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  • ssk13809
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    #106
    Originally posted by Full Time Hobo
    If youre from the US... use Matchbook.
    If youre out of US... use Betfair...

    Read up on exchanges. They dont care if you win because youre betting against other people not the book...
    Yes I'm from US.

    So what is your full recommendation plan. Ignoring starting bankroll and betting amount. And assuming the 70% rate. (Just give it to me)


    So you recommend 1st starting with multiple books (Like the top rated ones listed above), and then later moving to Matchbook? Or do you recommend starting with matchbook and ending with matchbook? Will these strategies actually be effective? Or do you recommend something else. You can give a proposed starting bankroll as well.

    We have a 70% hit rate. Now the objective is to make millions in years. How shall it be done?
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    • ssk13809
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      #107
      Originally posted by lasker
      So with a maximum of 50 plays per year, you've hit 70%... meaning that we're talking about a dataset of less than 150 bets after your three years so far... and some of those are the ML bets that you're not including in the 70%. So the number is probably less.

      I'm sorry, but 150 bets or less is not a reliable sample. As of now, you have no reason to believe you can keep this up. Your "above average sports fan" reasoning is laughable. If someone could win big money at this by just being an avid sports fan, most of this forum would be millionaires by now. I guarantee you the people setting the lines are even more "naturally intelligence" than you, and they are spending more than 15 minutes a day, and they are actually using tested and reliable capping methods.

      Don't get me wrong, 70% from 150 plays (or a bit less) is indeed impressive. But it's not even close to conclusive. You're jumping ahead of yourself with this dreaming and all these technical questions about how you can be sure the books will pay you... ask yourself, how much have you won so far? A few hundred, perhaps? And you're already convinced you have it all figured out with just 15 minutes a day because... because... because you're a sports fan?

      The people who are long-term winners at this are not necessarily sports fans. I would venture to say many of them hardly even watch the sports they're betting. They crunch numbers -- and not in 15 minutes, either, but for hours each day. Those are the long-term winners. You had a good streak over a relatively small sample of plays and you just assume it will last. Using your current methods, it won't.

      Don't worry about how you're going to withdraw your 1 million quite yet. Try winning $1000 from $100 first... start with just a $100 bankroll and if you're really a 70% bettor it shouldn't take very long. Try hitting 70% over around 1000 plays, then talk. If you're playing only 50 plays or less each year, there's just no reason to be as confident as you are after three years.

      And when the inevitable happens, don't blame it on bad luck.
      Look I'm not concerned about the 70% rate. As I said, that's a given to me. And that's NOT what this thread is asking about.

      Even theoretically it should not be that tough. 50% is the average sports fan. After that, you can only go up. If you consistently finish 99% percentile on all "Sports Prediction Games" (Like Pick'Em, etc.), then you are 99th percentile when it comes to predicting a sports outcome. That's me. So I can do a lot better than 50% just by pure intuition off my sports knowledge. And I don't need to crunch numbers for this. Though I am looking to get into that, since I'm a strong math student, and I can use numbers to reconfirm my intuition thus increasing my rate.
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      • ssk13809
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        #108
        Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
        Exactly what I was going to say. Also, for more proof you should sign up for all the season long Contests here at SBR. If you hit 70% you should win virtually all of them. If you do win them all I will be your first investor. Also, by signing up for the Contests SBR will keep track of your percentages for you. Just in case you "don't count" certain losses.

        In my younger years I would sometimes ask a girl how many guys she's been with. Virtually all of the girls would shave their actual number by around 7 or so. They would say things like "He didn't count because blah, blah, blah". I just want to make sure you're not a teenage girl that "doesn't count" games because of bad reffing, injury, etc etc.
        What contest exactly are you talking about?
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        • mrmarket
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          • 01-26-10
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          #109
          I have arrived at a dilemma. Pity the oblivious person who created this thread or those that took the time to respond to an asinine question with relevant information. Which would you choose?
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          • MJFtheGenius
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            #110
            I don't get it

            If you are so good why not make a career out of it?
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            • MJFtheGenius
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              #111
              I remember my first winning streak ...i thought i would never lose a bet in the rest of life ever again
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              • ssk13809
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                #112
                Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                I don't get it

                If you are so good why not make a career out of it?
                Because it's not a preferred lifestyle of mine.

                And I feel I can make a lot of money doing other things too. So wouldn't it be optimal if I do other things + 15min sports betting, and make a lot more than just a career in sports betting.


                Besides if I do other things for a living, I'll have a larger bankroll and thus a larger profit in sports betting. In other words, NOT making sports betting my career will greatly increase how much money I make.
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                • ssk13809
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by mrmarket
                  I have arrived at a dilemma. Pity the oblivious person who created this thread or those that took the time to respond to an asinine question with relevant information. Which would you choose?
                  If you have such a problem with the original post, suppose it was a "hypothetical" situation. In other words, just "assume" you have a 70% hit rate, then how do you make millions within 1-2 years or so.
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                  • sharpcat
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                    • 12-19-09
                    • 4516

                    #114
                    Holy crap Onner did you really play high school sports and hold a B average in intro to algebra? No wonder you are crushing the books nobody in sports gambling history has ever graduated high school let alone had the opportunity to play in a wishbone or spread offense and learn the vast knowledge of sports that one can learn in the massive 21 years of life you have under your belt, you are truly one of a kind.

                    Onthewhat stop ghosting everybody can see that you gave up on Colt and came along with Bee More and now ironically no posts from Bee More since 7/30 and up pops a new character with the same ridiculous routine.
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                    • durito
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                      • 07-03-06
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                      #115
                      If you were smart enough to hit 70% at -110 (and no one can). You'd know how to structure your bets to where you were making millions.

                      Starting with 20k if you bet full kelly for 70% at -110 you will have an expected bankroll of $108,769,238,084,610,448 after only 250 bets. Getting that much down might be a bit of a challenge though.
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                      • mrmarket
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                        #116
                        TSOP and sammy have been known to book big time forum bettors.
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                        • MJFtheGenius
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                          #117
                          sounds like like you are somwhere in between the age of 18-19....

                          what other things are you sold on you will make so much money doing?
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                          • ssk13809
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by durito
                            Getting that much down might be a bit of a challenge though.

                            And that is what this thread is asking about.


                            The winning is not an issue. The issue is how can I place, and take my winnings most reliably.
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                            • ssk13809
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                              sounds like like you are somwhere in between the age of 18-19....

                              what other things are you sold on you will make so much money doing?
                              Is this really relevant at all lol? Let's not get off-topic here. PM me if you'd really like to know.


                              Full Time hobo had some interesting advice on how to actually get this done. But he couldn't follow up. I wonder if anyone else can on what he was saying or something they recommend...
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                              • MJFtheGenius
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                                #120
                                15 minutes a day is all it takes now to win

                                maybe i am trying too hard
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                                • 20Four7
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                                  #121
                                  I want to become rich too, let me book your bets. If you seriously can hit what you say you don't need any advice because you would already be there.
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                                  • MJFtheGenius
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                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by ssk13809
                                    Is this really relevant at all lol? Let's not get off-topic here.


                                    Full Time hobo had some interesting advice on how to actually get this done. But he couldn't follow up. I wonder if anyone else can on what he was saying or something they recommend...

                                    yes it is because your story is farfetched
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                                    • wtf
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                                      • 08-22-08
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by mrmarket
                                      I have arrived at a dilemma. Pity the oblivious person who created this thread or those that took the time to respond to an asinine question with relevant information. Which would you choose?
                                      was wondering that myself, why is anyone giving this guy a legitimate reply, it is bizarre

                                      oh, btw ssk , betfair is not reliable, total scam, steer clear of those guys
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                                      • ssk13809
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by 20Four7
                                        I want to become rich too, let me book your bets. If you seriously can hit what you say you don't need any advice because you would already be there.
                                        As I said, I've bet for 3 years. And 2 of those years I have been underage for betting. Thus, you can't expect a big bankroll either.

                                        With limited betting and practically no bankroll, no I would not already be there lol.


                                        Maybe when I get an actual career going, with a bigger bankroll, then I can be there.




                                        But the thread is asking ASSUMING we have a 70% hit rate, with a large enough bank-roll, how can you make millions in 1-2 years. And I'm not asking for a mathmetical answer. I'm asking in terms of placing bets and actually getting paid.
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                                        • ssk13809
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                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                          yes it is because your story is farfetched
                                          Read the edit on my last post
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                                          • sharpcat
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                                            • 12-19-09
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                            sounds like like you are somwhere in between the age of 18-19....

                                            what other things are you sold on you will make so much money doing?

                                            What are you talking about Onner has had $20 a week contracts on 3 peoples yards in daddy's neihbohood for 5 years

                                            and at 1 point in time he was running a SBR point hedge fund under the alias COLT where he gradually lost peoples points for 2 weeks before he made an all in move and lost.
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                                            • ssk13809
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by wtf
                                              was wondering that myself, why is anyone giving this guy a legitimate reply, it is bizarre

                                              oh, btw ssk , betfair is not reliable, total scam, steer clear of those guys
                                              What about matchbook? Do you think they would pay million(s) if you actually won that much?
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                                              • maersksealand
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                                                • 09-17-09
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Addicted2Action
                                                who the fuk are you to tell him he cant hit 90% on "locks" 70%
                                                Someone hitting 70%-90% doesn't need advice on how to make money. Hitting 70% over a year is very hard, not impossible I guess, but very hard...because this is the nature of the sports, they are unpredictable most of the times, plus rigged once in a while.
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                                                • Full Time Hobo
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                                                  • 05-16-10
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                  Full Time hobo had some interesting advice on how to actually get this done. But he couldn't follow up. I wonder if anyone else can on what he was saying or something they recommend...

                                                  Look putting all of your money in one place would be stupid...

                                                  so wagering across different books could play to your advantage.

                                                  Like i said before... read up on exchanges.

                                                  Matchbook since youre from the US..... read up on it. you can put down plenty of money and they will pay whatever since youre not exactly taking money from them rather youre taking it from other gamblers... only catch is you will be limited by the liquidity.

                                                  youre looking for a place that you can get the action?

                                                  if youre hitting 70% no single book will take all of your action without eventually cutting your limits.
                                                  everyone is skeptical of your percentage because its ridiculous.. hence the bashing. instead of creating a thread looking for everyone to come to you you should instead read through the forum.... plenty of valuable info... do your own research.
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                                                  • durito
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                                                    • 07-03-06
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by ssk13809

                                                    And that is what this thread is asking about.


                                                    The winning is not an issue. The issue is how can I place, and take my winnings most reliably.
                                                    It's not an issue at all. If you really could hit 55% at -110 (and I will bet you 100k you can't), you can make millions and yes you can get enough down to make that much.
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                                                    • ssk13809
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by maersksealand
                                                      Someone hitting 70%-90% doesn't need advice on how to make money. Hitting 70% over a year is very hard, not impossible I guess, but very hard...because this is the nature of the sports, they are unpredictable most of the times, plus rigged once in a while.
                                                      I'm not asking advice on how to make money.

                                                      I'm asking advice on how to place and get paid my winnings. Which books should I use? And no moving or doing things that require a lot of time (like selling some product). How can I actually place my bets and winnings to make millions (assuming I have a 70% hit rate)
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                                                      • ssk13809
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Full Time Hobo
                                                        Look putting all of your money in one place would be stupid...

                                                        so wagering across different books could play to your advantage.

                                                        Like i said before... read up on exchanges.

                                                        Matchbook since youre from the US..... read up on it. you can put down plenty of money and they will pay whatever since youre not exactly taking money from them rather youre taking it from other gamblers... only catch is you will be limited by the liquidity.

                                                        youre looking for a place that you can get the action?

                                                        if youre hitting 70% no single book will take all of your action without eventually cutting your limits.
                                                        everyone is skeptical of your percentage because its ridiculous.. hence the bashing. instead of creating a thread looking for everyone to come to you you should instead read through the forum.... plenty of valuable info... do your own research.

                                                        Fine really quick. Which books would you recommend (final) I split my money in? And if you can, list it by %....

                                                        I'd really appreciate it.
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                                                        • 20Four7
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by durito
                                                          It's not an issue at all. If you really could hit 55% at -110 (and I will bet you 100k you can't), you can make millions and yes you can get enough down to make that much.
                                                          This....... If you started with 2K and hit what you say you assume you hit this would have already happened in 3 years.
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                                                          • durito
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                            As I said, I've bet for 3 years. And 2 of those years I have been underage for betting. Thus, you can't expect a big bankroll either.

                                                            With limited betting and practically no bankroll, no I would not already be there lol.


                                                            Maybe when I get an actual career going, with a bigger bankroll, then I can be there.




                                                            But the thread is asking ASSUMING we have a 70% hit rate, with a large enough bank-roll, how can you make millions in 1-2 years. And I'm not asking for a mathmetical answer. I'm asking in terms of placing bets and actually getting paid.

                                                            Get a pinnacle account and you won't have any problems. I'd bet my whole roll you couldn't even figure out how though.
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                                                            • ssk13809
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by durito
                                                              It's not an issue at all. If you really could hit 55% at -110 (and I will bet you 100k you can't), you can make millions and yes you can get enough down to make that much.
                                                              Millions in a couple of years? 55% is not at all impressive to be honest. If you can get 50% being retarded, 55% is pretty pathetic.

                                                              But where can I get enough down and where can I actually get paid that much? Just ask yourself, if you were hitting 70% of your bets, and could only spend 15min/day on Sports Betting (while still hitting 70%), what would you do? (No moving either)
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                                                              • MJFtheGenius
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                                                                #136
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                                                                • ssk13809
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                                  Get a pinnacle account and you won't have any problems. I'd bet my whole roll you couldn't even figure out how though.
                                                                  Ok if you're so confident I couldn't get a pinnacle account then what was the point of this post?
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                                                                  • swagger
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                                                                    • 08-07-10
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                                    But the thread is asking ASSUMING we have a 70% hit rate, with a large enough bank-roll, how can you make millions in 1-2 years. And I'm not asking for a mathmetical answer. I'm asking in terms of placing bets and actually getting paid.

                                                                    make a 10team parlay at -110 each on bookmaker for 1700$. win. cash out with 1.02M. repeat if failed. done
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                                                                    • MJFtheGenius
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by ssk13809
                                                                      Millions in a couple of years? 55% is not at all impressive to be honest. If you can get 50% being retarded, 55% is pretty pathetic.

                                                                      But where can I get enough down and where can I actually get paid that much? Just ask yourself, if you were hitting 70% of your bets, and could only spend 15min/day on Sports Betting (while still hitting 70%), what would you do? (No moving either)

                                                                      most proffesionals are around that number

                                                                      your 18 years old and already better then them

                                                                      cool
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                                                                      • ssk13809
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by 20Four7
                                                                        This....... If you started with 2K and hit what you say you assume you hit this would have already happened in 3 years.
                                                                        I started nowhere near 2k, and my betting max was $20, and was closer to the $5-$10 range. You think I have a million dollars now with 50bets/year? I've already explained this 2-3 times now.
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