Matchbook leaving the US

[Fishhead]

how long before they are removed from sbr odds?

Why would they be removed????

[bettilimbroke999]

Great post. MB was very god for a while. And its great to see someone not massaging their poles.

Thanks, Im somehow one of the few ppl here who is able to tell the massive difference before that destruction period 2 years ago, those ppl on here with a human-level brain who played there pre-March 2009 understand exactly what Im talking about

Live betting was awesome preMarch09, it has been basically nonexistent ever since, college sports was awesome, same nonexistence, etc.

The 15 year olds on here that bet 5 bucks a game still suck MB off bc they still get their 5 bucks matched at better than pinny odds

[Sdotbold]

betmaker does look cheesy. Has anyone played there?

[RealSlimShady]

betmaker does look cheesy. Has anyone played there?

I wasnt able to get any wagers matched today in the NBA. Let's see if volume picks up soon.....

[Fishhead]

I wasnt able to get any wagers matched today in the NBA. Let's see if volume picks up soon.....

Keep us posted, thanks.

[RealSlimShady]

Keep us posted, thanks.

If they keep commissions at a 2% net win rate and bettors(especially the credit side) migrate there from Matchbook, it could work.

[dino]

Crediting a player's cc who never used the cc to make a deposit at Matchbook seems like it will cause problems for the player with his cc company. Does anyone here have knowledge regarding this?

[Fishhead]

If they keep commissions at a 2% net win rate and bettors(especially the credit side) migrate there from Matchbook, it could work.

Anyone that has access to MB may migrate(no reason not to)..........one should have as many outs as possible, expecially in the exchange world.

[the sink]

Thanks, Im somehow one of the few ppl here who is able to tell the massive difference before that destruction period 2 years ago, those ppl on here with a human-level brain who played there pre-March 2009 understand exactly what Im talking about

Live betting was awesome preMarch09, it has been basically nonexistent ever since, college sports was awesome, same nonexistence, etc.

The 15 year olds on here that bet 5 bucks a game still suck MB off bc they still get their 5 bucks matched at better than pinny odds

I only do arbs but I have matched more then $50K at matchbook every weak this season...
If I had more money it would have been 100...
Matchbook was great for me until 2-3weeks ago when they first closed the credit accounts.

[heyman]

March 2009-now when MB got rid of most of its huge credit players (which provided half the liquidity) and switched to the new (crap) commission system which charges you even when you lose

Ya know whats interesting is being charged 2% when I win doesnt bother me at all but when I lose paying a fee really bothers me. This happened to me playing poker once in New Orleans, they dont rake the pot they just charge everyone at the 1/2 NL table 6 bucks every half hour, well that sounds good but in reality I hated it bc my hands sucked the first 2 hours I was there and I was down about 50 bucks but half of that was from payin that fuckin 12 bucks/hour rake which I wouldnt have had to pay shit normally bc I didnt win any raked pots, now if I was winning several raked pots and they raked 24 bucks away from me while Im up it wouldnt have bothered me

The 15 year olds on here that bet 5 bucks a game still suck MB off bc they still get their 5 bucks matched at better than pinny odds

Nice juxtaposition.

Of course, assuming same total fees taken, winners prefer a straight fee and losers prefer a fee on winners.

[durito]

Anyone that has access to MB may migrate(no reason not to)..........one should have as many outs as possible, expecially in the exchange world.

NBA 2nd Halfs are the at matchbook. Excellent liquidity.

[FourLengthsClear]

Nice juxtaposition.

Of course, assuming same total fees taken, winners prefer a straight fee and losers prefer a fee on winners.

Traders prefer a commission on net profits in a given market.

It is that type of player that allow 10s of millions to be matched on soccer matches and tennis matches on Betfair. The 0.1% commission rebate on accepted offers was never as attractive to me.

[the sink]

Ye good plan the owners had...

[RealSlimShady]

Someone needs to tell the new owners to seed the NBA futures markets as well if they want to make it look busy.
There were thousands of dollars on both bid and offer sides on most teams yesterday.....zero there today on every team! Basically all bids/offers were US based clients....

[bettilimbroke999]

I only do arbs but I have matched more then $50K at matchbook every weak this season...
If I had more money it would have been 100...
Matchbook was great for me until 2-3weeks ago when they first closed the credit accounts.

That's good, I understand, arbers could still certainly find arb ops on their halftime NBA lines which I suspect is where the vast majority of your arbs were found

[underthe total]

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If I had to start using a local again, I probably would quit gambling

find you a local that is an agent of a well run site, it is way easier

[bettilimbroke999]

Nice juxtaposition.

Of course, assuming same total fees taken, winners prefer a straight fee and losers prefer a fee on winners.

Yes heyman you sound like a huge winner, now go make my McDouble and shutup

[elgreco]

Agree with the banking but sending that CC info is inviting disaster.

More like "a mild inconvenience" Its really not that bad. Unfortunately, I've had to deal with this twice in the past 8 months. Both times everything was fixed with a 5 minute phone call and a new card. With a DC, the money gets taken first and you have to call them to get it back. With a CC there is nothing to worry about.

(Yes, I could prove the point by posting my CC info here, as people have requested of others saying the same thing, but its not worth the annoyance of having to get another one. Maybe for 100 points )

[nyplayer33]

betmaker is backed by bookmaker...im very confident there

[todd73nj]

I only do arbs but I have matched more then $50K at matchbook every weak this season...
If I had more money it would have been 100...
Matchbook was great for me until 2-3weeks ago when they first closed the credit accounts.

If I added up the claims of the top 25 MB "supporters" - the old owners would never have sold the exchange. They were making over $1000 a week on you? Thats impressive. But not very believable.

Feel free to shut me up by posting the last year of your transactions. Since you can still access matchbook those are still available to copy and paste. I copied and pasted all the NBA markets for a few days that hada about $1000 available. But you trade 50 times that. Please feel free to post this info up - I want to see what I wasnt seeing because I loved that site. But Im sorry, there wasnt $100k of liquidity there just for you. Add that to what Fishhead claims.. and on and on.

I cannot wait to see you post these reports. Just goto Reports, settled bets and copy and paste 3 months at a time. I will be the first person to apologize to you and say you were right. And dont worry I wont claim you edited 3 million dollars worth of trades for the year.

[wrongturn]

Credit accounts can afford to match all the way up to -108 and still profitable. Post-up players can't do that. Oranges and apples.

[bettilimbroke999]

Agreed todd, though with 50k matched they wouldve only made 500/week at 1% but I agree theres a ton of posters that claim to be betting thousands and thousands per week which would translate to 500/week profit each, lets say theres 40 of em on this site alone then they are pullin in a risk-free guaranteed million a year just from those 40 posters on this site, that I fuckin highly doubt as they sold their business and are pulling out of the US market and about to go under.

I have little doubt that there will be HUGE payout problems with the "new management" as matchbook was run the worst I've ever seen in my life, they reminded me of a site I used to play at called BetRoyal, I quit playing there after getting slow paid a couple times which was lucky bc soon after they went into no pay mode

[todd73nj]

Agreed todd, though with 50k matched they wouldve only made 500/week at 1% but I agree theres a ton of posters that claim to be betting thousands and thousands per week which would translate to 500/week profit each, lets say theres 40 of em on this site alone then they are pullin in a risk-free guaranteed million a year just from those 40 posters on this site, that I fuckin highly doubt as they sold their business and are pulling out of the US market and about to go under.

I have little doubt that there will be HUGE payout problems with the "new management" as matchbook was run the worst I've ever seen in my life, they reminded me of a site I used to play at called BetRoyal, I quit playing there after getting slow paid a couple times which was lucky bc soon after they went into no pay mode

Claims get old without proof! But anytime I ask someone for prooft - you get the why should I? I this.. me that.. blah blah blah.

I had 100k on the KSt ML tonight!! I never have to work again in my life!!

All these guys talking about credit accounts but none of them really knew when they were lost or re-instated. Its all just pointless chatter.

[RealSlimShady]

If I added up the claims of the top 25 MB "supporters" - the old owners would never have sold the exchange. They were making over $1000 a week on you? Thats impressive. But not very believable. Feel free to shut me up by posting the last year of your transactions. Since you can still access matchbook those are still available to copy and paste. I copied and pasted all the NBA markets for a few days that hada about $1000 available. But you trade 50 times that. Please feel free to post this info up - I want to see what I wasnt seeing because I loved that site. But Im sorry, there wasnt $100k of liquidity there just for you. Add that to what Fishhead claims.. and on and on. I cannot wait to see you post these reports. Just goto Reports, settled bets and copy and paste 3 months at a time. I will be the first person to apologize to you and say you were right. And dont worry I wont claim you edited 3 million dollars worth of trades for the year.

Todd, $50K a week is very possible.......

[todd73nj]

By the way BTIB999 - drop me an email sometime @ tjg8633@hotmail.com Have some info you may be interested in.

[todd73nj]

Todd, $50K a week is very possible.......

Not by 50 guys in the SRB forum who all claim that or more. My average account balance was probably 15-20k. Unless I was taking bad prices - I wouldnt be able to get 50k down a week at these crazy odds that EVERY SINGLE matchbook touter here is claiming.

Everyone here is a big trader and big winner. So either everyone who is losing is real rich or there are alot of losers. But how did these losers keep funding their accounts.

MB still has reports available. All someone needs to do to substantiate their claims is post up a year of reports. Wouldnt hurt anything - MB is gone, no one can copy their strategy. And if they win as big as they say would be pretty impressive to see. But no one will put up - and they definately wont shut up.

[RealSlimShady]

OK....here's a cut and paste from last 7 days. No harm, I guess, since my account is no longer active:

All MarketsProfit/Loss for Report Period$18,057
Event NameMarket TypeDate SettledStake ($)Market P&L ($)NCAA BasketballBowling Green at Miami OhioPoint Spread 7.502/26/11 13:56214.00198.00Detroit U at Wright StPoint Spread 6.002/25/11 20:581,930.002,103.70Arizona at USCPoint Spread 1.002/25/11 00:4626.32-26.37Arizona at USCMoney Line02/25/11 00:45100.00-100.20Pro BasketballCharlotte at OrlandoMoney Line02/27/11 20:250.720.10Los Angeles (L) at Oklahoma CityTotal 199.502/27/11 16:581,925.11-1,942.77New Jersey at HoustonPoint Spread 8.502/26/11 23:054,850.005,228.30Boston at DenverPoint Spread -4.002/25/11 01:071,022.67-12.34Utah at DallasTotal 198.002/23/11 22:551,975.002,133.00Oklahoma City at San AntonioPoint Spread 7.002/23/11 21:474,850.005,238.00Sacramento at OrlandoPoint Spread 14.002/23/11 21:334,850.005,238.00* includes commissions

[RealSlimShady]

LOL....it came out super messy when I cut and pasted.

[OTL]

Glad I never deposited there. With the American cash withdrawn the liquidity on sports like hockey will be close to nonexistent.... I'd never be able to get those commision credits back!

[EasyCover]

I can own automatic weapons. The Government takes my money for Keno, lottery etc. But I can't place a bet on a total. Hypocrisy.

[Full Time Hobo]

So is Betmaker going to be the new Matchbook in the US?
Anyone have any experience there?

[RealSlimShady]

So is Betmaker going to be the new Matchbook in the US? Anyone have any experience there?

I think they will be eventually. Just tried it out today, but wasnt able to get 3 seperate NBA moneyline bets matched(Bos-Utah, LA-Sac, Atl-Den). Seemed like reasonable sized offers an hour or two before gametime, but they were 8-10c wide on 2 of them and pretty wide on the 3rd. My offer was midmarket on all the games......but nothing was taken.

[the sink]

todd I sent u an email of my last 30days

[Stacocakes]

Matchbook in-game liquidity was horrible tonight. It was just me it seemed putting up an offer during the celtics game. The NCAA basketball games had basically nothing inplay. Will admit though that the second half bets for the clippers game did have some nice money available to take but that was about it for the night. Guessing the people that don't have to leave matchbook are not sure about how strong this book will be going forward so they are taking a wait and see approach to it. These books don't understand that people will bet more money when they feel that their funds are safe at the book and this would result in more commissions earned by the book. Hopefully it improves as the week goes on but I am not liking the looks of this. Keeping my balance very small

[Full Time Hobo]

Thanks Slim.
I think if things are to pick up there it wont be for a month or so with this whole Matchbook US debacle.
I checked it out too but not sure if I want to commit though. Like that Bookmaker is backing it too.