Manchester United vs Chelsea?

[DacBietViet]

Alright. On Matchbook they offer if this match will end in a draw. Its listed below:


Draw

Yes: +200
No: -224



My question is how can this game end in a draw when its the championship game. There has to be a winner. Any reason not to pound the No.

[AgainstAllOdds]

Its probably says somewhere in there " Does not include extra time or injury time" which would mean if its a tie at the end of 90 minutes...you lose

[gordon gekko]

Manchester United wins I have them at +145 its a lock.

[Francis Sollozzo]

Its probably says somewhere in there " Does not include extra time or injury time" which would mean if its a tie at the end of 90 minutes...you lose

90 mins is correct

[DacBietViet]

Its probably says somewhere in there " Does not include extra time or injury time"

No. All it says is DRAW and Yes or No.

[DacBietViet]

nevermind. you guys are correct


wagers are for ninety (90) minutes of play,

[pico]

90 mins is correct

not extactly...90 plus added time

[smallon]

I'm interested in this match-up. I've got Man U and also the under, under 2. I'm hoping Man U pulls through....we shall see.

[j$]

a draw means a draw through 90 min I think no extra time included ....so someone will win Im sure

[fingas]

you guys really don't bet much on soccer, right?

Moneylines for soccer matches always are related to the 90 minutes plus stoppage time or injury time.

It can end with a draw, yes.

But since it's the last match, if there's a draw, then an Extra-time of 15 minutes with 2 halves will be played.
If the match continues as a draw after that Extra-time, then they will go for penalty kicks and the winner will be the team who scores more penalty kicks.

[LT Profits]

All Soccer bets are for regulation plus injury time only unless otherwise specified.

In fact, 3-way betting (which included Draw option) are always reg + inj only.

Bets such as "to advance" or "to win championship" are based on final score including overtime + penalty kicks.

[jgm1967]

you guys really don't bet much on soccer, right?

Moneylines for soccer matches always are related to the 90 minutes plus stoppage time or injury time.

It can end with a draw, yes.

But since it's the last match, if there's a draw, then an Extra-time of 15 minutes with 2 halves will be played.
If the match continues as a draw after that Extra-time, then they will go for penalty kicks and the winner will be the team who scores more penalty kicks.

this is why alot of americans don't wager on soccer though.

DRAWS!!!!!!!

its hard enough picking one side ,much less having another option in losing with a draw.at least for this championship game most books have the option of a regulation time wager and at least this game doesnt just end up in a tie.

I really think this will be a snoozer and a low scoring one.we will see.i got under 2.5 at vip

cheers

[fingas]

if you don't want to bet on 1x2 odds, then bet on asian handicaps that uses 0.5 points in the teams, this way you bet in normal matches and the draw option is also covered by that

[jgm1967]

My only problem fingas are books that cater to americans rarely have that option.i think 5 dimes is one of the few. having pinnacle pull out was disaster for alot of sports.I know my friends in europe use bet365 and have alot more in game wagering in alot of their books.

the one thing great about today is that most of the books,even the ones who have americans as customers, will have alot of props and live wagering

cheers

[fingas]

of course european bookies have more options for soccer, the same can be said to the lower basketball leagues, probably you'll get better prices in ncca's matches while we mainly bet on soccer and tennis and this way get worse prices in those basket matches.

Even if you don't have asian handicaps for those soccer matches, you can create your own handicap.
Just back 1 and X adjusting the amounts to bet so that you can win the same in the end.

Or back x and 2

Or back 1 and 2

I usually do this to check if it's more profitable to back the asian handicap or simple back match odds options.

[Wilforth]

It's not likely to end in a draw.
Plus, having lost the Premiership narrowly to Manchester United, I'm tipping Chelsea to win this one. Chelsea often comes up on top as underdogs.

These two sides have the best defenses in the English Premiership and concede less than a goal per match, which makes the under very likely, but the striking power of these two sides can tip the total on the side of the over.
Most Champions League finals end in regulation time and a narrow win. But Chelsea often score in the first half. So in the event of a Chelsea win, expect a 1-0 or 2-1 scoreline. That's the risk with the under.

I'm going with a Chelsea win because Manchester United has a way of bottling up in matches like these when they are favorites.

[jgm1967]

of course european bookies have more options for soccer, the same can be said to the lower basketball leagues, probably you'll get better prices in ncca's matches while we mainly bet on soccer and tennis and this way get worse prices in those basket matches.

Even if you don't have asian handicaps for those soccer matches, you can create your own handicap.
Just back 1 and X adjusting the amounts to bet so that you can win the same in the end.

Or back x and 2

Or back 1 and 2

I usually do this to check if it's more profitable to back the asian handicap or simple back match odds options.

fingas ,interesting post.could you explain this a little more
lets just for say we have the odds for a match

wigan+100

liverpool -200

draw +200

how would you wager this, obviously these are made up lines but i would love to be able to use my normal books instead of 5 dimes but the draw has always kept me from wagering alot on soccer.

today at least in the championship I have other options from my book but alot of times they don't have a +.5/-.5 wager.

thanks for any help

cheers

[Wilforth]

Alright. On Matchbook they offer if this match will end in a draw. Its listed below:


Draw

Yes: +200
No: -224



My question is how can this game end in a draw when its the championship game. There has to be a winner. Any reason not to pound the No.

Yes it could end in a draw in regulation time (90 minutes plus time added for stoppages) if scores are even.
But I think this one won't end in a draw.

[bettilimbroke999]

The draw loss does make soccer much less appealing, it's highly possible for this game to be either 0-0 or 1-1 after reg. time and in all honesty the draw at +210 isn't looking that bad right now

[fiveteamer]

This score will be 1-0. First goal wins. Maybe a late goal on the counter attack.

[Wrigley]

do more people watch this then the Superbowl, isnt this soccers version of the super bowl.

[dmmd98]

do more people watch this then the Superbowl, isnt this soccers version of the super bowl.

Generally yes however last years Super Bowl did a huge number. Then again two huge teams are playing in this years CL final. Also yes it's European soccers version of the Super Bowl.

[topgame85]

Manchester untied 2-0 win

[fingas]

I use european odds, hope you understand them from the example i'm giving.

For example, for tonight's final between Man Utd and Chelsea, their match odds at betfair (you can take another bookie of course):

Man Utd - 2.74
Draw - 3.15
Chelsea -3.1

All together gives a book of 100.5%
(of course you should take in consideration the commission they charge)

Say that for example, that there isn't any option for betting on the handicap 0.5.

So you can do this:
-get a calculator and see how much you need to bet on the option you want, i often use this one on the multiback option

http://www.arbcruncher.com/free_online_betting_calculator.asp

For a total stake of 100 units, and if i want to bet on manchester winning or drawing then:

53.48 units in manchester
46.52 units in the draw

Overall, that you'll give me 46.54 units of profit.

If i think chelsea can win or manage the draw, then the 100 units are distributed:

50.40 units at chelsea
49.6 units at the draw

Overall, a profit of 56.24 units.

If you think that this match will never end in a draw in the 90 minutes then back manchester and chelsea:

46.92 units in chelsea
53.08 units in manchester

Overall, profit of 45.44 units

In this case, at betfair you have also the option of betting in the handicap +0.5/-0.5, if you check the prices:

Manchester -0.5 is at 2.74 (same odds as the match odds for manchester to win)

And chelsea + 0.5 is at 1.57 (which is a better option that betting like i demonstrate above where overall backing chelsea and the draw only gives us an average odd of 1.5624 so backing chelsea +0.5 is better option in this case)

[UncleChris]

The outcome of this match mostly depends on how Chelsea is able to deal with Christiano Ronaldo.

[dmmd98]

The outcome of this match mostly depends on how Chelsea is able to deal with Christiano Ronaldo.

Cashley Cole has a history of dealing with him well. However Cole got injured yesterday in training so he'll come into the game less then 100%.

[bettilimbroke999]

Is soccer more boring than watching paint dry?

Yes -200000

[fingas]

i would say watching an endless baseball match it's more boring than watching a soccer match

[topgame85]

a good soccer match is not boring but with all the teams most are not good

[Shark79]

Beleive it !!

[Shark79]

do more people watch this then the Superbowl, isnt this soccers version of the super bowl.

I would say the World Cup Final would be the version of SB

Its the biggest event in both sports

[UncleChris]

Guess it all depends on the course of an sport event. I always thought football is kind of boring (don't beat me..i am from europe). Just wachted the superbowls for years and even that supposed to be "super" bowls were quite boring to me. BUT then there was the Giants vs Pats bowl. I cannot say if I was ever so thrilled by any other sport event before. Probably not.

[Shark79]

Is soccer more boring than watching paint dry?

Yes -200000
No -400000

[dmmd98]

I would say the World Cup Final would be the version of SB

Its the biggest event in both sports

There is nothing like the World Cup. There isn't another sporting event that compares.

I do see your point however, the biggest stage in Football matching up with the biggest stage in Soccer.

Football as in most North American sports its a civic thing. Boston wants the oneupmanship over New York etc.

As I don't have to tell you the World Cup is a display of national pride as play through a game. Silly as that may be to some. It's truly the World Cup and its only every four years which adds to the heartbreak and for the precious few countries that have won it the Joy of seeing a Cannavaro, Dunga, Maradona, Pele etc lift the game's ultimate prize. The World Cup to Super Bowl is very much apples to oranges.

[daggerkobe]

Is soccer more boring than watching paint dry?

Yes -200000

Agreed.

I hate soccer unless it's the World Cup. Made a lot of money betting on it.

But this matchup does intrigue me..... Man U -.5 +135 looks like the way to go.