Is there a God?

[uscfootball33]

Absolutely. There is definitely a God. Now I am not trying to sound all super religious (and if you knew me, you probably wouldn't even know I believed in God because it is not something that I flaunt), but I wouldn't be where I am now without god. Do I drink, fight, and get myself into way too much trouble? Haha, you can bet on it! Does God still have a special place in my life and get me back on track every now and then. You bet!

[slacker00]

One thing is for sure, all the biggest idiots are also the biggest believers for some reason. Funny how that works.

Look, I'm not saying there is no God, I'm just saying that the amount of evidence in support of God's existence is roughly on par with the amount of evidence in support of the existence of hobbits and wood nymphs.

Einstein believed in God.

I think your point is moot. Otherwise, we could just do an IQ test across the various religions or other non-beliefs and pick whoever was blessed with the best neurons. Not that that kind of thinking hasn't happened throughout history. Wars were won believing "God is on our side, that's why we won". Same thing. Just because God made you smarter, doesn't mean that you're more "enlightened" towards God's master plan.

[HAPPY BOY]

Goes beyond the middle east look through history and you will see events done by muslims, and christians, and indians (Inca, mayan) the KKK ,The Spanih inquesition, all these are examples of people acting in the name of who they believe is God.

[Dazzez]

Einstein believed in God.

I think your point is moot. Otherwise, we could just do an IQ test across the various religions or other non-beliefs and pick whoever was blessed with the best neurons. Not that that kind of thinking hasn't happened throughout history. Wars were won believing "God is on our side, that's why we won". Same thing. Just because God made you smarter, doesn't mean that you're more "enlightened" towards God's master plan.

Einstein did not believe in a religious God:

The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions.

Oh, and Einstein also believed in a "cosmological constant" which he later termed the "biggest blunder of his life". That's the difference bnetween scientists and religionists, the former will gladly will admit they're wrong in the face of new evidence or argument, while the latter will never admit they're wrong despite thousands of years of science and history proving their claims to the contrary.

[armyoflovers]

Cant forget the man himself...

[Quebb Diesel]

even if god exists and is real...i cant say his ultimate ultimatum in belief is necessary..."god" should accept the good for who they are and what they do in life rather than putting labels on believers and non believers...a belief in one religion does not make you a good human being while a belief in good morals, actions, and overall attitude of life is much more important to me. if any certain religion's god does truly exist when my time comes i would expect him or her to judge me for the way i lived my life barring my beliefs in religion and whether or not i believe in a higher divinity. i feel like religion has been a governmental tool from day one to try and control a populace and give them hope in the future. genius for whoever scripted any holy book by "brainwashing" the "believers" into its set of beliefs and ideals of life...

[armyoflovers]

God is as abstract as love, its meaning and interpretation is left up to the individual. But God, unlike love, is not palpable. You dont feel God whereas you feel love.

Sorry to break it to you all, but that chump dont exist in ANY religion. I live by the laws of the land that separate the church and state. Thank god we arent a theocracy in USA. Do you really want to live by Iranian or Saudi rules? Everything has shitty religious conotations to it.

[Dazzez]

even if god exists and is real...i cant say his ultimate ultimatum in belief is necessary..."god" should accept the good for who they are and what they do in life rather than putting labels on believers and non believers...a belief in one religion does not make you a good human being while a belief in good morals, actions, and overall attitude of life is much more important to me. if any certain religion's god does truly exist when my time comes i would expect him or her to judge me for the way i lived my life barring my beliefs in religion and whether or not i believe in a higher divinity.

While you might expect that, the good Christians and Muslims of this world world staunchly disagree.

You need to be a part of their club to get to heaven.

[slacker00]

Einstein did not believe in a religious God:



Oh, and Einstein also believed in a "cosmological constant" which he later termed the "biggest blunder of his life". That's the difference bnetween scientists and religionists, the former will gladly will admit they're wrong in the face of new evidence or argument, while the latter will never admit they're wrong despite thousands of years of science and history proving their claims to the contrary.

My point still stands. You cannot judge a person's argument based on IQ alone, as you did in your first assertion above.

[chuba]

Proooooooooooooof of God!! This chick is so hot!!!

[zentiense]

God is a complicated topic -- everyone has vastly different conceptions of what "the divine" is, if they believe in "divinity" at all. Can there ever be a right answer to this question? It seems doomed from the start.

[Dazzez]

My point still stands. You cannot judge a person's argument based on IQ alone, as you did in your first assertion above.

I was merely responding in kind to pokernut's foolish claim that "One thing is for sure , all the biggest sinners are also the biggest disbelievers for some reason. Funny how that works."

[slacker00]

One thing is for sure , all the biggest sinners are also the biggest disbelievers for some reason. Funny how that works.

That's because it's by definition. Religion makes it's own rules.

That's like saying the greatest home run hitters in human history were all baseball players. Well, duh!!!

[Quebb Diesel]

While you might expect that, the good Christians and Muslims of this world world staunchly disagree.

You need to be a part of their club to get to heaven.

i know...to get into THEIR heaven...id much rather be in a "heaven" which is based solely on how individuals lived their lives with or without the beliefs of higher divinity...im sure there are millions of christians and muslims who are a lot worse than i am but b/c they say they "believe" they are suppose to get the pass over someone who doesnt necessarily believe but lives a much better life

[slacker00]

I'm outta here guys, I feel like my IQ is getting lower every post I make in this thread. I can't afford to go any lower than I already am!!! haha Later guys. Remember, Jesus loves you!

[guitarjosh]

One thing is for sure, all the biggest idiots are also the biggest believers for some reason. Funny how that works.

Look, I'm not saying there is no God, I'm just saying that the amount of evidence in support of God's existence is roughly on par with the amount of evidence in support of the existence of hobbits and wood nymphs.

Do you think there is an unexplained supernatural?

[Dazzez]

Do you think there is an unexplained supernatural?

"An unexplained supernatural"?

I don't know what that means.

[guitarjosh]

"An unexplained supernatural"?

I don't know what that means.

Ghosts, poltergiests, unexplained healings... things people have experienced but science can't explain.

[Dazzez]

Ghosts, poltergiests, unexplained healings... things people have experienced but science can't explain.

Can science explain hobbits, goblins, orcs, and the casting of Bigby's Clenched Fist by magic users of level 13 and higher? No.

Science has great difficulty explaining that for which no verifiable evidence exists.

[guitarjosh]

Can science explain hobbits, goblins, orcs, and the casting of Bigby's Clenched Fist by magic users of level 13 and higher? No.

Science has great difficulty explaining that for which no verifiable evidence exists.

You don't think eyewitness account is evidence of ghosts or poltergiests?

[Quebb Diesel]

You don't think eyewitness account is evidence of ghosts or poltergiests?

the mind can do funny things

[Cloak & Dagger]

No Heaven or Hell? Tell that to her.

ya.....you said it best.....tell that to her

[guitarjosh]

the mind can do funny things

Sure, I would say most things people attribute to ghosts are nothing other then pipes or things like that, but when you have a group of people who see a brick fly across the room... I don't think it should just be chalked up to mass hysteria.

[Dazzez]

You don't think eyewitness account is evidence of ghosts or poltergiests?

There are eyewitness accounts of many things, but as police the world over will tell you, eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. People believe what they want to believe and the intersection of that belief and truth is frequently quite nebulous.

I'd love to perform a double-blind experiments, placing individuals in both a "known" haunted house and a house "known" not to be haunted. I suspect there'd be no significant difference between those believing one house or the other "haunted".

I think we're all a bit too old for ghost stories, don't you?

[guitarjosh]

There are eyewitness accounts of many things, but as police the world over will tell you, eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. People believe what they want to believe and the intersection of that belief and truth is frequently quite nebulous.

I'd love to perform a double-blind experiments, placing individuals in both a "known" haunted house and a house "known" not to be haunted. I suspect there'd be no significant difference between those believing one house or the other "haunted".

I think we're all a bit too old for ghost stories, don't you?

Eyewitness accounts can be unreliable, but you can't lump all eyewitness testimony into the unreliable camp, that would be unscientific.

[Dazzez]

Eyewitness accounts can be unreliable, but you can't lump all eyewitness testimony into the unreliable camp, that would be unscientific.

No, that's not what I'm doing. I'm saying that "evidence" needs to be verified by testing and experimentation before it can be accepted, investogated, and then ultimately addressed by science.

Anecodtyal is perhaps a start but nothing more.

If 100 people all claim a particular house "haunted", then let's find 1,000 more people, put them in that house and then put them in a similar house, without either the experimenter or the experimentee knowing which is which.

Then let's see what percentage of the group are able to "correctly" identify the "haunted" house as "haunted". My guess? Right around 50%.

[Quebb Diesel]

Sure, I would say most things people attribute to ghosts are nothing other then pipes or things like that, but when you have a group of people who see a brick fly across the room... I don't think it should just be chalked up to mass hysteria.

depends on who the group of people were...never heard of a brick flying across a room though unexplained...

[Dazzez]

depends on who the group of people were...never heard of a brick flying across a room though unexplained...

Agreed. Where are all these accounts of bricks flying across rooms anyway?

How do I get to spend the night at one of these huanted houses and experience this? I'd pay some very good money for that.

[thezbar]

This there a God?
Yes -110
No -110
I wonder which way this line would move?

[pavyracer]

There are three things that do not exist:

1. God
2. Aliens
3. Ghosts

I challenge anyone to provide evidence.

[Dazzez]

This there a God?
Yes -110
No -110
I wonder which way this line would move?

How/when would such a bet settle?

[pavyracer]

How/when would such a bet settle?

Like they do in murder cases in court. Provide me a dead body of any of the three and you win the bet.

[accuscoresucks]

people here actually had a discussion about this

wow

[chipski]

when the plane is going down most people in this world call on who ? GOD
why ? because it is true there is a supreme force and everyone knows it down deep ..
any normal person would say GOD !!! please help us !!!
WHY ?
because everyone is just stupid or because it is only logical that we come from something greater than any human mind or scientific theory or comprehension can grasp ..

the plane is going down , thats the real time you show what you are really
made of and who made you . believe that ..

you know who you are going to call on for help . if not , then you must not have a real brain or a loving heart at all .

GOD IS LOVE and the SPIRIT WILL MOVE YOU IF YOU SEEK OUT THE PURE ONE WITHIN YOURSELF . THE ONE THAT GAVE YOU THIS GIFT OF LIFE FOR A SMALL DURATION OF DAYS .

if you really break down to how many days you will walk the earth you will be surprised at the low # you have been here thus far . it is a very low # .
so if you are unsure and doubt a greater prescence that exists maybe you should count the actual days you have been on the earth . wtf do you know to really be able to make any claim if you have had no SPIRITUAL BODY MOVING , HEART GRIPPING , VISION FILLED EXPERIECNES .
maybe you will have some in your life , but only if you surrender and tap into your INNER SPIRIT EVERY DAY .. when you lay down to go to sleep , talk to God , find your inner spirit , the HOLY SPIRIT . it is not a lie my friends . this i can attest to without any reservations or doubts .
the SPIRIT IS AS REAL AS ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY SHORT LIFE .

[pat venditto]

wow that ****in video is spot on. religion is a fairy tale and all you brainwashed people including 90% of america need to wake up. you know what a church is? its a business. they make money.