Message from ThePrick - 2010 BTP: $160k Football Contest

[StraitShooter]

outstanding guys!..This is gonna be a shit load of fun!

[Alfie B]

I'm in there. Been waiting since February. In Prickies thread starter it said a $50 deposit must be made to DSI, am I missing something due to Pricksters marbles in his mouth or do I need $200 there as some posters suggested. . I've never used DSI but have an account due to BTP last year, how much do I need to send?

[pavyracer]

I thought I made that clear. If you open & fund a DSI account you play for cash...if you dont you play for points. And the split is $10k a week. You win cash if you have an account or points if you dont.

It wasn't all clear. I think you still need to separate the records of the ones who fund with cash with the ones who don't. Only the records of the ones funding with cash should count vs The Prick's record and the same should be done with the ones playing for points (non-funded accounts).

[tltaylor89]

So John are you still taking point bets on the top 100 ?

[capitalist pig]

I thought I made that clear. If you open & fund a DSI account you play for cash...if you dont you play for points. And the split is $10k a week. You win cash if you have an account or points if you dont.

Its very clear, and this is a much better way to play the contest, unlike last year requiring accounts @ multiple books ,JMO. Kudos to the Cris family for sponsering the contest alone.

later

[8550937]

dont understand cash does it mean cash you can take right away or cash in the account with rollovers?thanks.

[BigDaddy]

It wasn't all clear. I think you still need to separate the records of the ones who fund with cash with the ones who don't. Only the records of the ones funding with cash should count vs The Prick's record and the same should be done with the ones playing for points (non-funded accounts).

yeah i don't think he understood your post.

i know i did and i see it the same way as you do

10k will not be paid out every week that is a fact.

more points then cash will be paid out would be my guess for the entire year

[pavyracer]

yeah i don't think he understood your post.

i know i did and i see it the same way as you do

10k will not be paid out every week that is a fact.

more points then cash will be paid out would be my guess for the entire year

Yeah I saw your post earlier and tried to add my own spice. The amount of cash and points awarded each week should be fixed. Cash funded accounts win the fixed amount of cash and non-funded accounts win the fixed amount of points.

[Dark Horse]

$200 funding with DSI.

Between all the expletives I was able to get this. This is a good rule. It eliminates all the free loaders as well as the ghosting that was rampant last year. I guess you can ghost now but it's gonna cost you an extra $200.

I'm assuming someone has to verify the $200 deposit before your name enters the contest.

Good rule. Leaves more money on the table, plus it looks like weekly prize money was doubled.

Now if only we could get some DSI guy in here, and 'connect'.

[BigDaddy]

DH

read the thread again

Pavy yes you said everything i was trying so say but you put it in words much better than i did.

[losturmarbles]

you guys are mixing the freeroll players and buyin players

you should have 2 different groups
cash group
points group

otherwise the prize pool will be watered down by a bunch of freerollers, even though the weekly prize has doubled, the average payout will be less than last year.

[poker_dummy101]

so basically, less cash will be paid out than last year and more points will be paid out

edit: yea marbles posted exactly what i was referring to.

it wont actually be a 10k prize... we will have over double more people this year with less than half havin a real money account.. meaning less than 5k per week will actually be given out


im not complaining, i love btp, im just saying that is the case

[THEGREAT30]

so, is DSI gonna be the only sponsor or the big sponsor?

[SBR_John]

Its very clear, and this is a much better way to play the contest, unlike last year requiring accounts @ multiple books ,JMO. Kudos to the Cris family for sponsering the contest alone.

later

Thank you. It is much simplier this year.

We will go down the list of winners and deposit cash(rollover required) into the winners that have DSI accounts and award points to those who don't. Any way you cut it its a lot of cash and a lot of points and it will be a lot of fun.

[SBR_John]

so, is DSI gonna be the only sponsor or the big sponsor?

Yes.

[Dark Horse]

so basically, less cash will be paid out than last year and more points will be paid out

edit: yea marbles posted exactly what i was referring to.

it wont actually be a 10k prize... we will have over double more people this year with less than half havin a real money account.. meaning less than 5k per week will actually be given out


im not complaining, i love btp, im just saying that is the case

I don't think so. Dozer said 160K in total prize money. So that looks like about 10K per week. Divided over far fewer contestants than last year. Basically, this is a step towards the old BTP.

[BigDaddy]

I don't think so. Dozer said 160K in total prize money. So that looks like about 10K per week. Divided over far fewer contestants than last year. Basically, this is a step towards the old BTP.

please read the thread again

[poker_dummy101]

I don't think so. Dozer said 160K in total prize money. So that looks like about 10K per week. Divided over far fewer contestants than last year. Basically, this is a step towards the old BTP.

read post number 27

[Dark Horse]

BD if there are 5 winners and only 1 has an account, that guy with a DSI account would get $2,000 and the other 4 would get 2,000 points each. Not a bad scoop of points for those without an account. If all 5 have a DSI account then they would get $2,000 each. Thats the way the sponsor wants it.

Ok, post #27 copied above. So 160K in prize money, but most of it may not be paid out, depending on ratio between paying and free players.

Oh well, 200 bucks gets you an entry in the Carib contest, and the winner there should take home about 70K. BTP was fun and cool. Now it's just fun.

May I add that this much heralded system of free points is hereby actually costing winning BTP players money? Not a criticism. I just love irony.

[ronjon619]

so it's $10,000 / points. If no weekly winners made a deposit only points will be awarded. So 10k is getting divided by the number of winners and each winner will get their cut in either points or cash depending if they made a deposit or not. Why not have 2 standings one for 10k in cash and one for 10k in points.

[ronjon619]

you guys are mixing the freeroll players and buyin players

you should have 2 different groups
cash group
points group

otherwise the prize pool will be watered down by a bunch of freerollers, even though the weekly prize has doubled, the average payout will be less than last year.

same thought........i agree 100%

[Dark Horse]

so it's $10,000 / points. If no weekly winners made a deposit only points will be awarded. So 10k is getting divided by the number of winners and each winner will get their cut in either points or cash depending if they made a deposit or not. Why not have 2 standings one for 10k in cash and one for 10k in points.

Good idea. SBR John would be kind of guy to agree. Why should the popularity of the contest, and of SBR forum, work against people who make the contest possible by depositing at DSI?

[Richkas]

Bottom line, same as last year, but you get points instead of cash if you dont fund the account SBR says. If you do deposit cash, you can still be phucked by the people who dont. I'll play for points thank you.

[ronjon619]

Fu(k online books. I make my bets at a casino.

[jjgold]

He looks like a fukkin Samoan, what a hick

[pavyracer]

If it is $10,000/points given out to winners depending on the ratio of cash funded to non-funded accounts winners then there is no incentive to fund an account. This does not make sense at all to me from a business point of view but I will let the accountants of SBR figure it out.

[Dark Horse]

This setup is going to create some annoyed winners. As in 1 real weekly winner and 9 point winners. That's 10K turned into 1K. Sure, it's a free 1K, but ... it belittles the contest.

[Richkas]

If it is $10,000/points given out to winners depending on the ratio of cash funded to non-funded accounts winners then there is no incentive to fund an account. This does not make sense at all to me from a business point of view but I will let the accountants of SBR figure it out.

Its just a scam. They make more if you deposit. It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure it out. Anybody who deposits is a phucking idiot.

[BigDaddy]

pavy i will still fund my account with $50 but i will not play it.

it will sit for 17 weeks

it would be dumb not to.

but i can see your point as well i have never understood why books even allow it.

like i said these forum contests where if you are not active you get 25% of the prize

what do books want active players or contest whores?

in reality all of the BTP contestants could deposit $50 and just let it sit for 17 weeks and never bet a game with deposited money. only use prize money that they win and always leave $50 in the account

[MexicanStallion]

Sounds good. Thanks SBR. So is it $50 or $200 deposit? Saw two different amounts.

[ronjon619]

He looks like a fukkin Samoan, what a hick

Hawaiian JJ. Close enough

[pavyracer]

Its just a scam. They make more if you deposit. It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure it out. Anybody who deposits is a phucking idiot.

As a player who funds accounts every year I would love the weekly cash payouts to go to the other fellow cash funding posters who support DSI (the sponsor) with their money. Like Dark Horse said if I was the only cash winner beating all the other free rollers and have my cash price being watered down with points awarded to other posters who did not cash fund the sponsor I would be extremely pissed off.

There is no need to keep the free rollers in the same pool with cash funding players. I'm not saying they shouldn't participate in the contest..they just need to keep their own points prizes separated from the cash funded players pot.

[Richkas]

As a player who funds accounts every year I would love the weekly cash payouts to go to the other fellow cash funding posters who support DSI (the sponsor) with their money. Like Dark Horse said if I was the only cash winner beating all the other free rollers and have my cash price being watered down with points awarded to other posters who did not cash fund the sponsor I would be extremely pissed off.

There is no need to keep the free rollers in the same pool with cash funding players. I'm not saying they shouldn't participate in the contest..they just need to keep their own points prizes separated from the cash funded players pot.

I agree. But they are not doing it that way. If they did, I would make the deposit. But I'll be goddamn if I'm going to deposit and lose 1 game and let 5 freeloaders beat me out of top prize with perfect records.

[Dark Horse]

I don't think the Prick got the message yet. His video is full of talk about real players. And now his prickly contest has been turned into the exact opposite.

What do you have to say about THAT, Kindergarten Prickster?!

[pavyracer]

I don't think the Prick got the message yet. His video is full of talk about real players. And now his prickly contest has been turned into the exact opposite.

What do you have to say about THAT, Kindergarten Prickster?!

If you listen between 1:15 - 1:50 he is very specific in that only cash funded players will share the loot and free loaders can kiss his ass..