and their mom's didn't hug them enough." bullshit.

[BrentCrude]

There is a huge difference here, unless you can verify with certainty that this act was racially motivated. While its true that all three murders are equally grotesque and appalling, they are indeed different. James Byrd was dragged behind the pickup of two well-known white supremicists and Matthew Shepherd's killers saw their girlfriends testify that they had planned to rob a gay man. They were cut and dry crimes of hatred that were purely motivated by prejudice and could be proven so. Unless these black men have histories of white prejudice or there is any indication that they were purely motivated by racial prejudice to commit this heinous act, then it can not truly be considered a hate crime. Without that proof, it remains a brutal murder in that case and one for which I hope they get the maximum penalty. But just because a black killed a white or a white killed a black, by definition, is not enough to declare it a hate crime.

Monkey,so how are we to determine what a thought crime is and what the intentions were of any of these murdering thugs from the ones who killed Shepherd,Byrd or this couple?These perps all are brain stems!!!!!How can you guess what they were thinking to determine what their intent was?????If you can do that,please tell me the correct bets to place tomorrow for the entire MLB schedule so I can place a $100 parlay and retire on the winnings.

What difference is it what someone's intent is as to why they killed someone randomly,the people were all brutally killed just the same.What's a cop to tell the loved one's?If it makes you feel better parents,the people that killed your kids actually liked them?Why not just tell the parents,I could have had a V8 or I did stay at a Holiday inn last night.Hate crime ''thought crime''legislation is absurd!!Why not just put everyone who does this crap in a moldy little cell and throw away the keys.

What we have in society is that some people are treated like bald eagle endangered species where you get the book thrown at you for killing one while other people are treated like nuisance bird starlings where it's looked upon favorably to get rid of them.Why not just treat everyone equally in life and in death?

Ted Kennedy was the hate crime legislation author and Ted can't even explain what he did as to how he killed a woman.The guy has been in a deep Cape Cod fog all his life.How the hell is he supposed to know the intent of what other people who killed someone is?Maybe Ted is in favor of the honor system for certain murderers because he was treated on that system when he killed a woman where they just took his word for it a day later after he sobered up.

[MonkeyF0cker]

OR I need to quit my job so I have time to read the whole thread. Listen, it's used as an excuse for many many things it should not be. Poverty is no excuse for breaking the law in any way.

Or perhaps you just need a shred of common sense to realize that although povert isn't justification for committing crimes, desperation often forces people into corners. Thus, the REASON for people in poverty committing a higher frequency of criminal acts. Nobody said it was right.

And I don't think anyone looked into whether it was racially motivated. While the other examples Brent listed may be cut and dry hate crimes....I'm sure there are many more ut there that were called hate crimes when race/sexual orientation were not the motive. Regardless of motive, had the color been reversed, you know Jesse and Al would have been all over the media calling it a "modern day lynching" or something adsurd like that.

If nobody looked into it, then why the outcry??? Are you saying that , in the past, someone else has possibly been accused of a crime they may not have committed (the hate crime aspect of this OBVIOUSLY) so we should do the same to these people? Ingenius.

You don't think the D.A.'s office is politically motivated? Say the D.A. is up for re-election...do you really think they are going to start a race war? Nope. Perhaps if the colors were reversed and there was a public outcry. Start broadcasting this as a hate crime and they would have had to deal with all the "Ohhhh, but they were poor and their mom's didn't hug them enough." bullshit.

Yeah. Everyone would have so much sympathy for these dirtbags. PLEASE.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Monkey,so how are we to determine what a thought crime is and what the intentions were of any of these murdering thugs from the ones who killed Shepherd,Byrd or this couple?These perps all are brain stems!!!!!How can you guess what they were thinking to determine what their intent was?????If you can do that,please tell me the correct bets to place tomorrow for the entire MLB schedule so I can place a $100 parlay and retire on the winnings.

What difference is it what someone's intent is as to why they killed someone randomly,the people were all brutally killed just the same.What's a cop to tell the loved one's?If it makes you feel better parents,the people that killed your kids actually liked them?Why not just tell the parents,I could have had a V8 or I did stay at a Holiday inn last night.Hate crime ''thought crime''legislation is absurd!!Why not just put everyone who does this crap in a moldy little cell and throw away the keys.

What we have in society is that some people are treated like bald eagle endangered species where you get the book thrown at you for killing one while other people are treated like nuisance bird starlings where it's looked upon favorably to get rid of them.Why not just treat everyone equally in life and in death?

Ted Kennedy was the hate crime legislation author and Ted can't even explain what he did as to how he killed a woman.The guy has been in a deep Cape Cod fog all his life.How the hell is he supposed to know the intent of what other people who killed someone is?Maybe Ted is in favor of the honor system for certain murderers because he was treated on that system when he killed a woman where they just took his word for it a day later after he sobered up.

That is exactly my point, Brent. You can not convict every interracial crime as a hate crime. The two cases you mentioned were clear cut examples of hate crimes, with testimony to support such a charge. I'm no big fan of the hate crime law personally. I think a murder is a murder is a murder and people should be punished accordingly. If there isn't a punishment severe enough to address the crime committed, then perhaps the penalties for those crimes should be increased. The reason I don't agree with calling this a hate crime is because it shouldn't be labeled as such without proof to ensure that neither white nor black perpetrators are unduly labeled as such when the criminals intent was not clearly that defined in the hate crime legislation. But personally, I'd have no problems if it were removed from the books entirely.

[swede96]

Or perhaps you just need a shred of common sense to realize that although povert isn't justification for committing crimes, desperation often forces people into corners. Thus, the REASON for people in poverty committing a higher frequency of criminal acts. Nobody said it was right.

Ahhh, insults. The go-to argument for those that can't justify their stance.

I have plently of common sense. The times I have been backing into a corner in my life, I have found a way out of it legally. It's not right. People need to be held accoutable for their actions. Period.

If nobody looked into it, then why the outcry??? Are you saying that , in the past, someone else has possibly been accused of a crime they may not have committed (the hate crime aspect of this OBVIOUSLY) so we should do the same to these people? Ingenius.

I'm saying that it should have been approached. It should have been investigated. With all of the racially driven stories in the media over the last few years, this one should have garnered more attention. Perhaps if it had, people wouldn't be arguing about it to this day. It's a blatent double standard. Colors reversed, Jesse and Al would have been ALL over this. Had a white "leader" spoken up, they would have been racist and people would have been crying and protesting the punishment of those people because they grew up poor, or had a drug problem or some other bullshit. There's no easy solution here. I certainly don't know how to fix this double standard, but I do know that something MUST be done.

Yeah. Everyone would have so much sympathy for these dirtbags. PLEASE.

What world do you live in? They're poor. They're momma didn't bring them up right. They're dad is in jail. They grew up in a rough neighborhood. They were abused as kids...I could go on and on. People have found sympathy for monsters of every color.

[swede96]

That is exactly my point, Brent. You can not convict every interracial crime as a hate crime. The two cases you mentioned were clear cut examples of hate crimes, with testimony to support such a charge. I'm no big fan of the hate crime law personally. I think a murder is a murder is a murder and people should be punished accordingly. If there isn't a punishment severe enough to address the crime committed, then perhaps the penalties for those crimes should be increased. The reason I don't agree with calling this a hate crime is because it shouldn't be labeled as such without proof to ensure that neither white nor black perpetrators are unduly labeled as such when the criminals intent was not clearly that defined in the hate crime legislation. But personally, I'd have no problems if it were removed from the books entirely.

I agree with you on the hate crime thing. I really do. But I also feel that the only way to get rid of racism is to treat all colors equally. And we all know that doesn't happen in this country. I highly doubt they even interview friends and families of the accused to determine whether or not it was a hate crime and THAT is what bothers me. There's no such thing as a "Black Supremesist"....but there are plenty of black people just as hateful of whites as the white supemesists are of them. No one thinks twice about that.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Ahhh, insults. The go-to argument for those that can't justify their stance.

I have plently of common sense. The times I have been backing into a corner in my life, I have found a way out of it legally. It's not right. People need to be held accoutable for their actions. Period.

I will say it once again because I'm apparently not stating it clearly enough. Nobody said it was right. Nobody said it was justified. Nobody said those guilty should not be punished. It was listed as a reason for higher percentages of certain races being incarcerated. Poverty breeds crime. It is a fact of life.

I'm saying that it should have been approached. It should have been investigated. With all of the racially driven stories in the media over the last few years, this one should have garnered more attention. Perhaps if it had, people wouldn't be arguing about it to this day. It's a blatent double standard. Colors reversed, Jesse and Al would have been ALL over this. Had a white "leader" spoken up, they would have been racist and people would have been crying and protesting the punishment of those people because they grew up poor, or had a drug problem or some other bullshit. There's no easy solution here. I certainly don't know how to fix this double standard, but I do know that something MUST be done.

How do you know it wasn't investigated? Why do you care what Jesse and Al do so much? The double standard is a result of trying to alleviate the wrongs of the past. You guys are the ones bringing up race in this issue. Perhaps when people stop looking at these crimes as having any relation to race then we can move on.

What world do you live in? They're poor. They're momma didn't bring them up right. They're dad is in jail. They grew up in a rough neighborhood. They were abused as kids...I could go on and on. People have found sympathy for monsters of every color.

So you think the D.A. didn't pursue hate crime charges because the public may have sympathy for a band of thugs that committed a heinous crime? That's absurd. If the D.A. Is concerned about that they should be disbarred and removed from office.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I agree with you on the hate crime thing. I really do. But I also feel that the only way to get rid of racism is to treat all colors equally. And we all know that doesn't happen in this country. I highly doubt they even interview friends and families of the accused to determine whether or not it was a hate crime and THAT is what bothers me. There's no such thing as a "Black Supremesist"....but there are plenty of black people just as hateful of whites as the white supemesists are of them. No one thinks twice about that.

Some people believe that some black hatred toward whites bears some justification due to the historical context of race relations (i.e. slavery and the resulting struggles) in this country, unfortunately. Meanwhile, white supremicists had no past transgressions perpetrated against them by the black race and are merely hateful. While neither is acceptable in my eyes, it won't help to continuously exacerbate these crimes by screaming from either side of the aisle when they do occur.

[swede96]

Some people believe that some black hatred toward whites bears some justification due to the historical context of race relations (i.e. slavery and the resulting struggles) in this country, unfortunately. Meanwhile, white supremicists had no past transgressions perpetrated against them by the black race and are merely hateful. While neither is acceptable in my eyes, it won't help to continuously exacerbate these crimes by screaming from either side of the aisle when they do occur.

I agree. But we have one side of the aisle screaming. I'm not saying two wrongs make a right, only that perhaps those screaming will see the detrimental effect it's having on our culture if they get screamed back at. Keeping quiet obviously isn't helping the situation.

Every week it's something new. The reason I mention Jesse and Al so much is that it just infuriates me that they cultivate racism while coming off as heros to their followers.

I think many white supremesist feel they have been wronged by the black race....either by losing jobs to them or dealing with more crime in predominantly black neighborhoods. I'm not saying it's right, but I think many white people are feeling wronged by all of the "equal oppotunity" laws being passed. I mean we could start a whole new thread just on that issue. Is it really fair for a college to accept a black kid that may not be as qualified over a white kid simply to fill a quota. I don't think so.

What it boils down to is that racism will be alive and well as long as we keep these hate crime laws and people like Jesse and Al are around. Since not fighting it doesn't seem to be working, maybe a taste of their own medicine will help. Maybe not. Who knows?

You know, for many, MANY years women weren't treated much better than slaves. Does that give us an excuse to hate all men? No. We should ALL look around at the times we're in and live in them. Holding on to the past doesn't help anyone.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I agree and nearly brought up the male/female inequities at one point in this thread in comparison but thought it would just lead the thread astray. I slant slightly liberal and I think Jesse and Al are the conservatives best friends. I say let them scream. With each passing issue, they look more and more ridiculous and lose increasing credibility with the mainstream public. People should get dismissive with them and when they finally do, they won't be getting any more airtime (ratings=airtime). Perhaps we are getting near to the point where equal opportunity quotas are losing effectiveness. I think perhaps a possible compromise (for educational quotas at least) should be one based on household income rather than race to create opportunity for those who are disadvantaged simply by the poor state of our urban public school systems. That's a completely separate thread, however. Heh.

[BrentCrude]

How can any man decipher if someone else committed a hate crime when a man himself like Brett Favre can't even decide if he committed a retirement?

[swede96]

Huh...interesting...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_re_us/woman_tortured;_ylt=AhopSP.ICWm7ajpoFYbibONbIwgF

W.Va. man pleads guilty in torture of woman

LOGAN, W.Va. - Another defendant has pleaded guilty to charges stemming from the suspected torture of a young woman held captive in West Virginia last summer.

Bobby Brewster, 25, pleaded guilty in Logan County Circuit Court on Tuesday to second-degree sexual assault, malicious assault and conspiracy to commit kidnapping or holding hostage, The Charleston Gazette reported. He was sentenced to at least 13 and as many as 40 years in prison, the newspaper said.

A call to Logan County Assistant Prosecutor Robert Ilderton was not immediately returned Wednesday night and his phone rang unanswered Thursday morning.

Brewster was arrested in September along with five others. A seventh person was charged later.

Authorities say Charleston resident Megan Williams was held for days in a trailer where she was forced to eat animal feces, sexually assaulted and stabbed. She was rescued Sept. 8 after an anonymous caller alerted authorities.

All the other defendants have pleaded guilty to various charges except Danny Combs, whose trial is scheduled to begin later this summer.

Because Williams is black and her assailants white, prosecutors were pressured to charge the defendants with hate crimes, but only one faced such a charge.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of sexual assault, but Williams and her mother, Carmen, agreed to release her name. Carmen Williams has said she wanted people to know what her daughter, then 20, endured.

Well, at least they invesigated instead of just folding under the pressure. My point in the other case was it doesn't even seem they pressured the prosecuter in the other case.

[Cappy]

That's a rumor blog, that seems to have more information than the big news companies are ever able to provide (that seems odd to me). I don't like big news companies, but it should also be pointed out that this is not news. News is societally changing, community information that needs to be dispersed, and important goings-on that people would not otherwise know about. This is disgusting and perverse horrid acts of torture, but not really news. It makes me sick, and I'm sad to hear about it, but effed up crap happens and I hope it's dealt with.