Manchester United vs Chelsea?

[Dark Horse]

The field is a mess. Just put in over an older field, grass didn't have time to root, and it's been raining like crazy. This will definitely affect the game.

Not sure if it will be as bad as that Steelers game last season that ended with a single FG.

[Shark79]

There is nothing like the World Cup. There isn't another sporting event that compares.

I do see your point however, the biggest stage in Football matching up with the biggest stage in Soccer.

Football as in most North American sports its a civic thing. Boston wants the oneupmanship over New York etc.

As I don't have to tell you the World Cup is a display of national pride as play through a game. Silly as that may be to some. It's truly the World Cup and its only every four years which adds to the heartbreak and for the precious few countries that have won it the Joy of seeing a Cannavaro, Dunga, Maradona, Pele etc lift the game's ultimate prize. The World Cup to Super Bowl is very much apples to oranges.

I agree with your point.

But the comparisson as to the importance of each game is where I would compare. Yet again, winning a World Cup is the biggest pride any country can have. It simply tells the world ur the best.

I agree I have seen world cups since ´86 and it just gets better every 4 yrs. Costa Rica has now made it 3 times to this event ... and everytime they have played ... the whole country stops completely for a period of 90 + mins. It doesnt get better

Now back to this Chelsea - Man U matchup ... Man Utd has been in 133 Champions matchs vrs 66 of Chelsea .... Man Utd has won the event twice vrs 0 for the blues ..... but I do beleive that Drogba and Ballack syncronize properly tonite ... it will be Chelsea holding the cup at the end

[Wrigley]

Generally yes however last years Super Bowl did a huge number. Then again two huge teams are playing in this years CL final. Also yes it's European soccers version of the Super Bowl.

Thanks dmmd, I might have to tune in I actual enjoy world cup soccer. Sounds like a good matchup

[daggerkobe]

UEFA Champions League - To Lift The Trophy

8076
Manchester United

-
-130

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UEFA Champions League Final

8070
Manchester United

Pick (-140)


Aren't they the same thing?

[dmmd98]

Thanks dmmd, I might have to tune in I actual enjoy world cup soccer. Sounds like a good matchup

It's a match up that has many sub plots. The whole Ronaldo big game theory. It's also the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster for Manchester United so it would be bittersweet for them to win it.

The owner of Chelsea pretty much owns Moscow, Chelsea are clearly the home team going into this contest. Chelsea coach Avram Grant pretty much coming from out of the blue (he was an assistant coach at Portsmouth last year) to lead Chelsea to the CL final that Mourinho wasn't about to do in his time at Chelsea. Etc Etc

That being said hope its better then last years FA Cup final between the two which was a dog of a game won 1-0 in extra time by Chelsea.

Drama won't be lacking however

[BuddyBear]

Any chance this match has more than 2.5 goals?

[Shark79]

Any chance this match has more than 2.5 goals?

I doubt it ... but it will be a very conservative game for the first 15 - 20 mins thats for sure

[dmmd98]

UEFA Champions League - To Lift The Trophy

8076
Manchester United

-
-130

-


UEFA Champions League Final

8070
Manchester United

Pick (-140)


Aren't they the same thing?

No its two different bets

The first one -140

in Moscow. 90 minutes + Injury time. Extra time and penalties do not count. Please see Props/Specials for more markets on this match.

If the game is tied heading into the 30 minutes of extra time its a push and you get your money back.

On the other -130 wager if its a tie after the first 90 minutes and in either the 30 minutes of extra time or in penalties if Chelsea win your ticket is a loser.

[topgame85]

Is nobody playing the over? From my research it looks like if it goes under the books will get hammered

[Wilforth]

The outcome of this match mostly depends on how Chelsea is able to deal with Christiano Ronaldo.

Ronaldo won't be a problem today for Chelsea since Ashley Cole (Chelsea defender) is playing. Cole is good at neutralizing Ronaldo. Plus, Ronaldo often bottles up in big games.

[Wilforth]

The most certain thing about this match is for first half goals to go under 1.5. If you can get that, that's a gift.

[fingas]

If you guys like the World Cup then you have the EURO championship in a few days too.

Mostly all the big nations in soccer will bet there

[topgame85]

I think I may play the over just for the hell of it parlay MU and the over

[pico]

asian handicap 101

http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicapper-think-tank/73361-situation-i-found-myself.html

[Shark79]

If you guys like the World Cup then you have the EURO championship in a few days too.

Mostly all the big nations in soccer will bet there

This will be held in June ... Getting ready for it !!!

[pico]

This will be held in June ... Getting ready for it !!!

as long as the french don't win, i am okay with it.

[Shark79]

as long as the french don't win, i am okay with it.

Sooooooooo true!!

Cheering for Spain .... but they ALWAYS choke

[jgm1967]

I use european odds, hope you understand them from the example i'm giving.

For example, for tonight's final between Man Utd and Chelsea, their match odds at betfair (you can take another bookie of course):

Man Utd - 2.74
Draw - 3.15
Chelsea -3.1

All together gives a book of 100.5%
(of course you should take in consideration the commission they charge)

Say that for example, that there isn't any option for betting on the handicap 0.5.

So you can do this:
-get a calculator and see how much you need to bet on the option you want, i often use this one on the multiback option

http://www.arbcruncher.com/free_online_betting_calculator.asp

For a total stake of 100 units, and if i want to bet on manchester winning or drawing then:

53.48 units in manchester
46.52 units in the draw

Overall, that you'll give me 46.54 units of profit.

If i think chelsea can win or manage the draw, then the 100 units are distributed:

50.40 units at chelsea
49.6 units at the draw

Overall, a profit of 56.24 units.

If you think that this match will never end in a draw in the 90 minutes then back manchester and chelsea:

46.92 units in chelsea
53.08 units in manchester

Overall, profit of 45.44 units

In this case, at betfair you have also the option of betting in the handicap +0.5/-0.5, if you check the prices:

Manchester -0.5 is at 2.74 (same odds as the match odds for manchester to win)

And chelsea + 0.5 is at 1.57 (which is a better option that betting like i demonstrate above where overall backing chelsea and the draw only gives us an average odd of 1.5624 so backing chelsea +0.5 is better option in this case)

thanks fingas,I am going to print this out .This is really a big help,thanks again

cheers

[daggerkobe]

No its two different bets

The first one -140

in Moscow. 90 minutes + Injury time. Extra time and penalties do not count. Please see Props/Specials for more markets on this match.

If the game is tied heading into the 30 minutes of extra time its a push and you get your money back.

On the other -130 wager if its a tie after the first 90 minutes and in either the 30 minutes of extra time or in penalties if Chelsea win your ticket is a loser.

Oh, I get it now.

I am putting $500 on Man U to raise the trophy. It's gone up to -140 now though.

[pico]

Oh, I get it now.

I am putting $500 on Man U to raise the trophy. It's gone up to -140 now though.

it did not go up. you just have a shitty book for soccer.

[daggerkobe]

What do you mean it didn't go up? It was -130 earlier and now it's -140.

It's Bodog so I can't argue about the bad lines.

[daggerkobe]

Checked a few other books:

Bookmaker -140
Betjm -142

[fingas]

1.87 at betfair

but in the other bookies it's about 1.75 average

[SSLP]

Laying $2500
on Chelsea pay plus 200

Chelsea is the pick , the over seems good as well.

On my way to the pub good luck

[fingas]

ManU to Raise the Trophy pk -119

on pinnacle

[daggerkobe]

Good thing it's on ESPN² or I'd go crazy waiting for updates.

[FreeFall]

I took chelsea if anyone cares.

[nasdaq888]

Going for MU to WIN the 2007-08 UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Odds: 1.87

GO RED DEVILS !!! GLORY GLORY MAN UTD !!!

[Dark Horse]

Good match so far. Thought I'd lost my 1H wager for a tie.

Leaning towards Chelsea winning this game in the last minute. Even though ManU is the better team.

[McBa1n]

It's not bad, lots of exciting plays. 2nd half starting off kinda blah tho...but to be expected. I wish there was a prop for Ronaldo dives, though... Something to really cheer for.

[Dark Horse]

Looks like Van der Sar slipped on the bad pitch for the Chelsea goal. Hard to believe that the most important game is played on a field like this. Game getting impossible to watch.

[McBa1n]

I'm with that. It's been brutal. No one is even making runs.

[j$]

**** off the post for the win...just missed it

[j$]

Whos gonna win this in Extra time soccer sharps?

[Francis Sollozzo]

Alright. On Matchbook they offer if this match will end in a draw. Its listed below:


Draw

Yes: +200
No: -224



My question is how can this game end in a draw when its the championship game. There has to be a winner. Any reason not to pound the No.