Matchbook leaving the US

[jjgold]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shady delete your last post NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Fishhead]

Makes sense. since the day i joined back in apr 08, i've been begging him to join matchy and he kept saying no. who would say NO to a book that offers -4 lines.. (+102/+102)? he would tell me he is a traditional old school-110/-110 guy.. yet he would drive 28 total hrs in his car, drive to CANADA 4 times both ways, spend 300$ in gas, pay 800$ for 4 nights hotel, pay another 1,000$ to be here 4 days, put mileage on his car, spend countless hrs in banks opening up accts.. and all this for what?? so he can have an acct at BetFair exchange and pay 5%, and maybe a few others in the U.K.. but no matchy.. lol..

he has a personal vendetta against matchy. he's never liked that name since day 1. he hates them to death and he's so happy they're no longer around. i don't know why he bad mouths them so much. maybe it's because like you said, they nevr advertised here. best lines in the world and he refused to ever go there.

[Fishhead]

Nicky I do whatever John Harold Walker tells me

[minet123]

time to face facts
1)Matchbook is gone for post up in the USA
2)It's now a private exchange for Whales and Spiro,Mickey,Mr Henry and Tony's Loss prevention dept
3)It never was a viable option for the Masses,ask anyone who rolls big offshore through agents,90% don't know or care what a forums is and have no clue why books offer lines other than -110
4)BetCRIS will NEVER do anything with Betmaker.If they where going to do something they would have done it by now
5)The only hope for an exchange in the USA is if we make betmaker viable or what Blackie has cooking gets off the ground with out him coming here to answer every negative post and there by pissing himself off with all the negativity that exists in fourmville because we as poster don't like how he is running his own business

[patswin]

^^ solid post

[Hareeba!]

Nicky I do whatever John Harold Walker tells me

pardon my ignorance but wtf is John Harold Walker and wtf does he know?

[Fishhead]

pardon my ignorance but wtf is John Harold Walker and wtf does he know?

Owner of this site and some other known gaming ventures.

[Johnny 55]

Fish- You going to start giving Betmaker heavy action.

[Fishhead]

Fish- You going to start giving Betmaker heavy action.

No, probably not.

[jjgold]

The Black Market is where all the action will be.

Blackie has a solid rep paying guys and being straight forward.

With Ganch running book it will be good.

[Johnny 55]

Will Ganchy and Blackie ever start this thing? They need to strike now while the iron is hot.

Fish- Why no Betmaker, not enough liquidity for you. I signed up today and will send some money tomorrow, hopefully it is okay.

[ryanjep]

Sad news. Def had some great lines

[increasedodds]

Doesn't betmaker have a ridiculous 6% commission or something like that?

[jjgold]

Will Ganchy and Blackie ever start this thing? They need to strike now while the iron is hot.

Fish- Why no Betmaker, not enough liquidity for you. I signed up today and will send some money tomorrow, hopefully it is okay.

Betmaker is whore shit

I am pushing Blackie and Ganch to speed this up

[Nicky Santoro]

forget betfair, forget betmaker, forget blackie, forget any other exchange out there.. no other exchange will ever come close to matchy... where else you going to be able to bet a game at -101 when the closing line was -108/even.. and instead of paying 5%, you get 0.2% on top of that.. only matchy.

the rest of the places are jokes compared to matchy..

[Johnny 55]

Betmaker is currently 2% win commission rate, same as Matchbook's old structure.

JJ- Why are you so against Betmaker, they have a good chance to do some business now that Matchbook is gone, I am hoping for good things come baseball, can you give some reasonable insight into why you call them "whore shit".

I am trying real hard to replace Matchbook's production in my arsenal, any book who can come close to helping me replace some of those profits I am for.

[jjgold]

Johnny there is little volume at Betmaker, seems like book just throwing money in pool hoping guys pick it up

if orders filled it is only right before tipoff

[RealSlimShady]

Johnny 55, I am hoping Betmaker will be decent as well. Have an account there funded and ready to go, but still dont see much liquidity in NBA. The 2% win commission rate is workable for me....just no volume there currently.

[Hareeba!]

forget betfair, forget betmaker, forget blackie, forget any other exchange out there.. no other exchange will ever come close to matchy... where else you going to be able to bet a game at -101 when the closing line was -108/even.. and instead of paying 5%, you get 0.2% on top of that.. only matchy.

the rest of the places are jokes compared to matchy..

Don't write Betfair off that quickly.
I do sometimes manage to get better odds there (after comm.) than at MB for US sports.
And their commission is 5% only for those who hardly ever use them. I pay a lot less than that and only on winning bets, unlike having to pay on losing bets when you accept offers at MB.

[hhsilver]

Betmaker is currently 2% win commission rate, same as Matchbook's old structure.

JJ- Why are you so against Betmaker, they have a good chance to do some business now that Matchbook is gone, I am hoping for good things come baseball, can you give some reasonable insight into why you call them "whore shit".

I am trying real hard to replace Matchbook's production in my arsenal, any book who can come close to helping me replace some of those profits I am for.

Johnny 55, I am hoping Betmaker will be decent as well. Have an account there funded and ready to go, but still dont see much liquidity in NBA. The 2% win commission rate is workable for me....just no volume there currently.

I , too am hoping they can be a decent replacement for matchb. Are you sure it's 2% comm for everyone. I took a look at the site and I don't think they explained it clearly --- something about 5% (6% for horses) with a discount applied to that. I couldn't find specifics on this discount and what it would take to get the commission down to 2%. I do like that the comm is on net win - like it used to be for match.

Am I wrong about this 5% with a discount ? Could you explain it or steer me to something that would be clearer than what I read.

[Igetp2s]

They have an introductory offer of 2% right now, no discount needed. How long that offer is good for is anybody's guess.

[Fishhead]

They have an introductory offer of 2% right now, no discount needed. How long that offer is good for is anybody's guess.

If they have an influx of clients/volume, you would think they would keep it at 2%

[David]

They should offer some kind of incentive to make offers.

[Stacocakes]

Den/Utah live is empty. Only offers are during the commercial break when I put up an offer on each team

Not sure how much longer I will wait here before I jump ship on matchbook

[RealSlimShady]

If they have an influx of clients/volume, you would think they would keep it at 2%

I'm already fully funded there, and check daily for volume, but havent seen much. You guys need to show up there...lol.

[superwerewolf6]

hopefully betmaker steps up , they dont look so good for now tho

[polskboy]

you know what i find weird?? its that i have never seen matchy with this much liquidity at 1 pm EST since it's opened up yrs ago. how is that there close to 10k liquidity on most NBA games tonight??

could it be that Matchy didn't get most of their business from U.S. citizens? could it be that matchy might get even bigger now without the U.S.??

This is all very confusing..

could it be that mb cant deal with pressure from us goverment anymore?could it be that americans dont gamble as much people from other markets???most of players here in america bet 10$ a game or 9 team parlays.

[Legions36]

could it be that mb cant deal with pressure from us goverment anymore?could it be that americans dont gamble as much people from other markets???most of players here in america bet 10$ a game or 9 team parlays.

Obviously its because of our Gov., to bad they are taking the whole Bush law serious.

[Legions36]

hopefully betmaker steps up , they dont look so good for now tho

Yeah they need a whole new look and system, all i can see there is measly a$67 half point off lines there waiting to be matched.

[jjgold]

empty

its fukkin done

[Cookie Monster]

Den/Utah live is empty. Only offers are during the commercial break when I put up an offer on each team

Not sure how much longer I will wait here before I jump ship on matchbook

Yes, it was a graveyard even before game start.

I got Denver moneyline +150 on Diamond at the afternoon. It was clearly a +EV bet, so, instead of placing my usual 1 unit bet, I took it for 10x, planning to hedge a part of it on matchbook close to gametime and letting ride 2 units or so, depending on the price I get in MB.

Well, I offered Denver +140 all the day (meaning Jazz -140 for me), and no one matched one cent. The best offer offer the other side was Jazz -149, even worse than pinny (-150) after commission. There were not any action on the game all day, the spread was low liquidity on 8 cents line, the total had no offers, and the moneyline was me and the 149 guy. A ghost town. And yesterday had only 2 NBA games...

When I was resigned to hedge a a little at pinny at -150, 3 minutes before tipoff some guy offered a -146, and I took it, hedging 7 units and letting ride 3 more. That hedge was clearly a bad price (pinny vig free was 142), but I exposed for too much and was lucky to get away with some.

At the end, everything worked out nice, my side won and I am happy. But looks like taking big bets planning to hegde on matchy (at close to market price) is no longer a viable strategy.

[jjgold]

Cookie they struggled to get decent volume before the move now they are really going to struggle

Any book that the owner is gambling is not good

[Fishhead]

Cookie they struggled to get decent volume before the move now they are really going to struggle

Any book that the owner is gambling is not good

Only one of the best gamblers in the world.............stop with your lunacy son.

[jjgold]

[John Dough]

Any book that the owner is gambling is not good

Wow, could that possibly be more wrong? You don't think Henry or Spiro "gamble"?