RebateWager Exchange: $1,000 Beta Contest for Conference Tournaments

**hhsilver** · 03-09-11, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

The crybabies on this forum just continue to amaze me

A contest to test something that is free

All you poor souls that put so many hours into this that you will never get back .........

Get a ................. LIFE !!!!!

I agree with this. Well said. This was a test. Some of wanted to be part of this test hoping for a replacement for matchbook as soon as possible. The chances of finishing in the top 3 were pretty remote and I think most went into this to help Ganch with this venture which, if successful, will benefit us all for a long time. I hope for most of us the prizes were secondary -- or way below secondary. Whining about prizes for a positive balance after 1.5 days is lame. Some of us laid back planning to go "all in" late. Standings at this point mean little. How many early chip leaders in these poker tourneys finish in the top 3? some do. Some don't.

Fishhead, I'm very surprised that a free play means that much to you. ( I know - you're a grinder)

**THEGREAT30** · 03-09-11, 08:03 PM

I agree that everyone should receive a FP because the leaderboard is inaccurate if it does not include today's games, very unfair and amateur like way to settle things, or do business, but at the end of the day stating your opinion is not going to help because the company and people like Pokernut who I now see is a pure shill for RebateWager and everything that concerns them will just turn you expressing your opinion into you complaining. That may be the best thing that comes out of this to those of us that wasted our time. We now know to ignore Pokernuts opinion on RW because rather he owns a stake in the company or is just a over zealous fan he will not call it like it is with the company.

**pokernut9999** · 03-09-11, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Try this argument in Vegas and run it through Gaming Control Boards hands and see how you make out as a casino owner/manager.

It is a free contest , only idiots would complain and brag about all the hours put into it

Try comparing it to something in the same ball park

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by hhsilver

I agree with this. Well said. This was a test. Some of wanted to be part of this test hoping for a replacement for matchbook as soon as possible. The chances of finishing in the top 3 were pretty remote and I think most went into this to help Ganch with this venture which, if successful, will benefit us all for a long time. I hope for most of us the prizes were secondary -- or way below secondary. Whining about prizes for a positive balance after 1.5 days is lame. Some of us laid back planning to go "all in" late. Standings at this point mean little. How many early chip leaders in these poker tourneys finish in the top 3? some do. Some don't.

Fishhead, I'm very surprised that a free play means that much to you. ( I know - you're a grinder)

Not about me, I will be more than happy to pass what is PROPERLY owed my to each one of the particpants............

Principal, not rewards for me HH

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

I agree that everyone should receive a FP because the leaderboard is inaccurate if it does not include today's games, very unfair and amateur like way to settle things, or do business, but at the end of the day stating your opinion is not going to help because the company and people like Pokernut who I now see is a pure shill for RebateWager and everything that concerns them will just turn you expressing your opinion into you complaining. That may be the best thing that comes out of this to those of us that wasted our time. We now know to ignore Pokernuts opinion on RW because rather he owns a stake in the company or is just a over zealous fan he will not call it like it is with the company.

Agree

Pokernutts PRO BOOK stances are growing old............Gawd forbid if he ever sticks up for you guys on this side of the counter, STOP THE PRESSES when this occrs........and if it involves the gang at RW, send it to CNN.

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 08:08 PM

All you crybabies are pathetic

**pokernut9999** · 03-09-11, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Agree

Pokernutts PRO BOOK stances are growing old............Gawd forbid if he ever sticks up for you guys on this side of the counter, STOP THE PRESSES when this occrs........and if it involves the gang at RW, send it to CNN.

When you ever have a legitimate complaint , you sound pretty lame with all the others.

Funny how you dont bash Ganch

Try attacking his post big boy

**secretstash** · 03-09-11, 08:14 PM

This is crazy...I won huge on uconn...unreal and unexceptable... why erase balances?

-stash

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by secretstash

this is crazy...i won huge on uconn...unreal and unexceptable... why erase balances?

-stash

Excellent question

**Ganchrow** · 03-09-11, 08:20 PM

OK here's what I think we'll do. I believe that this represents the most fair option.

All players with current bankrolls (after I grade all of today;s wagers) of $10k or more will be allowed to continue with those bankrolls.

All players with bankrolls under $10k will have their bankrolls reset to $10,000.

Fair?

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

OK here's what I think we'll do. I believe that this represents the most fair option.

All players with current bankrolls (after grading) of $10k or more will be allowed to continue with those bankrolls.

All players with bankrolls under $10k will have their bankrolls reset to $10,000.

Fair?

That seems very reasonable......................and is choked full of commonsense.

**THEGREAT30** · 03-09-11, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

OK here's what I think we'll do. I believe that this represents the most fair option.

All players with current bankrolls (after I grade all of today;s wagers) of $10k or more will be allowed to continue with those bankrolls.

All players with bankrolls under $10k will have their bankrolls reset to $10,000.

Fair?

Probably the most fair thing you are willing to do sir

**pokernut9999** · 03-09-11, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

That seems very reasonable......................and is choked full of commonsense.

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**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

Not fair at all , my bankroll is far less than 10k and I would not want to be given anything extra

I refuse to be given anything I did not earn

This is very true......the leaders are still taking it on the chin, you make a very valid point.

**pokernut9999** · 03-09-11, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

OK here's what I think we'll do. I believe that this represents the most fair option.

All players with current bankrolls (after I grade all of today;s wagers) of $10k or more will be allowed to continue with those bankrolls.

All players with bankrolls under $10k will have their bankrolls reset to $10,000.

Fair?

My bankroll is less than 10k , and I do not want anything I did not earn

I know I put in about 3 minutes of my valuable time that can not be replaced , but I doubt I could sleep tonight knowing my losing wagers were voided.

**Ganchrow** · 03-09-11, 08:39 PM

Come on guys I just want to do the right thing here and I want to do it QUICKLY.

So that's what we're going with ... balances higher than $10K stay as is, balances lower than $10K get reset to the starting figure.

All in good faith ...

**THEGREAT30** · 03-09-11, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

Come on guys I just want to do the right thing here and I want to do it QUICKLY.

So that's what we're going with ... balances higher than $10K stay as is, balances lower than $10K get reset to the starting figure.

All in good faith ...

If you think that's as near to fair as you will get go for it, but the only fair way to do this is compensate everyone for there time and move on, because someone I am sure had blown there whole load and deserves to be set at what they earned, $0 out of the contest, but you could argue that there time spent helped you see this first set of issues and they should still be compensated just not with being reset as if they did not blow there load. My advice is to do what you are going to do and live with it. You were right not everyone is going to like this, unless you give everyone FP's

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

Come on guys I just want to do the right thing here and I want to do it QUICKLY.

So that's what we're going with ... balances higher than $10K stay as is, balances lower than $10K get reset to the starting figure.

All in good faith ...

That's fair, and overly fair for ALL the participants.

Nicely done

But I can understand a few, like THEGREAT30, being upset.

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

Come on guys I just want to do the right thing here and I want to do it QUICKLY.

So that's what we're going with ... balances higher than $10K stay as is, balances lower than $10K get reset to the starting figure.

All in good faith ...

You dont need to cater to these ******* cry babies. You do as you see fit and thats that. Its a free ******* contest!!!! All the cry babies need to Stop bitching!!

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

That's fair, and overly fair for ALL the participants.

Nicely done

But I can understand a few, like THEGREAT30, being upset.

Secretstash has a LEGITIMATE beef also.........

These posters do not and should not be riddiculed for their stances and beliefs......................

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Secretstash has a LEGITIMATE beef also.........

These posters do not and should not be riddiculed for their stances and beliefs......................

If it was a contest that they paid to get in then yes I understand and they should have a LEGITIMATE beef. But seriously man its a a free contestu no one deserve any sympathy for spending countless hours in free beta test contest

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Gio21

If it was a contest that they paid to get in then yes I understand and they should have a LEGITIMATE beef. But seriously man its a a free contestu no one deserve any sympathy for spending countless hours in free beta test contest

I respectfully disagree...............

**thechaoz** · 03-09-11, 09:02 PM

Can I still get in today?

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

I respectfully disagree...............

Of course you do you are the MAIN one crying about this

**ROYAJA8** · 03-09-11, 09:05 PM

I say the people who already blew there 10,000 should be out of the contest. Don't give them another chance.

**ThaddeusB** · 03-09-11, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Ganchrow

OK here's what I think we'll do. I believe that this represents the most fair option.

All players with current bankrolls (after I grade all of today;s wagers) of $10k or more will be allowed to continue with those bankrolls.

All players with bankrolls under $10k will have their bankrolls reset to $10,000.

Fair?

This is far superior to resetting everyone, but what exactly is the rationale for resting those who are below 10k? All the power outage did was prevent people from making bets - it didn't make people lose games.

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Gio21

Of course you do you are the MAIN one crying about this

Not crying, supporting those that earned a high spot in the contest and are disenchanted..........

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Not crying, supporting those that earned a high spot in the contest.

Cool so you are the PR rep. I understand now!

**FourLengthsClear** · 03-09-11, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by ThaddeusB

This is far superior to resetting everyone, but what exactly is the rationale for resting those who are below 10k? All the power outage did was prevent people from making bets - it didn't make people lose games.

I am guessing to have as many participants as possible in order to maximise 'liquidity'.

**dikefale** · 03-09-11, 09:14 PM

I think that contestants need to be restored at exact amount that they had,otherwise its not regular/fair.
But i can understand this move because wee need more liquidity at exchange.

Somebody will again start with whining story,but as Fishhead stated its just to principles.

**THEGREAT30** · 03-09-11, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

I am guessing to have as many participants as possible in order to maximise 'liquidity'.

Yes, and that thought alone points to why everyone should be compensated because they need everyone they can get to see how the system will handle it. So, everyone helped them see there faults. I am not running this business but if I were I would reward $500 in FP's for those that dealt with the 1st 2 days then the other $500 at the end of the contest. I think that is a better solution than to give people another chance by acting like they did not blow there loads when they did. Just break the contest up into two different rounds, but this is just healthy discussion at this point. I see that my account is somewhere near where it should be so they have made there decision which is fine by me it is not about being fair.

**Gio21** · 03-09-11, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

Yes, and that thought alone points to why everyone should be compensated because they need everyone they can get to see how the system will handle it. So, everyone helped them see there faults. I am not running this business but if I were I would reward $500 in FP's for those that dealt with the 1st 2 days then the other $500 at the end of the contest. I think that is a better solution than to give people another chance by acting like they did not blow there loads when they did. Just break the contest up into two different rounds, but this is just healthy discussion at this point. I see that my account is somewhere near where it should be so they have made there decision which is fine by me it is not about being fair.

Thats part of beta testing to find out the flaws! the fact that they are are offering a prize at the end is a nice bonus and im sure if there were no prize at the end they would have had plenty of people signing up to try out a new service. Your time is not worth $500 in FP if you have all day to sit in front of your computer and make bets with fake money and then expect a red carpet thrown in front of you for having no life. You are unbelievable

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Gio21

Thats part of beta testing to find out the flaws! the fact that they are are offering a prize at the end is a nice bonus and im sure if there were no prize at the end they would have had plenty of people signing up to try out a new service. Your time is not worth $500 in FP if you have all day to sit in front of your computer and make bets with fake money and then expect a red carpet thrown in front of you for having no life. You are unbelievable

What about the guy in first place that hedged his play with say 50 bucks on the opposite of his matched play in contest........he or she is out 50 BUCKS........this is ONE reason why the contest being free has no bearing on the PRINCIPLES that should be intituted

**durito** · 03-09-11, 09:39 PM

Your best business move would be to ban fishhead from playing.

**Fishhead** · 03-09-11, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by durito

Your best business move would be to ban fishhead from playing.

You finally made a funny...

Took you nearly 5 years, but congrats.