Originally posted by durito
Matchbook leaving the US
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username474SBR Sharp
- 01-09-09
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#631I went from not even logging on to Matchbook for weeks at time to getting four bets down in the last two days. I am wondering how long they will keep seeding the market though.Comment -
dynamite140SBR MVP
- 07-05-08
- 4958
#632are you guys all cashing out now or waiting a bit??Comment -
dialup_kingSBR High Roller
- 09-08-08
- 156
#633who is the new ownership. why do some people think they are deep pocketed?Comment -
sickpicksSBR Rookie
- 01-17-11
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#634Dude in Europe we can play in pinnacle but these bastards from European Union and governments of countries are thinking to bring in license for online gambling. Online sportsbook site will be blocked until they will make payment for government and get license. These bastards are starting to censor internet and making life harder with many prohibitions. George Orwell's "animal farm" is f.uk.ing reality and Big Brother is everywhereOriginally posted by stefan084i just wish i could play at pinnacle
sorry for my english
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heymanSBR High Roller
- 03-16-09
- 178
#635You never got it.Originally posted by SBR_JohnThe guys that are hurt in this are the smaller books and locals who used MB as a risk shock absorber and the penny arb guys who would cut a penny or two from betting both sides of each game. Both groups play a part in the industry but neither is a critical component imo. MB's proverbial footprint in the sand will be washed away with little notice except for the two groups I mentioned.
SBR does many good things for players and I am grateful for their existence (though I don’t post that often). Matchbook was their one flaw. They couldn’t be objective about them.
Originally posted by Hareeba!I mean those who regularly let you make good sized bets at better odds than Pinnacle on US sportsComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
- 40184
#636Originally posted by heymanYou never got it.
SBR does many good things for players and I am grateful for their existence (though I don’t post that often). Matchbook was their one flaw. They couldn’t be objective about them.
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wrongturnSBR MVP
- 06-06-06
- 2228
#637Translation: Both groups are bad for SBR's sponsors.Originally posted by SBR_JohnI thought that about Pinnacle when they left, thought wrong. The sports gaming market is extremely resilient.
The guys that are hurt in this are the smaller books and locals who used MB as a risk shock absorber and the penny arb guys who would cut a penny or two from betting both sides of each game. Both groups play a part in the industry but neither is a critical component imo. MB's proverbial footprint in the sand will be washed away with little notice except for the two groups I mentioned.
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Nicky SantoroSBR Posting Legend
- 04-08-08
- 16103
#638
matchy
Dallas at Philadelphia [more] Mar 01 7:05 pm
Dallas -2.0
+100 $15,000
23
Philadelphia +2.0
-101 $20,351Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388208
#639Nicky that is fake volume
internal volume
your smarter than thisComment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 32911
#640"internal volume" ?Originally posted by jjgoldNicky that is fake volume
internal volume
your smarter than this
oh yeah you know this for certain I s'pose ?
I had no trouble getting matched with my one NBA bet today at 4c above what Pinnacle was offering
So far things don't appear any different to meComment -
Nicky SantoroSBR Posting Legend
- 04-08-08
- 16103
#641i dont get it. today was the busiest i have ever seen matchy since 2008..
there was 26,000 each side to bet on all night.. at tight lines too.. 1-2 cent lines all night..
here is one example. not the best one, but it's one example.
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RealSlimShadySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-24-07
- 6249
#642There is no reason for volume to pick up dramatically right after losing a bunch of customers unless the new owners are attempting to make it look liquid.Comment -
sunnyblue88SBR High Roller
- 08-11-06
- 117
#643Originally posted by jjgoldNicky that is fake volume internal volume your smarter than this
There were indeed some good size offers for earlier nba games and I saw big blocks of shares changed hands in Dallas/Phi game. There is a market maker seeding the market using 5000 on each side, the one on Phi +2 was taken several times. So that's all fake volume? Please share some lights on this. Trying to look closely , to see if those big money finds a way to bet on matchbook again, just like they did in pinnacle's case.Comment -
TomahawkSBR Sharp
- 04-24-10
- 358
#644They are cheaper then betfair, I hope people will see this and decide to join matchbook. They are even more profitable then pinnacle.Originally posted by FourLengthsClearHead to head with Betfair?
They can't survive without US players, that is/was their captive market.
Why does the most low juice books leave US?
Is the government behind this? They are killing american bettors who bet for profit, couse they will be left with the -110 lines which sux.Comment -
sunnyblue88SBR High Roller
- 08-11-06
- 117
#645Originally posted by RealSlimShadyThere is no reason for volume to pick up dramatically right after losing a bunch of customers unless the new owners are attempting to make it look liquid.
Looks like the new owner is acting as market maker himself, seeding the market, $5000 on each side on NBA. But other than that, I did see some other nice blocks of shares on each side. Maybe those big credit players quickly find a way to play at matchbook again?Comment -
RealSlimShadySBR Hall of Famer
- 12-24-07
- 6249
#646They are seeding the market(especially for NBA games). If you look at NBA futures, the volume is zero. If you look at 1st half wagers, nothing much is there. College hoops is minimal as well currently. In game is dead too.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#647Great day at Matchbook...........

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bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
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#648If I was playing at matchbook right now I would be very concerned with the massive instant liquidity on both sides they apparently found after losing probably 80% of their clients, seems very fishy, it would appear the "new owners" are seeding 20k+ on both sides of 1-3 cent linesComment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend- 07-03-06
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#649Don't pretend like you are still playing there.Originally posted by FishheadGreat day at Matchbook...........

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FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#650You have confirmed what many already percieve........the biggest dunce on forum.Originally posted by duritoDon't pretend like you are still playing there.
GAWD ALMIGHTY, you must live in North Carolina or Georgia, from what I can gather.Comment -
TomahawkSBR Sharp
- 04-24-10
- 358
#651NCAAB market is dead. Less then 100 bucks on each side.
The new owners are not seeding the NCAAB market, just then NBA market.
I offer a $3 bet on Wyoming +11.5 for +100 somebody please accept it, it's better then Pinnacle-s offer! This market is getting so empty with just a few buck on each side.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 32911
#652I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.Originally posted by duritoDon't pretend like you are still playing there.
I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
- 40184
#653Originally posted by Hareeba!I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.
I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?
No kidding, you tell me.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388208
#654Originally posted by RealSlimShadyThey are seeding the market(especially for NBA games). If you look at NBA futures, the volume is zero. If you look at 1st half wagers, nothing much is there. College hoops is minimal as well currently. In game is dead too.



The place will be bankrupt in 1 yearComment -
sneak-a-peakSBR MVP
- 11-07-09
- 1373
#655Yep- same here!Originally posted by stefan084i just wish i could play at pinnacle
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FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#656Originally posted by sneak-a-peakYep- same here!
No reason not to be..............read JJGOLD POSTSComment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
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#657JJ how do I get pinny back? Points are in it for you sir, though not many as SBR casino keeps making my dreams come true, apparently my dream is to have no points
Also, not to **** up my chance of getting pinny info but I didnt finish in the top 105 of your February posters, that's like going to a school for "special" ppl and finishing last in the class you jackassComment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend- 07-03-06
- 13173
#658I made wagers there today.Originally posted by Hareeba!I don't need to pretend. I am and am quite satisfied with what I was able to achieve there today.
I really don't care who's putting up offers as long as I can get prices several cents in advance of what Pinnacle is offering.
I didn't accept someone else's offer today. I put up my own and got matched.
So at this stage it is continuation of business as usual.
So what's the point of those not playing there posting all this negative stuff about MB?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388208
#659Originally posted by bettilimbroke999JJ how do I get pinny back? Points are in it for you sir, though not many as SBR casino keeps making my dreams come true, apparently my dream is to have no points
Also, not to **** up my chance of getting pinny info but I didnt finish in the top 105 of your February posters, that's like going to a school for "special" ppl and finishing last in the class you jackass
Hint:................First go get a non usa bank account
UK or Canada.then get back to meComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
- 40184
#660Originally posted by jjgoldHint:................First go get a non usa bank account
UK or Canada.then get back to me
JJ loves MONTREALComment -
jackkkk2009SBR MVP
- 07-13-09
- 1183
#661why not Australia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, or China? can we get an account there then come back to US?Comment -
increasedoddsSBR Wise Guy
- 01-20-06
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#662You can get a bank account in many parts of the world. Countries that will open one with no questions include Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Antigua, etc. Europe is a pain in the ass. I tried to open one in London and they wanted employment papers and visas.Comment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
- 13254
#663I guess that kinda stuff would work I thought ya had something a little easier for me than going out of the country just to open a bank account, all my 16 SBR points awarded for you trying to help and as a bribe to finish top 5000 posters in MarchOriginally posted by jjgoldHint:................First go get a non usa bank account
UK or Canada.then get back to meComment -
ForgetWallStreetSBR Sharp
- 04-27-07
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#664You'll need more than a foreign bank account to pull this stunt off.Comment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
- 13254
#665Why? If youll trudge to some hellhole outside the US to open an account doesnt that get around the US lawsOriginally posted by ForgetWallStreetYou'll need more than a foreign bank account to pull this stunt off.Comment
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