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  • username474
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-09-09
    • 480

    #631
    Originally posted by durito
    Matchbook is awesome today. Must suck to not be able to play there.
    I went from not even logging on to Matchbook for weeks at time to getting four bets down in the last two days. I am wondering how long they will keep seeding the market though.
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    • dynamite140
      SBR MVP
      • 07-05-08
      • 4958

      #632
      are you guys all cashing out now or waiting a bit??
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      • dialup_king
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-08-08
        • 156

        #633
        who is the new ownership. why do some people think they are deep pocketed?
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        • sickpicks
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-17-11
          • 42

          #634
          Originally posted by stefan084
          i just wish i could play at pinnacle
          Dude in Europe we can play in pinnacle but these bastards from European Union and governments of countries are thinking to bring in license for online gambling. Online sportsbook site will be blocked until they will make payment for government and get license. These bastards are starting to censor internet and making life harder with many prohibitions. George Orwell's "animal farm" is f.uk.ing reality and Big Brother is everywhere sorry for my english
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          • heyman
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-16-09
            • 178

            #635
            Originally posted by SBR_John
            The guys that are hurt in this are the smaller books and locals who used MB as a risk shock absorber and the penny arb guys who would cut a penny or two from betting both sides of each game. Both groups play a part in the industry but neither is a critical component imo. MB's proverbial footprint in the sand will be washed away with little notice except for the two groups I mentioned.
            You never got it.

            SBR does many good things for players and I am grateful for their existence (though I don’t post that often). Matchbook was their one flaw. They couldn’t be objective about them.

            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            I mean those who regularly let you make good sized bets at better odds than Pinnacle on US sports
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #636
              Originally posted by heyman
              You never got it.

              SBR does many good things for players and I am grateful for their existence (though I don’t post that often). Matchbook was their one flaw. They couldn’t be objective about them.

              True
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              • wrongturn
                SBR MVP
                • 06-06-06
                • 2228

                #637
                Originally posted by SBR_John
                I thought that about Pinnacle when they left, thought wrong. The sports gaming market is extremely resilient.

                The guys that are hurt in this are the smaller books and locals who used MB as a risk shock absorber and the penny arb guys who would cut a penny or two from betting both sides of each game. Both groups play a part in the industry but neither is a critical component imo. MB's proverbial footprint in the sand will be washed away with little notice except for the two groups I mentioned.
                Translation: Both groups are bad for SBR's sponsors.
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                • Nicky Santoro
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-08-08
                  • 16103

                  #638
                  matchy


                  Dallas at Philadelphia [more] Mar 01 7:05 pm
                  Dallas -2.0
                  +100 $15,000
                  23
                  Philadelphia +2.0
                  -101 $20,351
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #639
                    Nicky that is fake volume

                    internal volume

                    your smarter than this
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                    • Hareeba!
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 07-01-06
                      • 37337

                      #640
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Nicky that is fake volume

                      internal volume

                      your smarter than this
                      "internal volume" ?

                      oh yeah you know this for certain I s'pose ?

                      I had no trouble getting matched with my one NBA bet today at 4c above what Pinnacle was offering

                      So far things don't appear any different to me
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                      • Nicky Santoro
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-08-08
                        • 16103

                        #641
                        i dont get it. today was the busiest i have ever seen matchy since 2008..
                        there was 26,000 each side to bet on all night.. at tight lines too.. 1-2 cent lines all night..


                        here is one example. not the best one, but it's one example.

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                        • RealSlimShady
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-24-07
                          • 6249

                          #642
                          There is no reason for volume to pick up dramatically right after losing a bunch of customers unless the new owners are attempting to make it look liquid.
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                          • sunnyblue88
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 08-11-06
                            • 116

                            #643
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Nicky that is fake volume internal volume your smarter than this

                            There were indeed some good size offers for earlier nba games and I saw big blocks of shares changed hands in Dallas/Phi game. There is a market maker seeding the market using 5000 on each side, the one on Phi +2 was taken several times. So that's all fake volume? Please share some lights on this. Trying to look closely , to see if those big money finds a way to bet on matchbook again, just like they did in pinnacle's case.
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                            • Tomahawk
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 04-24-10
                              • 358

                              #644
                              Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                              Head to head with Betfair?
                              They can't survive without US players, that is/was their captive market.
                              They are cheaper then betfair, I hope people will see this and decide to join matchbook. They are even more profitable then pinnacle.

                              Why does the most low juice books leave US?

                              Is the government behind this? They are killing american bettors who bet for profit, couse they will be left with the -110 lines which sux.
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                              • sunnyblue88
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 08-11-06
                                • 116

                                #645
                                Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                                There is no reason for volume to pick up dramatically right after losing a bunch of customers unless the new owners are attempting to make it look liquid.

                                Looks like the new owner is acting as market maker himself, seeding the market, $5000 on each side on NBA. But other than that, I did see some other nice blocks of shares on each side. Maybe those big credit players quickly find a way to play at matchbook again?
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                                • RealSlimShady
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-24-07
                                  • 6249

                                  #646
                                  They are seeding the market(especially for NBA games). If you look at NBA futures, the volume is zero. If you look at 1st half wagers, nothing much is there. College hoops is minimal as well currently. In game is dead too.
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #647
                                    Great day at Matchbook...........
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                                    • bettilimbroke999
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-04-08
                                      • 13254

                                      #648
                                      If I was playing at matchbook right now I would be very concerned with the massive instant liquidity on both sides they apparently found after losing probably 80% of their clients, seems very fishy, it would appear the "new owners" are seeding 20k+ on both sides of 1-3 cent lines
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                                      • durito
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-03-06
                                        • 13173

                                        #649
                                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                                        Great day at Matchbook...........
                                        Don't pretend like you are still playing there.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #650
                                          Originally posted by durito
                                          Don't pretend like you are still playing there.
                                          You have confirmed what many already percieve........the biggest dunce on forum.


                                          GAWD ALMIGHTY, you must live in North Carolina or Georgia, from what I can gather.
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                                          • Tomahawk
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 04-24-10
                                            • 358

                                            #651
                                            NCAAB market is dead. Less then 100 bucks on each side.

                                            The new owners are not seeding the NCAAB market, just then NBA market.

                                            I offer a $3 bet on Wyoming +11.5 for +100 somebody please accept it, it's better then Pinnacle-s offer! This market is getting so empty with just a few buck on each side.
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                                            • Hareeba!
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 07-01-06
                                              • 37337

                                              #652
                                              Originally posted by durito
                                              Don't pretend like you are still playing there.
                                              I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.
                                              I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
                                              I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
                                              So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
                                              So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #653
                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.
                                                I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
                                                I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
                                                So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
                                                So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?

                                                No kidding, you tell me.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #654
                                                  Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                                                  They are seeding the market(especially for NBA games). If you look at NBA futures, the volume is zero. If you look at 1st half wagers, nothing much is there. College hoops is minimal as well currently. In game is dead too.



                                                  The place will be bankrupt in 1 year
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                                                  • sneak-a-peak
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-07-09
                                                    • 1373

                                                    #655
                                                    Originally posted by stefan084
                                                    i just wish i could play at pinnacle
                                                    Yep- same here!
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                                                    • Fishhead
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40179

                                                      #656
                                                      Originally posted by sneak-a-peak
                                                      Yep- same here!

                                                      No reason not to be..............read JJGOLD POSTS
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                                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                        • 13254

                                                        #657
                                                        JJ how do I get pinny back? Points are in it for you sir, though not many as SBR casino keeps making my dreams come true, apparently my dream is to have no points

                                                        Also, not to **** up my chance of getting pinny info but I didnt finish in the top 105 of your February posters, that's like going to a school for "special" ppl and finishing last in the class you jackass
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                                                        • durito
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-03-06
                                                          • 13173

                                                          #658
                                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                          I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.
                                                          I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
                                                          I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
                                                          So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
                                                          So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?
                                                          I made wagers there today.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #659
                                                            Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                                            JJ how do I get pinny back? Points are in it for you sir, though not many as SBR casino keeps making my dreams come true, apparently my dream is to have no points

                                                            Also, not to **** up my chance of getting pinny info but I didnt finish in the top 105 of your February posters, that's like going to a school for "special" ppl and finishing last in the class you jackass

                                                            Hint:................First go get a non usa bank account

                                                            UK or Canada.then get back to me
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                                                            • Fishhead
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-11-05
                                                              • 40179

                                                              #660
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Hint:................First go get a non usa bank account

                                                              UK or Canada.then get back to me

                                                              JJ loves MONTREAL
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                                                              • jackkkk2009
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-13-09
                                                                • 1183

                                                                #661
                                                                why not Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, or China? can we get an account there then come back to US?
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                                                                • increasedodds
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 01-20-06
                                                                  • 819

                                                                  #662
                                                                  You can get a bank account in many parts of the world. Countries that will open one with no questions include Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Antigua, etc. Europe is a pain in the ass. I tried to open one in London and they wanted employment papers and visas.
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                                                                  • bettilimbroke999
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-04-08
                                                                    • 13254

                                                                    #663
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Hint:................First go get a non usa bank account

                                                                    UK or Canada.then get back to me
                                                                    I guess that kinda stuff would work I thought ya had something a little easier for me than going out of the country just to open a bank account, all my 16 SBR points awarded for you trying to help and as a bribe to finish top 5000 posters in March
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                                                                    • ForgetWallStreet
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 04-27-07
                                                                      • 342

                                                                      #664
                                                                      You'll need more than a foreign bank account to pull this stunt off.
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                                                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-04-08
                                                                        • 13254

                                                                        #665
                                                                        Originally posted by ForgetWallStreet
                                                                        You'll need more than a foreign bank account to pull this stunt off.
                                                                        Why? If youll trudge to some hellhole outside the US to open an account doesnt that get around the US laws
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