Matchbook leaving the US

[heyman]

They are just shadowing Pinny lines, though.

Pinnacle + less juice. That's the point.

[RealSlimShady]

Pinnacle + less juice. That's the point.

It's great right now for customers who can still play there. Not sure if owner will continue to seed the market with such narrow margins down the line. If he wanted to do that, he would open a -105 shop and make more $ instead. At some point, there has to be more customers to improve liquidity natually.

[jackkkk2009]

Pinnacle + less juice. That's the point.

pinnacle & matchbook were competing business before, that's why pinny bought matchy?

[FourLengthsClear]

What do you think was happening before?

There was a correlation, no doubt but the lines here are all just Pinny plus one cent.

Pinnacle + less juice. That's the point.

Accepting one of those offers (one cent better than the Pinny) line and paying the commission would leave me slightly worse off. There is no genuine liquidity here.

[ipirate007]

oops one more bites the dust

[the sink]

just when i thought i was out they pull me back in
rockets +2.5 +105 $$

[Snowball]

never got into the matchbook concept
seemed shady to me

good luck everyone who won, getting their monies.

if you can't beat a straight vegas line you don't belong gambling.

[John Dough]

if you can't beat a straight vegas line you don't belong gambling.

If you choose to bet into full juice when better lines are available you don't belong gambling.

[jjgold]

matchbook was a small dot on the map in the offshore gambling world

it was a small club of bonus whores and scalpers

[heyman]

Accepting one of those offers (one cent better than the Pinny) line and paying the commission would leave me slightly worse off. There is no genuine liquidity here.

You quoted this:
+100/-101 -> -102.02/-103.03
+100/-104 -> -102.02/-106.06

5c and 8c lines vs. 10c at Pinnacle. Pinnacle + less juice.

[FourLengthsClear]

You quoted this:
+100/-101 -> -102.02/-103.03
+100/-104 -> -102.02/-106.06

5c and 8c lines vs. 10c at Pinnacle. Pinnacle + less juice.

In that screenshot, yes you are correct.
That is not representative of what I have been seeing all day long, though.

I actually put some offers up yesterday with 6c spread on 3 NBA matchups and got barely nibbles.

[Hareeba!]

matchbook was a small dot on the map in the offshore gambling world

it was a small club of bonus whores and scalpers

Matchbook has been and still is a significant part of my business.

I got several bets there today on NBA at better odds than at Pinnacle.

And I resent being called a bonus whore or scalper.

What's your agenda in continuing to post negative stuff about MB?

[KGambler]

What's your agenda in continuing to post negative stuff about MB?

He's just clueless. If you want to see how much of a dinosaur he really is, mention gambling on fantasy sports (which is now legal in the U.S. and has a huge future)...

[Nicky Santoro]

i don't get you guys. so what if the owner is putting up those offers. who the fukk cares.. do you prefer if a regular guy is putting it up. who cares. it's the same shit. as long as i get paid, that's what matters. who the fukk cares if it's the owner. i don't get you guys..


i swear in the POR/SAC game.. with about 15 min to go.. it was a tight 1 cent line on the spread and there was 27,000$ each way to bet. and the moneyline was unreal. there was 44,000$ on POR available and it was 16 cents better than pinny at the time.

matchy is not the same as it used to be. it's 122x better than it ever was, including 2007..

[the sink]

portland -3.5 was +101 at matchbook and sacramento +3.5 +102 at pinnacle and this was not for just a second
I got down 5figures on houston +2.5

[Anthonyk99]

cant belive theyre gone no more base ball=(

[heyman]

What's your agenda in continuing to post negative stuff about MB?

He's just clueless.

You'd think claiming Rebatewager is a top 3 book should disqualify someone from talking about lack of liquidity...

And I resent being called a bonus whore or scalper.

Agreed. Some people think that if they can't do something, no one can. To them there is no difference between -110 and -102 in the end.

[Salamander]

Are book-to-book transfers still available for non-U.S. players?

[sharpcircle]

this sucks

[Hareeba!]

i don't get you guys. so what if the owner is putting up those offers. who the fukk cares.. do you prefer if a regular guy is putting it up. who cares. it's the same shit. as long as i get paid, that's what matters. who the fukk cares if it's the owner. i don't get you guys..

obviously he thinks the owner's money isn't as good as that of regular players' ?

not that it really matters much to me as I rarely accept offers at MB, preferring to post them myself

[bettilimbroke999]

Its bc the nature of an exchange is to make money risk-free by charging its customers commissions not off the 1-2 cent lines with huge offers this guy is charging

[lukahh]

have any books been known to be hedging on Matchbook?
or was it only the regular bettors?

[jjgold]

If all these people actually played at matchbook in this thread volume would of been booming instead of now going bankrupt in about 1 more year

[username474]

Are book-to-book transfers still available for non-U.S. players?

Not at the moment but should be in the future.

[P.F.Kasooff]

i don't get you guys. so what if the owner is putting up those offers. who the fukk cares.. do you prefer if a regular guy is putting it up. who cares. it's the same shit. as long as i get paid, that's what matters. who the fukk cares if it's the owner. i don't get you guys..


i swear in the POR/SAC game.. with about 15 min to go.. it was a tight 1 cent line on the spread and there was 27,000$ each way to bet. and the moneyline was unreal. there was 44,000$ on POR available and it was 16 cents better than pinny at the time.

matchy is not the same as it used to be. it's 122x better than it ever was, including 2007..

+1

Money is money regardless.

[Snowball]

matchbook was a small dot on the map in the offshore gambling world

it was a small club of bonus whores and scalpers

that's all it was.

[Fishhead]

Matchbook has been and still is a significant part of my business.

I got several bets there today on NBA at better odds than at Pinnacle.

And I resent being called a bonus whore or scalper.

What's your agenda in continuing to post negative stuff about MB?

JJ is part of the SBR EMPLOYEE give no respect to Matchbook clan...............

Matchbook determined long ago not to advertise here and hence the huge grudge by SBR against them......JJ is simply following SBR JOHNS lead, he knows who butters his bread.

[jjgold]

Fisher............now if you can get a matchbook account now would you rather bet against other players or some fukkin nit wit owner that thinks he is smarter than everyone??

All matchbook is now.... the owner against the players, he is betting everything he has against the players

Now that is risky

Fisher get to VEGAS

[Fishhead]

Fisher............now if you can get a matchbook account now would you rather bet against other players or some fukkin nit wit owner that thinks he is smarter than everyone??

All matchbook is now.... the owner against the players, he is betting everything he has against the players

Now that is risky

Fisher get to VEGAS

Packing as we type.........will be good to get back home.

[Smoke]

matchbook was a small dot on the map in the offshore gambling world

it was a small club of bonus whores and scalpers

This

[Nicky Santoro]

JJ is part of the SBR EMPLOYEE give no respect to Matchbook clan...............

Matchbook determined long ago not to advertise here and hence the huge grudge by SBR against them......JJ is simply following SBR JOHNS lead, he knows who butters his bread.

Makes sense. since the day i joined back in apr 08, i've been begging him to join matchy and he kept saying no. who would say NO to a book that offers -4 lines.. (+102/+102)? he would tell me he is a traditional old school-110/-110 guy.. yet he would drive 28 total hrs in his car, drive to CANADA 4 times both ways, spend 300$ in gas, pay 800$ for 4 nights hotel, pay another 1,000$ to be here 4 days, put mileage on his car, spend countless hrs in banks opening up accts.. and all this for what?? so he can have an acct at BetFair exchange and pay 5%, and maybe a few others in the U.K.. but no matchy.. lol..

he has a personal vendetta against matchy. he's never liked that name since day 1. he hates them to death and he's so happy they're no longer around. i don't know why he bad mouths them so much. maybe it's because like you said, they nevr advertised here. best lines in the world and he refused to ever go there.

[blackbart]

have any books been known to be hedging on Matchbook?
or was it only the regular bettors?

pinnacle one way or another

[RealSlimShady]

pinnacle one way or another

For sure Pinnacle or someone following their lines did. If you bet at Pinnacle and moved the line there, their bid/offer market on Matchbook would change. However, if you took out their bid/offer on Matchbook, the line would not move at Pinnacle. So if you were really intending on betting big at both, you'd bet at Matchbook first before betting at Pinnacle.

[jjgold]

Makes sense. since the day i joined back in apr 08, i've been begging him to join matchy and he kept saying no. who would say NO to a book that offers -4 lines.. (+102/+102)? he would tell me he is a traditional old school-110/-110 guy.. yet he would drive 28 total hrs in his car, drive to CANADA 4 times both ways, spend 300$ in gas, pay 800$ for 4 nights hotel, pay another 1,000$ to be here 4 days, put mileage on his car, spend countless hrs in banks opening up accts.. and all this for what?? so he can have an acct at BetFair exchange and pay 5%, and maybe a few others in the U.K.. but no matchy.. lol..

he has a personal vendetta against matchy. he's never liked that name since day 1. he hates them to death and he's so happy they're no longer around. i don't know why he bad mouths them so much. maybe it's because like you said, they nevr advertised here. best lines in the world and he refused to ever go there.

Nicky I get inside info on Matchbook

How did I know all credit accounts were pulled before anyone at SBR other than John Harold Walker???
Nicky I never like place because of bad ownership and I know bad ownership better than anyone here.

Nicky I do whatever John Harold Walker tells me

[RealSlimShady]

Nicky I get inside info on Matchbook

How did I know all credit accounts were pulled before anyone at SBR other than John Harold Walker???
Nicky I never like place because of bad ownership and I know bad ownership better than anyone here.

Nicky I do whatever John Harold Walker tells me

JJ, you bigtimer.......
Are you a bigtime agent?