Ron Paul for President???

**Scorpion** · 01-11-12, 02:19 AM

Ron Paul’s 2002 Predictions All Come True

**ABEHONEST** · 01-11-12, 11:45 AM

The man is a genius, but who cares besides faithful supporters of his?

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-11-12, 12:34 PM

They all came true? US interest rates are at all time lows and who's using gold instead of paper money?

**teaserpleaser** · 01-11-12, 12:49 PM

Fail

**PhillyFlyers** · 01-11-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

They all came true? US interest rates are at all time lows and who's using gold instead of paper money?

Give it 6 more months.

**Scorpion** · 01-12-12, 03:15 AM

The race is becoming a two-man race between establishment

candidate Mitt Romney and Ron Paul, a true conservative.

**Scorpion** · 01-12-12, 04:04 AM

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-12-12, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by Scorpion

The race is becoming a two-man race between establishment

candidate Mitt Romney and Ron Paul, a true conservative.

Paul really falls into the libertarian category more the "true conservative."

I had a link yesterday but can't find it now, it's early and my blood caffeine levels aren't quite at normal yet. But according to the Washington post Pauls gets about 2 times the number of any other candidate when it comes to twitter mentions. He get like 200k a week while the current POTUS get around 100K Other GOP's in the race are running around 60-70K and few, like Perry, get closer to 10K.

**ACoochy** · 01-12-12, 06:01 AM

Im really liking where RP is placed. What book has a prop for him to get the nomination?

**Bill Dozer** · 01-12-12, 04:08 PM

Supposedly he is getting 7 delegates from Iowa because the soft delegates can vote any way they want and say they aren't voting for Santorum anymore.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-12-12, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Supposedly he is getting 7 delegates from Iowa because the soft delegates can vote any way they want and say they aren't voting for Santorum anymore.

Did or do you have a source for your statement? Because no where in that video did the reporter state-

Supposedly he is getting 7 delegates from Iowa because the soft delegates can vote any way they want and say they aren't voting for Santorum anymore.

He stated different press outlets were reporting the delegate count in differing ways but never stated what you posted. He also never explained that Iowa had 3 roaming or delegates at large. He basically stated what I stated 20 posts back which is no one really knows how the Iowa delegates will be voting until the state convention in June. they're soft delegates meaning they can vote how ever they want. The GOP can also change who those delegates are... and we all know how much the GOP likes Paul.

No one is giving the same answer on this issue and this guy isn't 100% correct either. Part of it could be poor reporting but most likely it due the major rule changes this year by the GOP. They claim it's changed rules because states changed their dates. I think that's smoke and mirrors myself but I have no source for that thought.

**ABEHONEST** · 01-12-12, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Paul really falls into the libertarian category more the "true conservative." I had a link yesterday but can't find it now, it's early and my blood caffeine levels aren't quite at normal yet. But according to the Washington post Pauls gets about 2 times the number of any other candidate when it comes to twitter mentions. He get like 200k a week while the current POTUS get around 100K Other GOP's in the race are running around 60-70K and few, like Perry, get closer to 10K.

I hope those messages aren't form Dirty Sanchez?"

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-12-12, 06:57 PM

Well, there's a NYT piece floating around that states Paul's positive numbers on social media sites such as Facebook are at a minimum 2-1 to any other candidate. So his positive comments far out way his negative comments. The reverse is true for Perry and Santorium. For every good comment they receive there's two derogatory comments. Obama, Romney and, depending on the timing of the sampling, Newt all hold pretty steady at 50-50%.

So if we choose the POTUS by Facebook Paul would win in a landslide.

**ABEHONEST** · 01-12-12, 08:54 PM

Alright, I'll choose it then!

**Salmon Steak** · 01-12-12, 09:09 PM

The young people just won't vote for Romney. Every college campus will vote for Obama if Ron Paul doesn't win. That will kill the GOP and the dems will prob win again.

**ABEHONEST** · 01-12-12, 10:21 PM

What crazy people would want another demo to be prez ? Can't they wait at least 8 more years?

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-12-12, 11:15 PM

Don't you mean four years?

**Scorpion** · 01-13-12, 01:17 AM

America, Smell The God Damned Coffee!

**ABEHONEST** · 01-13-12, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Don't you mean four years?

Yes, that was a little ambiguous. I did clarify.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-13-12, 11:47 AM

Well the nations usually split about 50/50. About half the country in '04 couldn't believe anyone would want another 4 yrs of Bush Jr..

Paul seem to be causing a 40/40/20 (give or take split) I really don't see a path for him to win the Nom. The number of delegates he may... or may not have and the up coming states don't really look to add a lot to Mr. Paul's basket.

**hansg** · 01-13-12, 01:24 PM

Ron paul rocks, he will be president!

**Bill Dozer** · 01-13-12, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Did or do you have a source for your statement? Because no where in that video did the reporter state-

He stated different press outlets were reporting the delegate count in differing ways but never stated what you posted. He also never explained that Iowa had 3 roaming or delegates at large. He basically stated what I stated 20 posts back which is no one really knows how the Iowa delegates will be voting until the state convention in June. they're soft delegates meaning they can vote how ever they want. The GOP can also change who those delegates are... and we all know how much the GOP likes Paul.

No one is giving the same answer on this issue and this guy isn't 100% correct either. Part of it could be poor reporting but most likely it due the major rule changes this year by the GOP. They claim it's changed rules because states changed their dates. I think that's smoke and mirrors myself but I have no source for that thought.

In the end of the video he says the 7 delegates they talked to are planning to vote for Paul despite the soft delegate breakdown.

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Well the nations usually split about 50/50. About half the country in '04 couldn't believe anyone would want another 4 yrs of Bush Jr..

Paul seem to be causing a 40/40/20 (give or take split) I really don't see a path for him to win the Nom. The number of delegates he may... or may not have and the up coming states don't really look to add a lot to Mr. Paul's basket.

He has these next couple contests before Super Tuesday to appear viable and make hard hitting ads from new donor money. Then he needs Romney to pull a Cain/Gingrich. Their is enough ammo there. If youre betting, he's still a big dog but not as big as two weeks ago. Maybe sell the position before Super Tuesday.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-13-12, 01:31 PM

I really don't see that happening. I suppose it could just as I suppose I might win the lottery. Doubt either of those things happen, but they could.

Right now I would put it this way- Mr. Paul is currently applying for a job with a company that not only knows him well but can't stand him. The lengths the GOP power brokers will go to keep him from being the nominee I suspect have yet to be fully seen.

**ABEHONEST** · 01-13-12, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Well the nations usually split about 50/50. About half the country in '04 couldn't believe anyone would want another 4 yrs of Bush Jr.. Paul seem to be causing a 40/40/20 (give or take split) I really don't see a path for him to win the Nom. The number of delegates he may... or may not have and the up coming states don't really look to add a lot to Mr. Paul's basket.

It's apparently too early to determine where some of the delegate votes go? They said on NBC Thursday's World News [I think?], that the Iowa delegates are going to go with Ron Paul, come the time to vote.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-13-12, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

In the end of the video he says the 7 delegates they talked to are planning to vote for Paul despite the soft delegate breakdown.

Then mines cutting off the end because when I watch it (3 times now) it's not playing that part... but I'll take your word for it. I said all along no one knows for sure who gets what in Iowa until June. He could get those delegates and it's also possible the party votes to replace delegates who say they're voting Paul. Until the convention there's no way to know the outcome.

At any rate 7 in Iowa- no way he gets any of the 3 "at large delegates" in Iowa, they're controlled by the party. Plus 4(? can't remember) in NH, really isn't a great start. He's mot going to win much in SC, if any, and after his comments regarding Israel no way he get much out of Florida.

I do see a bright spot or possible path for Mr. Paul... Texas. It's got a ton of delegates and the last poll had Cain and Perry tied for the top spot. That was in Oct. a lot has changed since then. Romney's numbers in Texas are somewhere between "jack" and "jack shyte." Face it Mitt, Texas just doesn't like you. If the Oct. poll holds true and if Perry and Cain both become non-players, which looks pretty likely right now Paul, who was 3rd in that poll, could clean up in Texas big. A big win in Texas could pull him even with Romney. There's also good numbers starting to turn Paul's way in Nevada.

Maybe I should start buying lottery tickets after all. Though I still think anytime Paul starts to look like a real possibility the GOP power players will stop at nothing to stop him.

**Bill Dozer** · 01-13-12, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Then mines cutting off the end because when I watch it (3 times now) it's not playing that part... but I'll take your word for it. I said all along no one knows for sure who gets what in Iowa until June. He could get those delegates and it's also possible the party votes to replace delegates who say they're voting Paul. Until the convention there's no way to know the outcome.

At any rate 7 in Iowa- no way he gets any of the 3 "at large delegates" in Iowa, they're controlled by the party. Plus 4(? can't remember) in NH, really isn't a great start. He's mot going to win much in SC, if any, and after his comments regarding Israel no way he get much out of Florida.

I do see a bright spot or possible path for Mr. Paul... Texas. It's got a ton of delegates and the last poll had Cain and Perry tied for the top spot. That was in Oct. a lot has changed since then. Romney's numbers in Texas are somewhere between "jack" and "jack shyte." Face it Mitt, Texas just doesn't like you. If the Oct. poll holds true and if Perry and Cain both become non-players, which looks pretty likely right now Paul, who was 3rd in that poll, could clean up in Texas big. A big win in Texas could pull him even with Romney. There's also good numbers starting to turn Paul's way in Nevada.

Maybe I should start buying lottery tickets after all. Though I still think anytime Paul starts to look like a real possibility the GOP power players will stop at nothing to stop him.

Good assessment IMO. FLA is a lot cause... Retirees and winner take all. But, don't count out SC. That last poll was taken just after NH. There will be a lot of money spent in SC and voters don't figure out where candidates stand until day before as we've seen.

btw, 4:11 mark in that video.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-13-12, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by Bill Dozer

Good assessment IMO. FLA is a lot cause... Retirees and winner take all. But, don't count out SC. That last poll was taken just after NH. There will be a lot of money spent in SC and voters don't figure out where candidates stand until day before as we've seen.

btw, 4:11 mark in that video.

I've tried several times to find that mark and after clearing my cache all I get now is a pool store commercial. Again I'll take your word for it, that's not an issue. I don't think that reporter or anyone knows who going to end up with Iowa's delegates right now. My best guess is the state's party leaders are hard at work to make sure they get who they want. Anyone, including Romney, counting Iowa's delegates are being foolish.

Paul's starting to pick up more support but so is Newt and Newt's doing it at a faster rate. According to the latest poll I've seen Newts picking up about three voters for every one Paul's pick up. Santorium's all over the place and his number are not consistent enough to know if he's going up or down. With just the little I've read about the state I'd think Rick would be cleaning Newts clock in the northern counties... The north is full blown bible belt country. I can't understand why Newt picking up steam so much faster there then Rick.

None of these guys are taking votes away from Romney who's stuck around 30%. In a five way race 30% is plenty to win. But it's very interesting that when asked some 58% say they do not want Romney to be the nominee while only 34% want him. I think Romney is benefiting greatly by the number of candidates staying in the race. I've said it before and I'll say it again- I think there's a serious chance a few *cough, cough... Perry, cough, cough* are only staying because they've been asked and or promised things by GOP party leaders.

Whatever happens I think it's going to be interesting. Still don't think Paul's going to win the nomination but I can't see how they're going to stop him from winning states like Texas and Nevada. If he wins those he could steam roll states like Wyoming, Montana, Idaho.

Maybe he'll cut a deal for his son? VP Rand Paul?

**Scorpion** · 01-15-12, 12:47 AM

Ron Paul Veterans Rally Spartanburg, SC

**Scorpion** · 01-15-12, 01:56 AM

Ron Paul and Mitt Romney Both Speak To Same Dying Medical Marijuana Patient

**ABEHONEST** · 01-15-12, 02:05 AM

Good one for Paul!

Bad one for Romney!

**Scorpion** · 01-15-12, 10:53 AM

Still Voting For 'Mitt Romney'?

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-15-12, 10:27 PM

Bump, bump, bump! And another one bite the dust!

Huntsman's out and throwing his support... wait for it... behind Romney. I for one am shocked.

Every person that drops increases Paul's chances.

**ericthegangster** · 01-15-12, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Ice House

vote for ron paul he will legalize weed and gambling

No he won't. He'll just remove federal regulations surrounding it and the states will ban them instead.

**ABEHONEST** · 01-15-12, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by Tully Mars 63

Bump, bump, bump! And another one bite the dust! Huntsman's out and throwing his support... wait for it... behind Romney. I for one am shocked. Every person that drops increases Paul's chances.

Tell that to our political soothsayer, Biddaddy.

**Tully Mars 63** · 01-15-12, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by ericthegangster

No he won't. He'll just remove federal regulations surrounding it and the states will ban them instead.

I'm not sure about those two examples but many of things Mr. Paul is promising to do would need congressional approval. Something he would not get on most of his ideas.