Originally posted by Wrigley
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Pretty easy ... they have Portuguese, Spanish, Nigerian, etc .. and just a few england playersComment -
The EPL is the best league in the due largely due to the foreign influence that has occurred in the last ten years. I could wrote a long post about this. So many factors come into play.Originally posted by Wrigley
1) Ignorance - England make excuses when they lose. When France didn't make the 94 World Cup the French FA overhaul how they develop young talent. Setting up top class youth academies, improving coaching etc.
England goes into a match up against Croatia thinking they have they ticket punched to Euro 2008. All England had to do was tie and they were in. In a game that Croatia had nothing to play for they won 3-2 in London to knock them out.
2) Coaching was also a factor, they previous coach was learning on the fly and that proved to be fatal. He was over matched.
3) Personal opinion but few English players play outside of England hence they really only know how to play one way. With so many foreign playing in England they are well adjusted to the English style of play.Comment -
You are wrong Shark !!! MU were the better team in the 1st half....MU could have gone 2 or 3 up, then Chelsea got a lucky break with their equaliser. Chelsea were the better team in 2nd half but MU had their chances in extra time especially with Giggs shot which was cleared off the line by John Terry.Originally posted by Shark79
From MU's Community Shield victory over Chelsea in August to the Champions League, MU have been better and more consistent compared to Chelsea for over the course of the 2007-2008 season. No one will doubt that. MU are the Champions of England and Europe this season.
Isn't it ironic that the Red Devils have won there 3rd Champions League/European Cup title on the 50th year Anniversary of the Munich disaster and 40 years after they first won it in 1968.
To tell you the truth I was a bit surprised to see John Terry stepped up to take the penalty pick....John Terry is not a regular penalty taker.
Yeah I can't wait for EURO 2008 to begin but we have the Copa Italia Final this Saturday between Roma and Inter...would love for Inter to win the double this season too. FORZA NERAZZURI !!!Attached FilesComment -
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We see it like we want to see it ... I personally think that Chelsea deserved the win ... yes MU had there chances in 1st half ... but I saw a much better prepared Chelsea during the 2nd half.
About that Italian final .... Inter to win ... no doubt
And then off to one of the most important events in football ... EURO '08!!Comment -
It was an entertaining final though. Most people had thought the Final would have been a dull stalemate.Originally posted by Shark79
Yeah can't for the EUROs....the deadline for the EURO team selection is due on 28 May. Already there are a few controversial decisions made by the team managers....France leaving out Trezequet, Spain not selecting Raul, Italy dropping Inzaghi.....Comment -
Portugal not taking Maniche ... and so many others to be revealedComment -
And how that is different from NHL?Originally posted by WrigleyComment -
I disagree. UEFA LC final is a Super Bowl equivalent. The LC and SB finals draw roughly equal TV audience of 50 - 100 million viewers. WC TV audience exceeds 1 billion.Originally posted by Shark79Comment -
The NHL is a hockey league. They play football in the EPL. There's no comparison really.Originally posted by DataComment -
Sorry, but I disagree. The Champions League final is watched by people around the world and its result matters to viewers in dozens of countries. Teams from many different countries compete for the Champions League title.Originally posted by Data
The Super Bowl is, like the World Series, an example of how Americans exaggerate their own importance. The Super Bowl is not watched to any great extent by anyone outside of America. Teams from only one country compete in it and no other country even plays the same sport.
People from Portugal, for instance, never dream of playing in a Super Bowl. But they do dream of playing in the CL final or in the WC, and do.
I think the greatest learning experience Americans can have is to live abroad and realize that, aside from the fear that they or someone they love will be murdered on the orders of a cocaine addicted war criminal, the rest of the population of the world really doesn't have much interest in the US at all.
They claim to be the greatest force for democracy in the world, yet they allowed the man who lost the election to be president for four years.Comment -
Marco C, I appreciate the time it took to comment on my two posts, sir. However, I must tell you that in each of those messages I made only one point and your comments were related to neither of those.
On a side note, a do not share your views you expressed in a second post that 50 million people in one country are less important than 50 million people in many different countries. It is ironic that arguing with an idea of inequality you are actually promoting it.Comment -
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The superbowl or world series would be the equivalent of any major national sporting event such as a national cup final, but cannot be compared to the Champions League final or the World Cup which are truely international events.Comment -
The SB is perfectly comparable to the CL finale. In terms of single game magnitude. Both games are aired in many countries across the world.
Obviously, the WC soccer is a month long tournament that the whole soccer world turns into, plus it is held every four years. The only viable comparison there are the Olympics. But the World Cup is one sport, which intensifies that Olympic angle for those who follow the tournament.Comment -
Unlike the names suggests the Champions League is not for champions. It is a spin-off of the European Cup 1, which was truly for national champions and offered much more interesting competition. Today's CL is a purely commercial event, that gives countries such as Italy, Spain, and England more entry tickets than smaller competitions. A typical example of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. This is why you always see the same teams competing for the trophy (the number three spot in Spain will get you in, so obviously Real Madrid and Barcelona will always be there). Participation in the CL tournament brings in many millions, which allows these teams to buy up the best players from teams that happen to play in the weaker competitions. And no soccer fan is waiting for a final between two English teams (other than the English). The CL is extremely boring for soccer traditionalists, but the tournament is financially successful, and the UEFA doesn't care beyond that.Comment -
I guess my point is that 50 million people, or 250 million, aren't MORE important than the rest of the world.Originally posted by Data
Otherwise, point taken.Comment
