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  • pimike
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    • 03-23-08
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    #771
    Ron Paul will NEVER be president.
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    • Tully Mars 63
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      • 08-06-11
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      #772
      Originally posted by pimike
      Ron Paul will NEVER be president.
      Yeah, I just don't see any way for him to get there. But I think he'll get more votes and delegates then last election. So he might be able to push through a few policy changes but he's never going to hold the office.
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      • ABEHONEST
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        • 06-27-09
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        #773
        Originally posted by PR9
        I was big on Ron Paul in the last election. I;m canadian but lived in florida for over 15 yrs and am a dual citizen. Unfortunately, the media controls everything and we all know who controls the mass media.. just look who owns the associated press -- same people connected to the federal reserve Ron Paul will NEVER get a fair shake in the all important media, they're terrified of him because they know he's real and speaks the truth -- and we know the media is what the sheep voters go by to cast their vote.
        Vote with your heart and mind. Screw any other reasons not to vote for Paul.
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        • Tully Mars 63
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          #774
          Originally posted by ABEHONEST
          Vote with your heart and mind. Screw any other reasons not to vote for Paul.
          Probably no better way to ensure 4 more years of Obama. Maybe if you send this to the WH they'll start paying you to spread posts like this across the net.
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          • ABEHONEST
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            #775
            Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
            Probably no better way to ensure 4 more years of Obama. Maybe if you send this to the WH they'll start paying you to spread posts like this across the net.
            What? Another non-believer in Paul? You must like someone more dedicated. more unselfish, and more qualified?
            Please clue us in with some clarification?
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            • Tully Mars 63
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              #776
              Non-believer? Do you think he's the seconded coming of Christ or something? I don't believe he's as unselfish as many think. I don't believe he's the best qualified when it comes to foreign policy. I'm not convinced his economic policies would benefit the country more then they would hurt. Though I admit I'm not sure they wouldn't help either. But I doubt we'd ever find out as I seriously doubt he could get more then 10% of his ideas past congress. And I believe he has less then a 10% chance of being on the GOP ticket in any capacity.

              In my opinion he's the Ross Perot/ Ralph Nader of this years election.
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              • k13
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                • 07-16-10
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                #777
                What's a good line for Obama to win again?
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                • marcojuiceman
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                  • 05-25-11
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                  #778
                  Originally posted by pimike
                  Ron Paul will NEVER be president.
                  If he doesnt.. What changes? Nothing
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                  • ABEHONEST
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                    • 06-27-09
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                    #779
                    Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
                    Non-believer? Do you think he's the seconded coming of Christ or something? I don't believe he's as unselfish as many think. I don't believe he's the best qualified when it comes to foreign policy. I'm not convinced his economic policies would benefit the country more then they would hurt. Though I admit I'm not sure they wouldn't help either. But I doubt we'd ever find out as I seriously doubt he could get more then 10% of his ideas past congress. And I believe he has less then a 10% chance of being on the GOP ticket in any capacity. In my opinion he's the Ross Perot/ Ralph Nader of this years election.
                    Well, Mr. Secrecy, who's your man? Right now!
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                    • Tully Mars 63
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                      #780
                      Originally posted by k13
                      What's a good line for Obama to win again?
                      Unless the GOP gets it's shyte together... about -500
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                      • k13
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                        • 07-16-10
                        • 18104

                        #781
                        Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
                        Unless the GOP gets it's shyte together... about -500
                        So -160 is good?
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                        • Tully Mars 63
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                          #782
                          Originally posted by marcojuiceman
                          If he doesnt.. What changes? Nothing
                          Yes and No... He's building on a few popular issues that the GOP will have to, at some level, insert into it's platform at the convention. Thinking that politics is all or nothing is short sighted. The GOP may dislike him, might even hate him (he's really mucking up their gears this election) but if he brings enough delegates to the convention they'll be forced to make some concessions for him. I'm not sure that's working as well as he wished right now, he didn't even hold his base in SC, so the number of delegates may not be enough to have the wanted affect. But there's still time and there's a few up coming states that could go well for him. Plus I think at this point a lot of his strategy is to build on his movement so his son will have a better shot down the road.
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                          • Tully Mars 63
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                            #783
                            Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                            Well, Mr. Secrecy, who's your man? Right now!
                            Right now I don't have a choice or candidate. Luckily for me I don't have to decide right now. The only thing I can currently and honestly say is there's few a candidates I will not vote for- Paul's one and so is Santorium. I would not have voted for Bachmann or Perry either. I might have voted for Huntsman, liked him more then I do Romney.

                            Pretty much that leaves Mitt, Newt and Barrack. So unless the GOP pulls someone into the race not currently running I'll be left choosing the lesser of the three evils. Which I think we all know is still evil.

                            My best guess is my choice, given the current field, will come down to Mitt or Barrack and I might just flip a coin. But before doing that I'll hear them both out during the general election debates.
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                            • Tully Mars 63
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                              #784
                              Originally posted by k13
                              So -160 is good?

                              Honestly there's over 10 full months before the election... that's a looooong time in politics. I don't think I'd be layng out $ on any one right now.
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                              • PhillyFlyers
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                                • 09-27-11
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                                #785






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                                • brooks85
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                                  • 01-05-09
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                                  #786
                                  bet obama, i am going to...

                                  Its a win-win situation and one of the outcomes is far greater than winning a measly bet.
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                                  • kfranz31
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                                    • 02-09-10
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                                    #787
                                    he is the only one worth voting for..all the others are asses
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                                    • Scorpion
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                                      • 09-04-05
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                                      #788
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                                      • slacker00
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                                        • 10-06-05
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                                        #789
                                        Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                        Well, Mr. Secrecy, who's your man? Right now!
                                        I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primary. Same in November. I'm writing Ron paul in if he's not on the presidential ballot. It's about making a statement and brokering influence towards legitimatcy of the movement. Voting is meaningless enough as it is, I'm certainly not going to consent to the cronies.
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                                        • Tully Mars 63
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                                          #790
                                          Well the latest polls out of Florida over night show Mitt regaining the lead over Newt. I think even on the "space coast" the idea of spending money on a moon colony that might become a state probably sounded little "spacy." Polls also shows Paul losing ground and now in 4th place behind Santorium... and Santorium left the state to go home and "do his taxes." That sounds a lot like "wanted to spend more time with my family" and I think we all know what that usually means. Oh he and his staff say he's in it for the long haul, which is exactly what Perry and his staff were saying the day before he dropped out. Santoriums broke, he's getting less then 15% my guess is he's toast by the end of next week.

                                          Paul's coming in at 9% in the over night. Less then Santorium and less then the 18% +/- base he had going at the start of the primaries.

                                          He's not going to be the POTUS, just isn't going to happen. But given the choices the GOP has left people with I could see people casting a protest vote for him. Newt makes me feel ill when listening to him. Mitt strikes me as the ultimate "plastic" candidate willing to say anything to get elected. But I won't be voting for Paul... I don't like him either.

                                          Maybe I'll vote none of the above.
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                                          • Balco10
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                                            • 09-11-10
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                                            #791
                                            I thin at this point we vote GOP no matter what!
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                                            • Tully Mars 63
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                                              #792
                                              Why? What have they offered us? Mitt? Newt? If that's the best they can do I don't think I can vote GOP. The country would probably be better off with Obama.
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                                              • slacker00
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                                                • 10-06-05
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                                                #793
                                                Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
                                                Maybe I'll vote none of the above.
                                                Check out Gary Johnson or Buddy Roemer who are running as 3rd party candidates. There are tons of others 3rd party candidates as well that are sometimes interesting to examine, especially now days with a wealth of information about them available on the internet. I've been voting 3rd party more or less my whole life and I think it does make a statement. If you find one that you like, please share.
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                                                • ABEHONEST
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                                                  • 06-27-09
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                                                  #794
                                                  If Paul doesn't make it through any other means, even after a possible third-party run, then Romney will be the elected candidate from the Repubs. So, what's so wrong with Romney, who is 100% more qualified than the rookie candidate that the Demo's fell in love with. And, have you noticed, presently, that the honeymoon is over for 90% of all Americans?

                                                  Wake-up you fools! We need another man to take the reins and have the opportunity to prove someone was a better choice than an unproven rookie, who, is now a proven failure.

                                                  Now, if you disagree with Obama being a failure; please, please, take your time and explain in detail and let me soak in some positive facts that override the negative facts, I believe I have seen? Step right up if you love OBAMA. But, you have to explain your position, or just don't reply.
                                                  Thank you!
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                                                  • dante1
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                                                    • 10-31-05
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                                                    #795
                                                    Read my bumped article in Politics, that is an answer for you Abe.
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                                                    • Tully Mars 63
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                                                      #796
                                                      Obama approval rating is currently 45% and it's been climbing. So I have no idea where you get your-

                                                      And, have you noticed, presently, that the honeymoon is over for 90% of all Americans
                                                      Or what exactly you mean by it.

                                                      Currently if my choice is between Newt, Mitt or Barrack I'll take Barrack.
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                                                      • Tully Mars 63
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                                                        #797
                                                        Originally posted by slacker00
                                                        Check out Gary Johnson or Buddy Roemer who are running as 3rd party candidates. There are tons of others 3rd party candidates as well that are sometimes interesting to examine, especially now days with a wealth of information about them available on the internet. I've been voting 3rd party more or less my whole life and I think it does make a statement. If you find one that you like, please share.
                                                        This will depend on what the state dept. does with my absentee ballot this election. Last time I had two choices... McCain or Obama. I really liked McCain at first but he slowly seemed to lose his fukking mind. When he went back to DC to "help" Bush deal with the economic crisis and the Wall St. implosion yet had no ideas to offer on how to "help" I started thinking maybe he wasn't the best choice. The day he choose Palin as his VP I filled out my ballot for Obama and walked it down to the US Consul.

                                                        I think McCain would have been a great POTUS had he been elected in 2000. By 2008 he'd seemingly become an angry old man with questionable mental faculties.
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                                                        • ABEHONEST
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                                                          #798
                                                          Originally posted by Tully Mars 63
                                                          Obama approval rating is currently 45% and it's been climbing. So I have no idea where you get your- Or what exactly you mean by it. Currently if my choice is between Newt, Mitt or Barrack I'll take Barrack.
                                                          Hmm, so you are saying you are better off financially, feel your nation is more secure, too, with Mr. Obama?
                                                          You never give details as to why you love Obama better than any other candidates. Just what has he done for you, specifically?
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                                                          • Tully Mars 63
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                                                            #799
                                                            I'm I personally better off? Not sure my situation has changed at all but my dad benefited greatly by the health care act. Many of my investments have turned around since they tanked at the end of Bush Jr's. term, but I'm not sure Obama could be credited with that. Is the US more secure? Bush said he didn't think/worry about OBL anymore. Obama made it a priority to seek him out and kill him. A fairly large number of other terrorists leaders have also been taken out as well. So yes I think the country is safer under Obama then it was under Bush Jr. I think the way the Auto industry was handled turned out well for a lot of blue collar workers and the investment is being or has been paid back.

                                                            But there's a number of things I don't like about Obama too. Fact check his last SOTU address and I think you'll find a few whoppers in there. So I don't "love" him (I think "loving" a politician is a rather silly idea) but I don't hate him either. I absolutely think he could have done/handled many things better. But if given the choice between Obama , Mitt, Newt or Paul I'll likely vote Obama again.
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                                                            • cwbuff44
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                                                              • 01-27-12
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                                                              #800
                                                              Huge Ron Paul fan. And no, sadly he will likely never be elected because people aren't smart enough to vote for him.
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                                                              • wtf
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                                                                • 08-22-08
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                                                                #801
                                                                Originally posted by cwbuff44
                                                                Huge Ron Paul fan. And no, sadly he will likely never be elected because people aren't smart enough to vote for him.
                                                                imho it is because of the WOMAN vote

                                                                they are superficial cows and chose the guy who looks best on tv
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                                                                • cwbuff44
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                                                                  #802
                                                                  aka Romney! I agree. The polling shows Romney dominates the female vote.
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                                                                  • ABEHONEST
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                                                                    • 06-27-09
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                                                                    #803
                                                                    Yes, I have to agree with that statement about women voters. But, aren't men the same? Yes, if not worse?
                                                                    I do believe Ron Paul could use a serious makeover. He does appear to be tried and worn-down quite a bit. He is too naive about appearances. Someone, a smart adviser, needs to clue him in. Soon!

                                                                    Take those bags away, and he looks great for 76 and counting.
                                                                    And, bags, no, not the Demos like Nancy and Hillery. But, couldn't hurt, could it?
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                                                                    • slacker00
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                                                                      #804
                                                                      I didn't realize that Ron Paul was missing the female vote. But I guess it's true. It just goes to show that these elections are more about personality than about issues. I think Ron Paul is missing the machismo swagger that women seek in a male leader. Unfortunately, Obama seems to be dripping with it.
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                                                                      • Tully Mars 63
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                                                                        #805
                                                                        On the bright side for Paul fans he'll likely get more delegates over the next week then Newt and Santorium combined. None of the three will likely get any in Florida, which is winner take at, but Paul's recently spent a lot of time in Maine. Maine's not a winner take all state and Paul did pretty well there in 2008. This time around he has a better ground game going and everyone else has been focused on Florida. I don't see him getting the most delegates there but he could.
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