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  • pimike
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    • 03-23-08
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    #36
    Originally posted by armyoflovers
    So why does god kill innocent babies at the expense of non-believers? And do the dead newborns go to hell with the parents? Or do they get a free pass to heaven.

    Gods a prick for making babies martyrs.

    Religion is comfort food for the scared and insecure.
    God doesn't kill people kill. We live in a sinful world as long as we have those type of people we will have unthinkable thigs going on.

    We do have freedom of choice. We are not robots.
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    • chipski
      SBR MVP
      • 11-16-07
      • 1745

      #37
      one of the best ways to think in human terms if there is a God goes like this .
      look at yourself in the mirror . you will see you have TWO ARMS . TWO LEGS . TWO EARS . TWO LEGS . TWO FEET . TWO BEAUTIFUL EYES . TWO CHEEKS , LOL . ON YOUR FACE AND BACKSIDE . TWO KIDNEYS . TWO NIPPLES . etc ..

      WHAT ARE THE OODS OF THAT BEING RANDOM ? REALLY THINK ABOUT IT !!

      okay there is more ..
      you have 5 FINGERS . 5 TOES . 32 TEETH ? WHATEVER RIGHT . 32 , 34 ? LOL
      1 HEART . 1 BRAIN . 12 RIBS etc .. YOU GET IT ?

      it is all toooo perfect to be random and for there not to be something greater that made this magnificient piece of work in making man/woman . ooh damn
      1 DIC! 1 VAGINA . lol
      come on , you know that is just one look , think about how perfect nature is as a whole . how everything does in fact have a purpose pretty much .
      sure there are creatures you can name that seem to serve no purpose , maggots , whatever right . well , they represent nature of civilization itself not being perfect .. whenever you create a big world there will be things that make no sense and turn into maggots .
      like the tsunami you spoke of ..

      this world is not God's world . this life on earth is up in the air for you to do as you please , free will . the Spirit is real but if you dont TRULY SEEK IT you will always remain in the dark naked and confused by this tricky , manipulative place we call home .
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      • ZBOIZ
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        • 06-22-08
        • 21464

        #38
        Originally posted by Dazzez
        How do you know this?
        If you read the bible there's a lot of proof that there's a God!!!

        For example:
        The story of Babylon in the bible: To make a long story short there were a lot of wicked people keeping god people in prison(in Babylon) so god had a man by the name of Cyrus to lead a army to Babylon and destroy Babylon and free his people. ***NOW KEEP THIS IN MIND***THIS STORY WAS FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE BEFORE IT HAPPENED**THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN WAY BEFORE THIS EVEN HAPPENED****so on the night of OCTOBER 5/6 God used Cyrus and his army to go to Babylon AND THEY DESTROYED IT!!!!! BUT GOD STATED IN THE BIBLE LONG B4 THIS HAPPENED IT WAS STATED THAT WHEN CYRUS DESTROY BABYLON THIS LAND WILL NEVER BE INHABITED AGAIN, NOR WILL SHE RESIDE FOR GENERATIONS AFTER GENERATION!! SO THIS MEANS THAT NO ONE WILL EVER LIVE IN BABYLON AGAIN...**NOT EVEN TODAY*** IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH SEE DO ANYBODY STAY IN BABYLON WHICH IS ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH OF BAGHDAD!!! GOD CLEARLY STATED THAT NO ONE WILL EVER RESIDE IN BABYLON!!HE WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE THERE!! TODAY IN BABYLON THERE'S NO GRASS OR WATER!! AND ITS BEEN LIKE THAT SINCE 539 B.C.E!!!
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        • armyoflovers
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 07-26-07
          • 714

          #39
          God is an enabler to letting people kill. God should just get on a plane (or elevator), stroll down to hell and kick Satans ass. Then the world will be a pristie place.

          Speaking of Satan, if heaven was a totally perfect place how in the bloody hell did Satan acquire the propensity to be jealous of God? And since God can forsee this shit, why in the hell didnt he do shit to stop it? Sounds contrived to me.
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          • Dazzez
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-04-06
            • 258

            #40
            Originally posted by pimike
            The historical facts in the Bible show it to be true.

            The Bible has forcased things to come and they have come true. Even the Muslim religion know Christ was here on earth and lived a perfect life, died and rose again.

            This is not the place to go into details but if you really are intereted I would love to talk to you later regarding HOW I KNOW.
            So we know it's true because the Bible says so, and we know we can trust what the Bible has to say because it's the Word of God, which we know to be the case because the Bible tells us.

            So given that you're using the Islam beliefs as proof of the existence of Jesus, I assume you also believe that Mohammad is the Profit of Allah?

            Originally posted by pimike
            Put it this way if I am wrong, which I'm not, I lose nothing when I die, if those who don't believe die and their wrong they lose everything.
            This known as Pascal's Wager and it's roughly as old as it foolish.
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            • armyoflovers
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-26-07
              • 714

              #41
              Originally posted by chipski
              one of the best ways to think in human terms if there is a God goes like this .
              look at yourself in the mirror . you will see you have TWO ARMS . TWO LEGS . TWO EARS . TWO LEGS . TWO FEET . TWO BEAUTIFUL EYES . TWO CHEEKS , LOL . ON YOUR FACE AND BACKSIDE . TWO KIDNEYS . TWO NIPPLES . etc ..

              WHAT ARE THE OODS OF THAT BEING RANDOM ? REALLY THINK ABOUT IT !!

              okay there is more ..
              you have 5 FINGERS . 5 TOES . 32 TEETH ? WHATEVER RIGHT . 32 , 34 ? LOL
              1 HEART . 1 BRAIN . 12 RIBS etc .. YOU GET IT ?

              it is all toooo perfect to be random and for there not to be something greater that made this magnificient piece of work in making man/woman . ooh damn
              1 DIC! 1 VAGINA . lol
              come on , you know that is just one look , think about how perfect nature is as a whole . how everything does in fact have a purpose pretty much .
              sure there are creatures you can name that seem to serve no purpose , maggots , whatever right . well , they represent nature itself not being perfect , whenever you create a big world there will be things that make no sense and turn into maggots .
              like the tsunami you spoke of ..

              this world is not God's world . this life on earth is up in the air for you to do as you please , free will . the Spirit is real but if you dont TRULY SEEK IT you will always remain in the dark naked and confused by this tricky , manipulative place we call home .
              evolution, bro. billions and billions of YEARS refining the process. In the beginning we were all parasites man, thats it. Now look at us. Weve came a long way.
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              • pimike
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                • 03-23-08
                • 37140

                #42
                Originally posted by armyoflovers
                God is an enabler to letting people kill. God should just get on a plane (or elevator), stroll down to hell and kick Satans ass. Then the world will be a pristie place.

                Speaking of Satan, if heaven was a totally perfect place how in the bloody hell did Satan acquire the propensity to be jealous of God? And since God can forsee this shit, why in the hell didnt he do shit to stop it? Sounds contrived to me.
                Satin is not God nor was he ever God, his problem is and was he wanted to be like God. As for in Hell he is not at this time he is like a roaring lion out to seek and devour people for his own demise.


                If there is no GOD then how did you get here on this Earth?
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                • ZBOIZ
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                  • 06-22-08
                  • 21464

                  #43
                  Dazzez Read My Post
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                  • pimike
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                    • 03-23-08
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                    Dazzez Read My Post
                    So the sun, moon animals people just evolved now that seems more unbelievable to me.

                    If we evolved from monkeys then where did the monkeys come from? How can nothing become something if there is no God?
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                    • pavyracer
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                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82907

                      #45
                      There is no God. If you see him make him make a video and post it at SBR.
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                      • pimike
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                        • 03-23-08
                        • 37140

                        #46
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        There is no God. If you see him make him make a video and post it at SBR.
                        Yout homeland security buddy believes

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                        • ZBOIZ
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-22-08
                          • 21464

                          #47
                          Originally posted by armyoflovers
                          So why does god kill innocent babies at the expense of non-believers? And do the dead newborns go to hell with the parents? Or do they get a free pass to heaven.

                          Gods a prick for making babies martyrs.

                          Religion is comfort food for the scared and insecure.
                          Actually God does'nt kill inocent babies. Satan kills innocent babies.

                          BUT GOD ALLOWS IT TO HAPPEN! WE WERE BORN TO BE IMPERFECT SO THE DEATHS THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR FACE IS CAUSED BY THE DEVIL.

                          God stated that :The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one
                          So that clearly lets you know that god is not causing these death its the DEVIL!
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                          • Panic
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                            • 01-06-08
                            • 10367

                            #48
                            No Heaven or Hell? Tell that to her.


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                            • armyoflovers
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-26-07
                              • 714

                              #49
                              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                              Actually God does'nt kill inocent babies. Satan kills innocent babies.

                              BUT GOD ALLOWS IT TO HAPPEN! WE WERE BORN TO BE IMPERFECT SO THE DEATHS THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR FACE IS CAUSED BY THE DEVIL.

                              God stated that :The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one
                              So that clearly lets you know that god is not causing these death its the DEVIL!
                              Where the fu ck do the dead babies go man???
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                              • ZBOIZ
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-22-08
                                • 21464

                                #50
                                Originally posted by pimike
                                So the sun, moon animals people just evolved now that seems more unbelievable to me.

                                If we evolved from monkeys then where did the monkeys come from? How can nothing become something if there is no God?
                                Your right there is a god!
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                                • willyback
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-15-07
                                  • 674

                                  #51
                                  God doesn't exist. Humans waste too much time contemplating pointless bullshit like the "existence of God." Religion is a waste of time. It's a 'crowd control' mechanism for the super rich - keeps the workers in line, because some "higher power" might be monitoring and judging their life's actions (LOL). There might be "hell" to pay if you don't live your life within a given set of rules. It's all BULLSH*T.

                                  Meanwhile the super rich are breaking every rule in the book (behind closed doors of course), continuing to get more money, bang more hot chicks, and maintain excellent health.

                                  Example: If Dick Cheney was a working-class, GOD FEARING American citizen, he would have died from heart failure many years ago (probably without full medical coverage). Thankfully, he's rich and PURE EVIL (GOD be damned). Mr. Cheney had his first heart attack in his 30s, now he's 67 and still going strong (God couldn't stop him - LOL).

                                  In the national anthem... we DIRECTLY ask for "God" to "Bless America." What happens... Bush for two terms, 9/11, record high gas prices, housing market in the crapper, China's quietly taking the US over, the dollar is at an all-time low, toys with lead, tomatoes with salmonella, nine trillion dollars worth of debt, the continued outsourcing of American jobs, etc.

                                  If there is a GOD in the sky. He f*cking hates the United States (LOL).
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                                  • pimike
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                                    • 03-23-08
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                                    #52
                                    Babies are not perfect, as for what happens to them only God knows. I do believe God has many babies with Him in Heaven.


                                    A mother who lives a life of sin and loses her baby may have lost it due to God knowing the life for that Baby will be bette off with HIM.
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                                    • ZBOIZ
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 06-22-08
                                      • 21464

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by armyoflovers
                                      Where the fu ck do the dead babies go man???
                                      the bible states that:
                                      When a person dies he ceases to exist

                                      it also states:
                                      as for the dead they are conscious of nothing at all

                                      it also stated
                                      when man do die his thought perish


                                      There's no statement in the bible that says were babies go when they die
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                                      • Dazzez
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 08-04-06
                                        • 258

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by pimike
                                        If we evolved from monkeys then where did the monkeys come from? How can nothing become something if there is no God?
                                        Who says we evolved from monkeys?

                                        No, humans and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor.

                                        This was no "random" event, but rather one guided over billions of years by the process natural.

                                        Just because you or Kent Hovind might not understand the underlying science of the theory of natural selection which explains the fact of evolution doesn't mean it isn't real.

                                        You can believe whatever you like -- that's fully your right, but it doesn't make your belief structure any less absurd or its rejection of science any less ridiculous.
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                                        • slacker00
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                                          • 10-06-05
                                          • 12262

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by armyoflovers
                                          If God hasnt spoken yet sir he is allowing Satan to perpetuate sinning by not eradicating the source. Why does he allow us to live in a sinful world? The kill the ****er and let perfection and harmony thrive.
                                          1. Existence of God does not imply the existence of Satan. I don't believe in the existence of Satan.

                                          2. We cannot know God's will, God's plan, it is beyond our capacity. Personally, I believe the question itself is flawed. It is not for us to know. We are not running things as much as we think we are.

                                          3. "Sin" supposes that we understand God's will. I claim the opposite. Passing down God-like judgement needs to be beyond the scope of humanity. Let God do his job and keep our greasy noses out of his business. That's what's ruining things.

                                          4. Beyond this, your statements seem fairly incoherent to me.
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                                          • pimike
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                                            • 03-23-08
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Dazzez
                                            Who says we evolved from monkeys?

                                            No, humans and monkeys both evolved from a common ancestor.

                                            This was no "random" event, but rather one guided over billions of years by the process natural.

                                            Just because you or Kent Hovind might not understand the underlying science of the theory of natural selection which explains the fact of evolution doesn't mean it isn't real.

                                            You can believe whatever you like -- that's fully your right, but it doesn't make your belief structure any less absurd or its rejection of science any less ridiculous.
                                            What was guided?? By whom? You can't have noting made into something. No random event then there has to be someone controlling it. GOD
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                                            • pimike
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                                              • 03-23-08
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by slacker00
                                              1. Existance of God does not imply the existance of Satan. I don't believe in the existance of Satan.

                                              2. We cannot know God's will, God's plan, it is beyond our capacity. Personally, I believe the question itself is flawed. It is not for us to know. We are not running things as much as we think we are.

                                              3. "Sin" supposes that we understand God's will. I claim the opposite. Passing down God-like judgement needs to be beyond the scope of humanity. Let God do his job and keep our greasy noses out of his business. That's what's ruining things.

                                              4. Beyond this, your statements seem fairly incoherent to me.
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                                              • ZBOIZ
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                                                • 06-22-08
                                                • 21464

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by slacker00
                                                1. Existence of God does not imply the existence of Satan. I don't believe in the existence of Satan.

                                                2. We cannot know God's will, God's plan, it is beyond our capacity. Personally, I believe the question itself is flawed. It is not for us to know. We are not running things as much as we think we are.

                                                3. "Sin" supposes that we understand God's will. I claim the opposite. Passing down God-like judgement needs to be beyond the scope of humanity. Let God do his job and keep our greasy noses out of his business. That's what's ruining things.

                                                4. Beyond this, your statements seem fairly incoherent to me.

                                                How can you believe in god but not belive in Satan???

                                                God sayed that there is a Satan??? So you calling God a lier??
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                                                • pimike
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                                                  • 03-23-08
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                  How can you believe in god but not belive in Satan???

                                                  God sayed that there is a Satan??? So you calling God a lier??
                                                  Can't have one without the other.
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                                                  • ZBOIZ
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                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                    • 21464

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                                    Can't have one without the other.
                                                    God sayed that this world is currently laying in the hands of the wicked one!!!!

                                                    But he also sayed that the wicked one days are numbered!!!

                                                    If you dont belive in what the bible says then you dont belive in GOD
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                                                    • Dazzez
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                                                      • 08-04-06
                                                      • 258

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      What was guided??
                                                      The evolution of "lower" life forms into "higher.

                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      By whom?
                                                      Not by whom, but by what. That what is the process of natural selection.

                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      You can't have noting made into something.
                                                      Sure you can. Electrons and positrons, for example, spontaneously come into existence all the time. Out of nothing.

                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      No random event then there has to be someone controlling it.
                                                      Evolution doesn't represent a "random" event. That's a very common misconception held by those who simply don't understand the underlying science. Natural selection isn't "random", in fact it's anything but.

                                                      Originally posted by pimike
                                                      GOD
                                                      You've just gotten through telling me that, "You can't have noting made into something," but you seem fully comfortable applying this logic to your concept of "God".
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                                                      • HAPPY BOY
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                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 7109

                                                        #62
                                                        To say you know there is its as naive as saying you know there isn't. maybe there is a God. If so I know he has never spoken to men, or people on earth that say they are his press agents. I get a kick of Christians who are always judging yet there ceo said "judge not'" As for the bible man made by man to control man. full of contradictions and archaic qoutes. I hope there is something beyond this world we live in filled with so much hate. I say again, I don't know if there is a God.
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                                                        • ZBOIZ
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                                                          • 06-22-08
                                                          • 21464

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                                                          To say you know there is its as naive as saying you know there isn't. maybe there is a God. If so I know he has never spoken to men, or people on earth that say they are his press agents. I get a kick of Christians who are always judging yet there ceo said "judge not'" As for the bible man made by man to control man. full of contradictions and archaic qoutes. I hope there is something beyond this world we live in filled with so much hate. I say again, I don't know if there is a God.
                                                          Thats why you have to have faith!


                                                          and also "faith without work is dead"
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                                                          • pokernut9999
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                                                            • 07-25-07
                                                            • 12757

                                                            #64
                                                            One thing is for sure , all the biggest sinners are also the biggest disbelievers for some reason. Funny how that works.
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                                                            • Dazzez
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 08-04-06
                                                              • 258

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                              One thing is for sure , all the biggest sinners are also the biggest disbelievers for some reason. Funny how that works.
                                                              One thing is for sure, all the biggest idiots are also the biggest believers for some reason. Funny how that works.

                                                              Look, I'm not saying there is no God, I'm just saying that the amount of evidence in support of God's existence is roughly on par with the amount of evidence in support of the existence of hobbits and wood nymphs.
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                                                              • HAPPY BOY
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                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 7109

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                                                One thing is for sure , all the biggest sinners are also the biggest disbelievers for some reason. Funny how that works.
                                                                Poker I love you bud, but you yourself know all the suffering and wars and injustice done by men in the so called name of God. They were believers.
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                                                                • slacker00
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                                  • 12262

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                                  How can you believe in god but not belive in Satan???

                                                                  God sayed that there is a Satan??? So you calling God a lier??
                                                                  I am calling anyone quoting God a liar.
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                                                                  • HAPPY BOY
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                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 7109

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by slacker00
                                                                    I am calling anyone quoting God a liar.
                                                                    Well said! it reminds me of the ol' snake oil salesman.
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                                                                      Poker I love you bud, but you yourself know all the suffering and wars and injustice done by men in the so called name of God. They were believers.
                                                                      So if those in the middle east believe in another god that means that the one in the bible does not exist ?


                                                                      And if you belived in god can we assume you would not have commited one on the biggest sins in god eyes ?
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                                                                      • armyoflovers
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 07-26-07
                                                                        • 714

                                                                        #70
                                                                        here you go, this kid is happy for what god has done for him.
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