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  • PhillyFlyers
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    • 09-27-11
    • 8245

    #526
    Originally posted by Glitch
    what is a likely scenario that would explain his inability to location documentation outlining the payroll, staff, etc. who does he Think was suppose to be writing for His newsletter at the time?

    dont know? me neither. then this is in combination with all the stuff from his son regarding how much of a mistake he thinks the civil rights act is in regards to discrimination rights of privately owned businesses.

    wouldn't you want to read these newsletters if you were him right when you find out there's something possibly unsavory in them.
    He didn't write the newsletter and he didn't read them. End of story. Are you really so blind to see that this is nothing more than a smear campaign by his political enemies because they don't want him to win? Look at the man's career in congress and the things he's fought for over the years. Look at his past comments about how minorities don't get treated fairly in the court system and that it's geared towards the rich. Look at his life. Ron Paul is the most non-racist human being there is. If you want to look at who's racist than look at rick santorum, michele bachmann, rick perry, and newt gingrich who all want to start a war with the entire muslim world because they hate them.
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    • PhillyFlyers
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      • 09-27-11
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      #527
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      • Dirty Sanchez
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        • 03-01-10
        • 16031

        #528
        Ron Paul followers are now getting the press focus...and his followers are pumping out the propaganda like Philly Flyer. This article says it plainly... "So why were Ron Paul or his ghostwriters engaged in racism and conspiracy theories? And why did Ron Paul allow this? The first answer is simply that marginal causes attract marginal people."

        "If Ron Paul is so libertarian that he won't even police people who use his name, if his movement is filled with incompetents and opportunists, then what kind of a president would he make? Would he even check in to see if his ideas are being implemented? Who would he appoint to Cabinet positions?"

        In the end..it's one of the reasons Paul won't be taken that seriously when the race really gets moving...Iowa or not

        The documents, which include harsh, prejudiced attacks against the black community, are evidence of a libertarian movement trying to find an audience.
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        • Scorpion
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          • 09-04-05
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          #529
          great ad

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          • cant call it
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            • 08-29-10
            • 8817

            #530
            Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
            Ron Paul followers are now getting the press focus...and his followers are pumping out the propaganda like Philly Flyer. This article says it plainly... "So why were Ron Paul or his ghostwriters engaged in racism and conspiracy theories? And why did Ron Paul allow this? The first answer is simply that marginal causes attract marginal people." "If Ron Paul is so libertarian that he won't even police people who use his name, if his movement is filled with incompetents and opportunists, then what kind of a president would he make? Would he even check in to see if his ideas are being implemented? Who would he appoint to Cabinet positions?" In the end..it's one of the reasons Paul won't be taken that seriously when the race really gets moving...Iowa or not http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...etters/250338/
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            • ABEHONEST
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              • 06-27-09
              • 9470

              #531
              So, Sanchez is not a believer! We cannot help that. And, Ron Paul, being a very honest man, would not hide words from his mouth or any followers of his, "if," he was fully aware of any of that supposed, un-American language spoken.
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              • Dirty Sanchez
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                • 03-01-10
                • 16031

                #532
                I'm an Independent and a undecided voter...and I don't like any of the Republican candidates at all. My concern with Paul is his "believers" are flooding forums like here with constant propaganda, and when someone questions it all of a sudden you're the enemy. Right now I don't "believe" anything Paul is selling, but who knows what is going to happen over the next 6 months
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                • muldoon
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                  • 01-04-10
                  • 4397

                  #533
                  Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                  He didn't write the newsletter and he didn't read them. .
                  He took credit for the newsletter in 1995
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                  • GoldenYAK
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                    • 08-30-10
                    • 707

                    #534
                    Originally posted by Salvan
                    Rick Perry and Mitt Romney have both attacked each other for what was written in their respective books. If either of those books had included a number of overtly racist statements, their candidacies would be over before they started.



                    The media seems to simply accept that Ron Paul has some oddities in his past and in his inner circle. They take his grandfatherly demeanor at face-value. In part this is because they believe he is not a serious candidate.



                    Winning the Iowa caucuses would change all that instantly. Undoubtedly the movement that Paul inspired has moved far beyond the race-baiting it engaged in two decades ago.


                    Some choice quotes:
                    • "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."
                    • "We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational."
                    • After the Los Angeles riots, one article in a newsletter claimed, "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
                    • One referred to Martin Luther King Jr. as "the world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours" and who "seduced underage girls and boys."
                    • Another referred to Barbara Jordan, a civil rights activist and congresswoman as "Barbara Morondon," the "archetypical half-educated victimologist."



                    OUCH!!! that's gunna hurt him.
                    It really doesn't matter who wrote this, it was in Ron Paul's news letter. It doesn't even matter if Ron Paul believe these things and is a racist. He used racism to push his radical anti government ideology. Institutionalized racism and political pandering are even worse.
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                    • PhillyFlyers
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                      #535
                      Originally posted by muldoon
                      He took credit for the newsletter in 1995
                      This is false. He took responsibility for them because they were written in his name. He never wrote them and he never read them.
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                      • GoldenYAK
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                        • 08-30-10
                        • 707

                        #536
                        Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                        This is false. He took responsibility for them because they were written in his name. He never wrote them and he never read them.


                        And you know this because Ron Paul said so? Get real.
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                        • GoldenYAK
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                          • 08-30-10
                          • 707

                          #537
                          Ron Paul storms out on CNN interview, admits he read the newsletters, and made money off the sale of his newsletters.

                          The Paultards were whining about Ron Paul not getting enough media coverage. Be careful what you wish for.
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                          • dante1
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                            • 10-31-05
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                            #538
                            Originally posted by GoldenYAK
                            Ron Paul storms out on CNN interview, admits he read the newsletters, and made money off the sale of his newsletters.

                            The Paultards were whining about Ron Paul not getting enough media coverage. Be careful what you wish for.

                            Exactly, all the other pretenders failed once they got some coverage. Mitt's money train is crucifying Newt, same thing will happen if RP happens to get close. And RP has so many strange ideas and ideas that the radical right are vehemently against. He will drop like a rock.
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                            • muldoon
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                              • 01-04-10
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                              #539
                              Originally posted by PhillyFlyers
                              This is false. He took responsibility for them because they were written in his name. He never wrote them and he never read them.
                              Quite the due diligence the guy does when something is produced in his name.
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                              • Dirty Sanchez
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                                • 03-01-10
                                • 16031

                                #540
                                Here's an article discussing the flap

                                Benji Sarlin: Ron Paul has insisted he knew nothing of a racist newsletter published under his name in the 80s and 90s. But he hasn't offered a convincing explanation – and that could hurt him in Iowa


                                "It's hard to square this with a candidate who claims that he somehow never bothered to read a newsletter published under his own name that generated as much as $1 million in revenues in just one single year. Even accepting that premise, how many politicians looking to start a publication would just happen to pick a half-dozen writers with blatant white supremacist and milita leanings to run the effort?"
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                                • wtf
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                                  • 08-22-08
                                  • 12983

                                  #541
                                  Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                  Here's an article discussing the flap

                                  Benji Sarlin: Ron Paul has insisted he knew nothing of a racist newsletter published under his name in the 80s and 90s. But he hasn't offered a convincing explanation – and that could hurt him in Iowa


                                  "It's hard to square this with a candidate who claims that he somehow never bothered to read a newsletter published under his own name that generated as much as $1 million in revenues in just one single year. Even accepting that premise, how many politicians looking to start a publication would just happen to pick a half-dozen writers with blatant white supremacist and milita leanings to run the effort?"
                                  oh please

                                  obammy sat for over a DECADE listening to that racist minister or whatever the fuk he is spew his hate and vile towards the white devil, then CLAIM he never heard any of it
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                                  • muldoon
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                                    • 01-04-10
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                                    #542
                                    Originally posted by wtf
                                    oh please

                                    obammy sat for over a DECADE listening to that racist minister or whatever the fuk he is spew his hate and vile towards the white devil, then CLAIM he never heard any of it
                                    Yeah, that's the same thing.

                                    And...if it is the same thing, does this mean it was OK for Obama to lie?
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                                    • PhillyFlyers
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                                      • 09-27-11
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                                      #543
                                      Here's the video of Paul walking off the CNN interview with Gloria Borger. He answered her time and again and she just kept repeating her nonsense.



                                      If you still think Ron Paul is a racist think about this...

                                      Would the Texas NAACP President, Nelson Linder, support a white racist?



                                      Wake up people! The establishment are scared to death of Ron Paul because he's a threat to their special interests. They have NOTHING on this man and are creating a smear campaign to distract from the issues!
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                                      • muldoon
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                                        • 01-04-10
                                        • 4397

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by PhillyFlyers

                                        Wake up people! The establishment are scared to death of Ron Paul because he's a threat to their special interests. They have NOTHING on this man and are creating a smear campaign to distract from the issues!
                                        These issues are not new and are not being "created"

                                        They came up in 2008 (there was an issue about him not returning money from a white supremacist or something) and the issue of his newsletter came up in the 90's. Paul is showing some traction in the polls, so he's getting the same treatment the other candidates got (and gave each other)

                                        As far as having "nothing" on him - there's something on everyone. Didn't this pro-business libertarian try to get an earmark of like 8 million to promote the marketing of shrimp?
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                                        • wtf
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-22-08
                                          • 12983

                                          #545
                                          keep posting philly !


                                          this is a real chance for americans to vote someone in that will shake things up
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                                          • PhillyFlyers
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                                            • 09-27-11
                                            • 8245

                                            #546
                                            Originally posted by muldoon
                                            These issues are not new and are not being "created"

                                            They came up in 2008 (there was an issue about him not returning money from a white supremacist or something) and the issue of his newsletter came up in the 90's. Paul is showing some traction in the polls, so he's getting the same treatment the other candidates got (and gave each other)

                                            As far as having "nothing" on him - there's something on everyone. Didn't this pro-business libertarian try to get an earmark of like 8 million to promote the marketing of shrimp?

                                            Yes, these "issues" are being created. The man is not a racist and they're trying to derail his campaign by accusing him of being one. That's creating an issue where there is none.
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                                            • Dirty Sanchez
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                                              • 03-01-10
                                              • 16031

                                              #547
                                              Well there's alot out there....so I guess all of your information is accurate and everyone else is making things up....kind of makes you look a little brain-washed and silly

                                              "In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men. “If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,” Dr. Paul said.

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                                              • ABEHONEST
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-27-09
                                                • 9470

                                                #548
                                                Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                                Well there's alot out there....so I guess all of your information is accurate and everyone else is making things up....kind of makes you look a little brain-washed and silly "In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men. “If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them,” Dr. Paul said. http://ronpaulexposed.wordpress.com/...inks-evidence/
                                                You know, Sanchez says he not voting for any republican, correct? Then why does this guy keep his constant bs ongoing? I mean, if you're not going to vote republican, and you slander all these candidates--mostly Ron Paul, I believe--then I would have to make an educated guess that you have a demo in mind next year. Is it Obama? I don't care it if's Houdini, but it is ridiculous to keep your bantering up over and over and expect us to believe you're an independent? You are too bitter to be anything but a solid demo, or at least regular demo voter. Much like a robot, I suspect? Am I right? Am I close?
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                                                • Scorpion
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                                                  • 09-04-05
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                                                  #549
                                                  Neil Cavuto defends against media smear and dismissal of Ron Paul.
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                                                  • teaserpleaser
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                                                    • 08-14-08
                                                    • 26015

                                                    #550
                                                    Soooo long Ron its not all bad still have public speaking to fall back on.... Boom
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                                                    • Dirty Sanchez
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                                                      • 03-01-10
                                                      • 16031

                                                      #551
                                                      Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                      You know, Sanchez says he not voting for any republican, correct? Then why does this guy keep his constant bs ongoing? I mean, if you're not going to vote republican, and you slander all these candidates--mostly Ron Paul, I believe--then I would have to make an educated guess that you have a demo in mind next year. Is it Obama? I don't care it if's Houdini, but it is ridiculous to keep your bantering up over and over and expect us to believe you're an independent? You are too bitter to be anything but a solid demo, or at least regular demo voter. Much like a robot, I suspect? Am I right? Am I close?
                                                      Slander? I think not...but nice try. "but it is ridiculous to keep your bantering up over and over and expect us to believe you're an independent"....actually I am, and didn't vote for Obama I assure you. I'm not bitter at all, I just don't like when people tell me what to think or believe, and the Ron Paul information that is being shoved down people's throats is just that. Just because someone doesn't believe what you want them to believe doesn't make them a bad person, except when it comes to the Ron Paul followers who are argumentative at every turn when someone calls bull on their information blitz. If you want to call someone names, by all means do it, but it just makes you look petty. For the record, in my life I voted for a Democrat once in my life and his name was Dave McCurdy in Oklahoma...and great guy and someone I would vote for again.
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                                                      • Scorpion
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                                                        • 09-04-05
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                                                        #552
                                                        Ron Paul is not racist



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                                                        • ABEHONEST
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                                                          • 06-27-09
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                                                          #553
                                                          So, now, Sanchez is onboard! Alright!
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                                                          • Scorpion
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                                                            • 09-04-05
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                                                            #554
                                                            Newt Gingrich says Ron Paul makes a good point on closing overseas military bases


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                                                            • ABEHONEST
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                                                              • 06-27-09
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                                                              #555
                                                              Shameful attempt to suck some Ron Paul voters.
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                                                              • AribaAriba
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                                                                • 04-03-09
                                                                • 2922

                                                                #556
                                                                Spread the word, Do your part folks
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                                                                • Scorpion
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                                                                  • 09-04-05
                                                                  • 7797

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Any man hated by the system and status quo as much as Ron Paul, has to be good, legitimate and absolutely necessary to bring down the corrupt corporatocracy.
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                                                                  • rkelly110
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                                                                    • 10-05-09
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                                                                    #558
                                                                    Wasn't that Obama's battle cry? To bring down the corruption? How's that working out?
                                                                    What makes everyone think Paul can do it? Money talks, bullshit walks. Paul's one man,
                                                                    like Obama. If the flood of lobby money keeps pouring in, nothing will change.
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                                                                    • ABEHONEST
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                                                                      • 06-27-09
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                                                                      #559
                                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                      Wasn't that Obama's battle cry? To bring down the corruption? How's that working out? What makes everyone think Paul can do it? Money talks, bullshit walks. Paul's one man, like Obama. If the flood of lobby money keeps pouring in, nothing will change.
                                                                      Gee Kelly, these are NOT the same men!
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                                                                      • wtf
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                                                                        • 08-22-08
                                                                        • 12983

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                        Wasn't that Obama's battle cry? To bring down the corruption? How's that working out?
                                                                        What makes everyone think Paul can do it? Money talks, bullshit walks. Paul's one man,
                                                                        like Obama. If the flood of lobby money keeps pouring in, nothing will change.
                                                                        obama = sell out from day one

                                                                        paul = never has sold out, and the track record to prove it
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