I dont tip often in blackjack even when I am playing $50-200 a hand. I might give $25 tip after a 1 hour session, but dont give shit when I lose. I mean a monkey could deal the cards.
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I usually play craps and I always tip throughout and after a session, but I guess craps is a little different though. You can really tell the difference between good stickmen and dealers vs. mediocre ones. With a full pit good ones keep up with bets which can be a handful with as much yelling and chip flinging that goes on, confirming those last second bets or reminding me that I have some chips on the table before the roll comes out. If I'm betting hardways, there's always those odd number of chips left that I always toss to the dealers, but they usually lay it on a hard number for themselves. I've had good dealers ask the waitress to bring me a pack of cigs when they notice I ran out. I had a stickman overhear my buddy and I talking about taking a break and getting some dinner. The stickman said something to the pitboss who came over and told us that he would be happy to make dinner arrangements for us compliments of the casino. I realize that's part of their job, but I appreciate the better ones and will definitely tip.Comment -
i never tip...i need all the $$$Comment -
Do not tipComment -
Really don't comprehend tipping casino
dealers, slots, books, etc. It's their job
to take your cash. If your lucky enough
to have a good session, put that dough
in your pocket. May want to give the
barkeep a little extra, at least they provide
a little service.Comment -
There is a social pressure to tip the dealers, and I adhere to it. But if you are playing for a living, it certainly affects your salary. If you're playing a house-edge game it sucks to have to throw more away on top of your disadvantage, but I avoid those games normally.Comment -
I tip only if I win big, I feel that the dealer just brought me luckComment -
If you are player who is known to be generous to the dealers you will get the benefit of the doubt by the manager on minor to medium disputes. Dealing is not as easy as you think. They are stuck in one place and have to smile and take shit from everyone during their shift. Good tippers also will be given "winning" advice from some dealers on a hand that could go either way. Have seen it happen many times.Comment -
I didnt know we did oops !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
I tell em look both ways when you're crossing the street
Only a moron would tip someone for robbing them, they probably laugh at your ass when you walk away busted from the tables and say what a fuckin sucker I bet hes gonna go jump off a bridge, but he was a great tipper on those 1 out of 5 winning hands I dealt himLast edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-26-11, 04:04 AM.Comment -
Maybe because the dealers make 6 bucks an hour you dikComment -
Thats alot more than the poor bastards that are playing their games are making
Not my fault they rob ppl out of 500 an hour but only get paid 6, they can quit robbin folks and get a real job if they dont like itComment -
How is a dealer at a casino "robbing folks"? The casino is meant for entertainment, too many people get this confused.Comment -
Yea losing money at a rigged game is very entertaining
Im sure thats why they've got 500 gamblers anonymous meetings in every state every week, so everyone can talk about what an entertaining time they had at the casinos
Casinos provide a drug to those that are addicted to gambling just like heroin, to the ppl that go frequently their lives are damaged or destroyed, if you believe thats their own fault for playing then so be it but I dont think they should be doing alot of tipping, the paycheck they worked their ass off for and then lost to their addiction is enough of a "tip"
Now if you only go once a year and win a couple hundred bucks sure throw em 10 bucks for dealing you the cards who cares, but whats the point of a frequent player thats being robbed by the casino games and is only ahead in the extreme short-term tipping them when the odds are rigged in the casinos favor, they should be tipping him for playing that garbage, Im sure the bookies work hard to put up baseball lines but I dont tip them when I get lucky and win a bet, even though its probably alot harder putting up those lines than it is to deal me a hand of blackjackLast edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-26-11, 04:36 AM.Comment -
Losing money at a bad movie sucks too, so does paying for a playoff ticket and watching your team lose in a blowout as well. You should know that your going to a casino to lose money. Too many people think because they know basic strategy and watched the movie 21, they are now entitled to take a casino for millions. The reality is it doesn't happen that way. If you do have an edge (play professionally) then you understand that you are going to have an extremely hard time even getting a bet down at a casino once they catch on to you. Anyway sorry for getting off topic but I think Jeffito pretty much nailed it as far as tipping goes.
Simple answer as to why there are so many gamblers anonymous meetings - they dont understand math.Last edited by Ra77er; 06-26-11, 04:40 AM.Comment -
Exactly, the guy getting robbed by the casino or eating at the overpriced restaurant is supposed to ALSO pay the labor? What the **** sense does that make and why are certain businesses allowed to pull that scam?
Okay he just bought a hamburger and fries and drinks for him and his date so he can butter her up to get some snatch after the meal, he receives his fuckin bill that looks like a medical bill for cancer treatment for some food/drinks that prolly cost the restaurant around 10 bucks total and hes expected to also pay the wages for the guy bringing the food to his table? I mean what in the ******* world?
THE WORST AND I MEAN THE FUKIN WORST IN THE WORLD is wait staff that gets you JUST your drink at a buffet, oh I want to fuckin punch them in the fuckin face when they ask me what I want to drink, they still expect the fuckin standard 20% tip just for bringing me a coke and a refill I mean **** Im already up getting my food at the buffet Im sure I can refill my own fuckin drink at the drink station which is like 10 feet from my table, also I end up with an empty glass half the time waiting to have it refilled when it would take me 5 seconds to refill it myself but I feel like Im invading the waitresses area if I go to the drink station and refill it myself, its basically just tipping someone to bother youLast edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-26-11, 05:03 AM.Comment -
Yes but if the movie sucks I dont leave money on the seat for the movie staff, if my team gets blown out I dont tip the usher
Tipping is for the birds, reservoir dogs got it right tipping is strictly for the suckers who are prolly tightass bastards every other time in life but dont want to show what a tightass bastard they are to a girl they're tryin to bangComment -
Sorry to confuse there bet, was referring to the cost of entertainment and not tipping specifically. Casino's IMHO should be viewed as entertainment. Its much the same with sports betting. Many dream of making a living as a gambler but very few actually do this. As far as tipping goes in general, my opinion is that you should always treat someone as you would wanna be treated. If you were unfortunate or perhaps not unfortunate but had to wait tables to pay for college,family, etc then I'd think your views on tipping would change significantly. If you cant afford to leave a tip for someone waiting on you why are you even going out to eat? As far as why buisnesses don't pay a higher salary and force employees to rely on tips is simply to create jobs which is a great thing imo.Comment -
I tip to the point that the dealer is on my side. Not a lot mind you, but enough to get the benefit of the doubt in a given situation. Dealers can't help me win but there has been times where they saved me some money. They have more time at the tables than I, its a small price to pay when they know my best shot is to move on. They know the quality of play at a given table, I don't have to learn the more costly way.Comment -
That's absolutely ******* ridiculous the jobs would have to exist anyway if they want to have a restaurant, the reason they pay them 2 bucks an hour and force me to tip 20% to not feel like a jackass is bc they want to keep labor costs to slave wage levels so they can line their pockets, if they gave a horses **** about their employees they wouldnt pay them 2 bucks an hour, hell I can open a business all day long paying ppl 2 bucks an hour and tell them to depend on tips for the rest and make a killing but the only businesses that can sucker the customer into paying the employees salaries is restaurants, casinos and hotels/valets
Your logic is ridiculous as well, I CAN afford to go out and buy the meal I just dont want to pay everyone's ******* salary on top of the price of my meal, when you go to Wal-Mart if they said that'll be 800 bucks for a TV and you were expected to tip 160 bucks to the guy who helped you load that 80 lb thing into your car would you say sure bc that guy doesnt make much over minimum wage, I mean why would you even buy a nice TV if you cant afford a 20% tip for the guy helpin you carry that thing out to your car
It would also create MORE jobs if ppl didnt have to pay 20% extra for tips, I would be more incline to go to a restaurant if it was 20% cheaper, the owners are creating LESS jobs but making MORE money for themselves by making the employees dependent on random tips from the customers to make a living, you are complimenting the owners for paying slave wages and basically creating a workforce of beggars, very ****** up logic you haveLast edited by bettilimbroke999; 06-26-11, 08:30 AM.Comment -
This is obviously going nowhere if your not gonna respect another man's opinion since your behind your tightwad pos ass at home. Go back to watching movies and quoting tough guy lines. You can spin it anyway you want but you don't have to tip anyone for anything in your life. I PERSONALLY think its the right thing to do. If a guy does help you carry a tv out to your car why wouldn't you want to show appreciation for the help? There is no rule behind tipping anyone at wal mart but I think its a nice gesture even if it were only a dollar. Anyway I know my logic will always be flawed in your eyes so I guess we can just agree to disagree here bud.
You said you could open a buisness and pay folks slave wages and make a killing right? How would they still work there if all the customers were like you and didnt tip?Comment -
only if I just won a big hand will I tipComment -
They couldnt, unless it was some business where the public believed they should be responsible for the businesses labor costs, see you dont seem to fuckin get that these tips do not increase their pay, they ARE the pay, you're not really "tipping" bc to me a tip is like you went out of your fuckin way to help me out so heres something extra, you went above and beyond and deserve above your normal pay bc of how fuckin outstanding you were.
But with tips at restaurant you are not rewarding them for going above and beyond you are just giving them their pay, they are not making any more than they should be paid its just the wrong person paying them, instead of the consistent paycheck for their work that they should be getting from the owner they are depending on random unreliable gifts from customers to receive pay for their work and thats bullshit, sure I could pay someone 2 bucks an hour to mow lawns and then charge 20 an hour for his work and make a killing and tell him to just beg the landowner for tips to get his pay up to where it should be, you might say Im creating jobs but is that really being reasonable, to simply have the boss keep all the profits for himself and have the customer pay the labor expenses after already having paid for the work?Comment -
i tip like $10 every few hands if im doing well. but if they dont say 'thanks', i wont tip again no matter how much i win.Comment -
Only if I win I will tip like Bobby f kComment -
Only fish tip.Comment -
i only tip if i go on a nice run with the same dealerComment -
I'd like to see tipping in casinos not be allowed at all.Comment -
It is hard enough to win
Tipping cuts into house edge even more
I would think your a jerkoff if you tip them, they are not serving you or helping you
Do you tip PSEG man because he reads your fukkin meter??
Dont tip for someone that is getting paid to do a jobComment -
Bet- Im with you here dude. I understand what your saying and I understand your reasons for being outraged at being asked to pay a tip or asked to pay an employees salary. I guess the term "tip" can be interpreted many ways but bottom line is paying the 20% as you said is a part of that employees salary. The problem you have is with the buisness itself and not the employee. If you don't appreciate the way they do buisness then why go there? If you don't understand that paying 50 employees 20% more on their check and thus charging you less would actually crush said buisness and thus force them cut back on employees, or yikes even put them out of buisness then we are not going to get anywhere dude. Buisnesses are always about making money, we can both agree on this but its not the little man that works theres fault that it works that way. Tipping a casino dealer is subjective imho. They make a flat rate and its up to the individual weather or not to tip. Im not here to argue if the dealer just raped you for your last dime and was an asshole at the table then you should float him a tip just cause your a nice guy. Im not here to argue if you should tip the electric guy for reading your meter every month. Those folks are on a salary and get paid accordingly. I think if you enjoyed yourself at the casino then tipping a dealer when you leave or after a nice hand is a fair thing to do. But Im gathering from most responses that I should've just said "yea fukk tipping anyone".Comment -
This must be why most restaurants close within 3 years. The owners made so much money using cheap labor they can afford to retire.
Anyone who's ever ran or owned a restaurant will tell you margins are small and can't afford to pay most labor anything but close to minimum wage.Comment -
This must be why most restaurants close within 3 years. The owners made so much money using cheap labor they can afford to retire.
Anyone who's ever ran or owned a restaurant will tell you margins are small and can't afford to pay most labor anything but close to minimum wage.
Dark you basically nailed what I was trying to say in one sentence. My uncle co owned a restaurant/bar and it didnt make it 3 years. He could barely bring a paycheck home for himself after paying equipment loans, overhead, licenses etc etc.Comment
