Death Penalty - cant understand why you are still doing it

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  • diamond
    SBR MVP
    • 02-09-06
    • 3636

    #1
    Death Penalty - cant understand why you are still doing it
    Except from still using checks as payment method which is really not modern,death penalty doesnt suit a modern country like the US.

    Yeah there are a lot of scums, still,its just no good.
  • Holtgetsback
    SBR MVP
    • 01-04-10
    • 4655

    #2
    agreed.

    costs more than life in prison in most cases as well
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    • MastaB
      SBR MVP
      • 11-08-08
      • 2604

      #3
      Death penalty is rarely used most states, and not at all in some.

      It needs to be an option, it cant be eliminated completely. Some people need to be put down....example: Habitual murderers and rapists. I also believe that someone who is convicted of molested a child for the second time, should be killed on site.

      Some people can simply contribute nothing good to society.
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      • JW Cash
        SBR MVP
        • 12-31-08
        • 4453

        #4
        People have always killed other people since dawn of civilization....


        And they always will....


        And why bring this up NOW...with Game 7 of NBA Finals happening 2nite...thats way more important
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        • Dad
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-26-08
          • 23245

          #5
          Rapists, murderers, child abusers, terrorists = fry em.
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          • Holtgetsback
            SBR MVP
            • 01-04-10
            • 4655

            #6
            a huge number of people executed have been found innocent after the fact.

            and more will as well. a shame most ignore this
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            • nobs
              Restricted User
              • 08-31-09
              • 4216

              #7
              I think we should keep doing it. It gives me something to look forward to.

              Oh yeah, there is one in Utah tonight right ?
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              • Dad
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-26-08
                • 23245

                #8
                I saw a documentary on TV years ago and there was an interview with a 20-year old female who was serving life in prison for murder. She lived in a state were capitol punishment wasn’t allowed. She basically said she would rather have death than be locked in prison because in prison for the rest of her life she had lost “hope”. To her, not having hope for anything left for her life was worse than life itself. I thought that was eye-opening.
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                • Andy117
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-07-10
                  • 9511

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MastaB
                  Death penalty is rarely used most states, and not at all in some.

                  It needs to be an option, it cant be eliminated completely. Some people need to be put down....example: Habitual murderers and rapists. I also believe that someone who is convicted of molested a child for the second time, should be killed on site.

                  Some people can simply contribute nothing good to society.
                  The problem is that it costs a fortune just to get it done. I'm ok with the death penalty in cases of unquestionable guilt of murderers, traitors to the US but there has to be absolutely no doubt.
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                  • MastaB
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-08-08
                    • 2604

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                    a huge number of people executed have been found innocent after the fact.

                    and more will as well. a shame most ignore this

                    A much larger number of women and children life's are ruined rapists and child abusers in a SINGLE day.

                    Its all how you look at it pal. It needs to be left an option.
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                    • philswin
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-18-07
                      • 1279

                      #11
                      Should be up to the victim or family of the victim
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                      • Holtgetsback
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-04-10
                        • 4655

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MastaB
                        A much larger number of women and children life's are ruined rapists and child abusers in a SINGLE day.

                        Its all how you look at it pal. It needs to be left an option.
                        so why not lock them up and throw away the key?

                        costs tax payers less money and is a harsher penalty.

                        You act like if the death penalty isn't implemented than the accused is going to walk out of prison
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                        • MastaB
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-08-08
                          • 2604

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Andy117
                          The problem is that it costs a fortune just to get it done. I'm ok with the death penalty in cases of unquestionable guilt of murderers, traitors to the US but there has to be absolutely no doubt.
                          They system makes it a huge cost. I cant do anything about that or I would. 3 bullets don't cost much. 1 in the heart, two in the head.

                          It cost us more to keep these kind of people on the streets or in jail than back on the streets.
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                          • minet123
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-17-07
                            • 10280

                            #14
                            Because the American justice system is not based on justice, it's based on vengeance
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                            • Emily_Haines
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-09
                              • 15917

                              #15
                              If this country hates Iran and North Korea so bad why not gather all this trash up give them a parachute and fly them over the middle of these countries and push them out.
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                              • Dad
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-26-08
                                • 23245

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                If this country hates Iran and North Korea so bad why not gather all this trash up give them a parachute and fly them over the middle of these countries and push them out.
                                I fukkin love this idea!!
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                                • nobs
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 08-31-09
                                  • 4216

                                  #17
                                  Yeah I am sure there is no way a murderer who just got kicked out a parachute in a terrorist sponsoring state could be used as a terrorist
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                                  • DrStale
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 9692

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by philswin
                                    Should be up to the victim or family of the victim
                                    No, it really shouldn't.
                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #19
                                      The death penalty is the best prevention for future crimes. No one executed has ever broken the law again.
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        The problem is not the death penalty. I'm all for it.

                                        The problem is the judicial system, which is far from clean and where 'justice' can be bought.
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                                        • eidolon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-02-08
                                          • 9531

                                          #21
                                          I'm surprised someone hasn't just poisoned all the sick ****s in prison. Just a little of whatever in their food...
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                                          • nosniboR11
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-02-08
                                            • 10042

                                            #22
                                            Why i love living in texas , we don not mess around

                                            boooooooooooooooooooooooom
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                                            • empty cookie jar
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-14-10
                                              • 876

                                              #23
                                              in cases where there is incontrovertible evidence of guilt, i say limit them to one appeal and fry them within a year....much stronger deterrant than a killer who knows he will have 10 to 15 years before the sentence is carried out
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                                              • Ryangene
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 12-04-08
                                                • 3381

                                                #24
                                                I can't believe the guy that is getting the death penalty soon chose the firing squad...
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                                                • Brock Landers
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                  • 45359

                                                  #25
                                                  if you can't do the time, don't do the crime
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                                                  • empty cookie jar
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-14-10
                                                    • 876

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Ryangene
                                                    I can't believe the guy that is getting the death penalty soon chose the firing squad...
                                                    it's the media's fault....they brought this up a few months ago, and the guy chose the firing squad so he wouldn't look like a puss
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                                                    • Cougar Bait
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-04-07
                                                      • 18282

                                                      #27
                                                      We should just go back to hanging people in the public square. That's cheap as hell.

                                                      Also if it were up to me anyone caught having sex with a very young child (DNA evidence) would have their genitals removed on PPV, and the money would go to the family of the violated child. My guess is there would be less sex offenders.
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                                                      • DrStale
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                                                        • 12-07-08
                                                        • 9692

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                        Why i love living in texas , we don not mess around

                                                        boooooooooooooooooooooooom
                                                        If you call sentencing the guy after a lengthy and expensive trial, then paying for his meals and other intangibles for 15 years while he trots out every lawyer tactic in the book to try and get himself off or delay the execution, costing your state an ungodly amount of money "not messing around" then yes, you guys don't mess around.
                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                        • BadNina
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-27-07
                                                          • 10491

                                                          #29
                                                          We can't just lock them up and throw away the key. The prisons are too crowded now. Besides rarely does a life sentence actually mean life. It's usually computed to be a 25 year sentence. And unless you are a habitual offender, you only have to serve one-third of that before you can be EOS'ed (end of sentence).
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                                                          • DrStale
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                                                            • 12-07-08
                                                            • 9692

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BadNina
                                                            We can't just lock them up and throw away the key. The prisons are too crowded now. Besides rarely does a life sentence actually mean life. It's usually computed to be a 25 year sentence. And unless you are a habitual offender, you only have to serve one-third of that before you can be EOS'ed (end of sentence).
                                                            "Life without possibility of parole" is still cheaper than doing 'em in. Let the pot dealers go and you'll find plenty of room for the murderers and rapists.
                                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                            • Richkas
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-03-08
                                                              • 19396

                                                              #31
                                                              My friend Butch told me that the last prison he was in would get like $190 dollars a day from the state for every day he was in jail. If people think that is cheaper than the death penalty than they are wrong.
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                                                              • BadNina
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-27-07
                                                                • 10491

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DrStale
                                                                "Life without possibility of parole" is still cheaper than doing 'em in. Let the pot dealers go and you'll find plenty of room for the murderers and rapists.
                                                                Cant do that either because whether you like it nor not, dealing pot is illegal in this country. You break the law and get caught you go to jail. Unless you are an illegal alien, of course.
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                                                                • DrStale
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                                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                                  • 9692

                                                                  #33
                                                                  And whether you like it or not, it is those generally victimless crimes that are overcrowding the prisons and sending the big time criminals back to the streets. Personally, id rather have the rapists locked away until there's a better solution.
                                                                  Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                  If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                                  • Justin7
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                                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                                    • 8577

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Executions are expensive. Killing a typical prisoner will cost $2-3 million. This is much more expensive than keeping them in prison for life. A country with a decent (not great) criminal justice system has many appeals to catch false positives. Despite this, many innocents are executed. Many studies have been done on the deterrent effect of executions. How much does capital punishment weigh in the mind of would-be bad guys ready to kill others? Virtually nil. States that implement capital punishment see almost no change in murder rates.

                                                                    What are the real benefits of capital punishment? Society feels better. Revenge. Few things in life make people feel better than knowing that a bad-guy "Got what he deserved." For $2-3 million, a bad-guy is fried/shot/hung/injected, and lots of people feel really good about criminal justice. Sure, some people don't, but they are a minority. Governments are in the habit of throwing away small fortunes to make people feel good.

                                                                    Compare executions to building a new stadium, or hosting the Olympics. Both ALWAYS cost the hosting area much more money than the economic benefits they receive. But these improvements, as with public executions, make people feel happy. Dollar for dollar, executions are much more effective than the Olympics in fulfilling the lives of locals.
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                                                                    • TheLock
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-06-08
                                                                      • 14427

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Holtgetsback
                                                                      a huge number of people executed have been found innocent after the fact.

                                                                      and more will as well. a shame most ignore this

                                                                      A "huge" number?


                                                                      Just how huge of a number?
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