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  • JohnGalt2341
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    • 12-31-09
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    #1
    2024 State by State Election No-Vig %'s and more!
    This is the State by State No-Vig percentage odds that each candidate has of winning that particular State according to Bovada and Polymarket, as of today. The first percentage you see is Bovada's No-Vig percentage odds, the 2nd is Polymarket. The 3rd number you see is the number of electoral votes for that particular State. The last number you see is the ranking of that State from "Smartest to Dumbest" according to World Population Review. E.g. if the last number is number 1, it means WPR considers them the Smartest State. If their number is 50, it means WPR considers them the Dumbest State. For this last category, the numbers 1-25 will be in Green(top 50%), and the numbers 26-50 will be in Red. Any questions?

    States Trump is favored, and his % chances of Winning these States:

    .33. Nebraska(District 1) 94.98%/98% 2 11
    1. Alabama 94.98%/97% 9 43
    2. Kentucky 94.98%/97% 8 40
    2.66. Nebraska(District 3) 94.98%/94% 2 11
    4. Wyoming 93.69%/99% 3 21
    5. West Virginia 93.69%/97% 4 50
    6. Tennessee 93.69%/96% 11 38
    7. Arkansas 93.69%/96% 6 47
    8. South Dakota 93.69%/96% 3 31
    9. North Dakota 93.69%/96% 3 23
    10. South Carolina 93.69%/95% 9 41
    11. Mississippi 93.69%/95% 6 49
    12. Missouri 92.17%/97% 10 27
    13. Montana 92.17%/97% 4 18
    14. Indiana 92.17%/96% 11 36

    15. Louisiana 92.17%/96% 8 48
    16. Oklahoma 92.17%/95% 7 44
    17. Idaho 92.17%/95% 4 35
    18. Iowa 92.17%/94% 6 26
    19. Kansas 92.17%/94% 6 14
    20. Utah 91.06%/95% 6 15
    21. Ohio 91.06%/94% 17 25
    22. Alaska 90.63%/93% 3 29
    23. Texas 88.98%/89% 40 42
    23.5. Maine(District 2) 88.98%/87% 1 13
    24. Florida 79.2%/88% 30 39
    25. North Carolina 72.85%/69% 16 32
    26. Arizona 62.5%/61% 11 37
    27. Georgia 60.91%/61% 16 33
    28. Nevada 60.91%/60% 6 46


    States Kamala is favored, and her % chances of Winning these States:

    1. Washington D.C. 93.69%/96% 3 N/A
    2. Delaware 92.17%/97% 3 24
    3. California 92.17%/95% 54 34
    4. Maryland 92.17%/95% 10 3
    5. Washington 91.48%/96% 12 10
    6. Illinois 91.48%/95% 19 19
    7. Hawaii 91.48%/95% 4 30
    8. Massachusetts 91.06%/96% 11 1
    9. Vermont 91.06%/95% 3 5
    10. Connecticut 90.13%/94% 7 2
    11. Rhode Island 90.13%/94% 4 20
    12. New York 89.55%/94% 28 12
    13. Oregon 88.28%/93% 8 17
    13.5. Maine(District 1) 88.28%/90% 3 13
    14. Colorado 84.38%/91% 10 8
    15. New Jersey 82.65%/91% 14 7
    16. New Mexico 80.28%/86% 5 45
    17. Minnesota 79.2%/83% 10 9
    18. New Hampshire 70.59%/75% 4 6

    18.33. Nebraska(District 2) 67.8%/66% 1 11
    20. Virginia 66%/79% 13 4
    21. Michigan 53.06%/54% 15 28
    22. Wisconsin 53.06%/47% 10 22

    23. Pennsylvania 50%/57% 19 16


    Because a couple of States have Districts, it's not exactly perfect. I sort of rushed through this so... if you see any mistakes, let me know.

    Also... here's the percentages I did from 4 years ago, if you'd like to compare.



    I made the thread above in early July of 2020. Out of the 50 States(and DC), there were only 2 upsets. And they weren't big upsets by any means. All I will say about this election is... if Bovada and Polymarket are right... it looks VERY close.
    Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 08-03-24, 04:31 PM. Reason: Nebraska and Maine are goofy.
  • Art Vandelay
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    • 09-11-06
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    #2
    My count:

    266 - Trump
    268 - Kammy

    So 4 votes are missing which obviously are crucial in such a tight race.

    If she wins Mich, Wis, and Pa - Not sure how she loses. Will be interesting...
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    • JohnGalt2341
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      #3
      Originally posted by Art Vandelay
      My count:

      266 - Trump
      268 - Kammy

      So 4 votes are missing which obviously are crucial in such a tight race.


      If she wins Mich, Wis, and Pa - Not sure how she loses. Will be interesting...
      I got the same count. I'll try to figure out where the missing ones are later this afternoon when I have more time.
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      • DwightShrute
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        • 01-17-09
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        #4
        Republicans 326
        Democrats 212
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        • JohnGalt2341
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          #5
          Originally posted by Art Vandelay
          My count:

          266 - Trump
          268 - Kammy

          So 4 votes are missing which obviously are crucial in such a tight race.


          If she wins Mich, Wis, and Pa - Not sure how she loses. Will be interesting...
          I figured it out... it's because Nebraska and Maine uniquely allocate 2 votes to the State Winner, and 1 vote to each congressional district winner. I wasn't including the 2 extra votes for each State Winner, hence 4 votes short. It should be right now. So... that would mean it would be 270 KH, and 268 Trump, assuming KH wins the State of ME, and Trump wins NE. AND, also assuming the prices stay the same... and they get them all right... lol. Could happen...
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            #6
            John, you've done great work on this.

            The betting markets seem to like Trump. I now tend to agree for a few reasons:

            1) People are waking up to a lot of problems in the USA. Most of that was on the Biden watch.
            2) Any DEM candidate (like Harris) is not particular appealling to the voting constituency.
            3) I mentioned this about Trump. He's a businessman. He has some speaking ability, which means that he has the ability to persuade.
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • ChuckyTheGoat
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              #7
              In round numbers, it's currently: Trump -122, Field (vs Trump) +102.
              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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              • Itsamazing777
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                • 11-14-12
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                #8
                Originally posted by DwightShrute
                Republicans 326
                Democrats 212
                I have similar numbers...
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                • DwightShrute
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                  I have similar numbers...

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                  • Ian
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                    • 11-09-09
                    • 6056

                    #10
                    The national polls are very close, but the line on the popular vote at betonline/sportsbetting is Harris -270 Trump +210. If there is value on one side I would think it would have to be Trump +210.
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                    • JohnGalt2341
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ian
                      The national polls are very close, but the line on the popular vote at betonline/sportsbetting is Harris -270 Trump +210. If there is value on one side I would think it would have to be Trump +210.
                      It would seem that way, but I think Trump's chances of winning the popular vote are very slim, I would say less than 25%. Keep in mind, there are A LOT of California votes, among other Liberal States. I wouldn't bet on either one of these at these prices. I think it's priced about right. But if I had to choose, I think the KH for popular vote has a better value here, even at -270. This may even keep rising. It wouldn't surprise me if it was -300 or more by election time.
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                      • JohnGalt2341
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                        Republicans 326
                        Democrats 212
                        Originally posted by Itsamazing777

                        I have similar numbers...
                        Here you go boys... at BetOnline:



                        Post your ticket, and I'll throw you 1 Betpoint for every dollar you wagered.

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                        • Itsamazing777
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                          Here you go boys... at BetOnline:



                          Post your ticket, and I'll throw you 1 Betpoint for every dollar you wagered.

                          I have 311 for Trump. Looks like a sharp line. No value in betting the under for me.
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                          • JohnGalt2341
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                            I have 311 for Trump. Looks like a sharp line. No value in betting the under for me.
                            Yeah but... it's +250. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you read it wrong. At +250, all you need is a 29% chance to have a Positive Expected Value. E.g. if you think it's a coin flip at 311, your ROI should be around 75% at +250. That's absolutely fantastic!!! You're not going to find a better deal than this!!!!

                            Also... you should bet the Over... not the Under.

                            One more thing... I HATE when Books put the Under on the top line and the Over on the bottom line. It's very deceiving. BetOnline does this quite a bit.
                            Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 08-05-24, 06:31 PM.
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                            • semibluff
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                              #15
                              To get to 312 Trump has to win all 7 states of NC, GA, NV, AZ, MI, WI, & PA.

                              I still think it's the most likely election outcome but obviously there are a huge number of other permutations. There are 7 other outcomes just for MI, WI, & PA, and 6 of those 7 outcomes would probably win Trump the election. NH could possibly be in play but Trump getting more than 312 looks highly unlikely.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83693

                                #16
                                Gotta be a tard to vote for Kamala Harris. She has arguably been the worst VP in American history.

                                I have very little faith in the American voters though as they will get blasted with Kamala fake hype and Trump hate commercials and she will have the full backing of the fake news media. Trump is up against it now.

                                Bottom line is - if you like tight borders, money and a great economy and no world wars you vote Trump. Just that simple as he has been proven, Kamala Harris has not.

                                That's keeping it real and simple!


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                                • JohnGalt2341
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by semibluff
                                  To get to 312 Trump has to win all 7 states of NC, GA, NV, AZ, MI, WI, & PA.

                                  I still think it's the most likely election outcome but obviously there are a huge number of other permutations. There are 7 other outcomes just for MI, WI, & PA, and 6 of those 7 outcomes would probably win Trump the election. NH could possibly be in play but Trump getting more than 312 looks highly unlikely.
                                  What percent chance would you give Trump of winning all 7 of these states?(anyone can play along here, if you'd like to).

                                  Here are the current No-Vig percentages for Trump at each of these States according to Bovada and Polymarket:

                                  North Carolina 72.85%/69%(same as 1st post)
                                  Georgia 58.35%/58%(Trump has dropped since 1st post)
                                  Nevada 60.91%/58%(Trump dropped at PM)
                                  Arizona 62.5%/61%(Same)
                                  Michigan 46.94%/44%(Dropped slightly at PM)
                                  Wisconsin 46.94%/52%(Dropped slightly at PM)
                                  Pennsylvania 50%/43%(Same)

                                  This looks about right to me. I expect Trump to win 4 of these States, but it wouldn't surprise me if he only won 3. And if he wins 5 or more, I will be fairly suprised. Keep in mind that Trump is a loose cannon. At any given moment he could say something that could get millions of people(particularly women and or blacks) to vote against him. Trump has the rural elderly white male vote locked up. But that's about it really. I fully expect him to lose the debate vs Kamala, that is... if he even has the balls to debate her.

                                  A college football team that is ranked 50th in the country is going to look pretty damn good vs the worst team in the nation. But vs a team that is ranked in the top 40, they aren't going to look nearly as good.
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                                  • semibluff
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                    What percent chance would you give Trump of winning all 7 of these states?(anyone can play along here, if you'd like to).

                                    Here are the current No-Vig percentages for Trump at each of these States according to Bovada and Polymarket:

                                    North Carolina 72.85%/69%(same as 1st post)
                                    Georgia 58.35%/58%(Trump has dropped since 1st post)
                                    Nevada 60.91%/58%(Trump dropped at PM)
                                    Arizona 62.5%/61%(Same)
                                    Michigan 46.94%/44%(Dropped slightly at PM)
                                    Wisconsin 46.94%/52%(Dropped slightly at PM)
                                    Pennsylvania 50%/43%(Same)

                                    This looks about right to me. I expect Trump to win 4 of these States, but it wouldn't surprise me if he only won 3. And if he wins 5 or more, I will be fairly suprised. Keep in mind that Trump is a loose cannon. At any given moment he could say something that could get millions of people(particularly women and or blacks) to vote against him. Trump has the rural elderly white male vote locked up. But that's about it really. I fully expect him to lose the debate vs Kamala, that is... if he even has the balls to debate her.

                                    A college football team that is ranked 50th in the country is going to look pretty damn good vs the worst team in the nation. But vs a team that is ranked in the top 40, they aren't going to look nearly as good.
                                    If I base my answer on the numbers you've posted in this quote Trump would be about +340 to win all 7 states. As i've previously posted I think Harris will peak in the next week or so and that Trump is better placed than polls and odds currently show. The true odds number for Trump sweeping those 7 states could be as low as +200. I expect Harris' poll numbers to slowly slip away. Obviously that could be wrong and Harris could be a big favourite 6 weeks from now.
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                                    • JohnGalt2341
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                      John, you've done great work on this.

                                      The betting markets seem to like Trump. I now tend to agree for a few reasons:

                                      1) People are waking up to a lot of problems in the USA. Most of that was on the Biden watch.
                                      2) Any DEM candidate (like Harris) is not particular appealling to the voting constituency.
                                      3) I mentioned this about Trump. He's a businessman. He has some speaking ability, which means that he has the ability to persuade.
                                      Thanks!

                                      Trump filed for bankruptcy on somewhere between 3 to 6 Casino's. I worked in a Casino for several years. It's hard for me to imagine that this could even be possible. Not to mention dozens of his other failed businesses(many of which were just flat out scams). What he's good at is conning people(particularly elderly white men, especially in the deep south). That's what he's skilled at. He's quite masterful at this in fact. He's not much different than a TV evangelist IMO. He cons the same type of people as well. The only thing I would hire Trump for is being a telemarketer. Other than that, he's worse than useless at virtually everything.

                                      He may very well win though. The numbers in Red in the first post is where he's getting the majority of his votes. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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                                      • homie1975
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                                        • 12-24-13
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                                        My count:

                                        266 - Trump
                                        268 - Kammy

                                        So 4 votes are missing which obviously are crucial in such a tight race.

                                        If she wins Mich, Wis, and Pa - Not sure how she loses. Will be interesting...
                                        those 4 votes are the splits in MAINE and NEBRASKA

                                        i always have to spoonfeed you guys around here.

                                        leave it to me, the most dialed in political person on this site.
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                                        • homie1975
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                                          • 12-24-13
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                                          #21
                                          270 Kamala (wins the rust belt)
                                          268 Trump (wins the sun belt)
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                                          • JohnGalt2341
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                            those 4 votes are the splits in MAINE and NEBRASKA

                                            i always have to spoonfeed you guys around here.

                                            leave it to me, the most dialed in political person on this site.
                                            Thanks. But I figured this out the next day(when I had more time) and corrected it. See post #5.

                                            Like I said in post #1, I rushed through this. I suspected that I made a mistake or 2.
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                                            • ttwarrior1
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                                              #23
                                              Here's on for you.
                                              Im in Kentucky.
                                              Kamala will win the brainwashed Kentucky community
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                                              • homie1975
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                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                #24
                                                Dwight and ItsAmazing you are both so PHUKKING DUMB

                                                2018 you lost

                                                2020 you lost

                                                2022 you lost

                                                you just do NOT learn do you !!!
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                                                • DwightShrute
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                                                  • 01-17-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by homo1975
                                                  I is so PHUKKING DUMB

                                                  2018 America lost

                                                  2020 America lost

                                                  2022 America lost

                                                  you just do NOT learn do you !!!
                                                  fixed it for ya poopy pants

                                                  2016 America won

                                                  2024 America wins


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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Honeymoon phase. Americans will wake up again to real policy issues that don't work with these two clowns.
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                                                    • Ian
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                                                      • 11-09-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                      What percent chance would you give Trump of winning all 7 of these states?(anyone can play along here, if you'd like to).
                                                      IMO this is super hard to quantify. The latest polls I've seen are all trending toward Harris, but in the past state election results are highly correlated. If there is some factor that tilts support toward Trump in one state it will likely tip support to him in other states also. Without crunching any data myself, I would think a model/Monte Carlo sim would show that a significant portion of Trump's wins are routs with all/most of the swing states going for him. Whether this is a large/small enough % to make a bet at +250 or -400 +EV I have no idea.
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                                                      • JohnGalt2341
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                                                        #28
                                                        It's been 6 days since my original post. I may do updates on the "Swing" States around once a week or so. I'm going to consider a swing State any State where the average percentage is less than 75% or so for either candidate. The first 2 percentages you see will be the same as the original post. The next set after the dash, are the current percentages. Percentages in Red mean an increase for Trump since the original post(August 1st), percentages in Blue mean an increase for KH.

                                                        Swing States Trump is favored:

                                                        25. North Carolina 72.85%/69%-76.6%/68%
                                                        26. Arizona 62.5%/61%-62.5%/59%
                                                        27. Georgia 60.91%/61%-58.35%/55%
                                                        28. Nevada 60.91%/60%-60.91%/54%

                                                        Swing States KH is favored:

                                                        18.33. Nebraska(District 2) 67.8%/66%-67.8%/87%
                                                        20. Virginia 66%/79%-66%/83%
                                                        21. Michigan 53.06%/54%-59.15%/62%
                                                        22. Wisconsin 53.06%/47%-53.06%/52%

                                                        23. Pennsylvania 50%/57%-51.01%/52%

                                                        For the most part, it looks like the "Honeymoon" has continued. 1 major difference was KH dropped 5% at Polymarket for the State of PA. I think that's to be expected after her VP pick. This could very well cost her the election. We shall see.
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                                                        • raiders72001
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                          It's been 6 days since my original post. I may do updates on the "Swing" States around once a week or so. I'm going to consider a swing State any State where the average percentage is less than 75% or so for either candidate. The first 2 percentages you see will be the same as the original post. The next set after the dash, are the current percentages. Percentages in Red mean an increase for Trump since the original post(August 1st), percentages in Blue mean an increase for KH.

                                                          Swing States Trump is favored:

                                                          25. North Carolina 72.85%/69%-76.6%/68%
                                                          26. Arizona 62.5%/61%-62.5%/59%
                                                          27. Georgia 60.91%/61%-58.35%/55%
                                                          28. Nevada 60.91%/60%-60.91%/54%

                                                          Swing States KH is favored:

                                                          18.33. Nebraska(District 2) 67.8%/66%-67.8%/87%
                                                          20. Virginia 66%/79%-66%/83%
                                                          21. Michigan 53.06%/54%-59.15%/62%
                                                          22. Wisconsin 53.06%/47%-53.06%/52%

                                                          23. Pennsylvania 50%/57%-51.01%/52%

                                                          For the most part, it looks like the "Honeymoon" has continued. 1 major difference was KH dropped 5% at Polymarket for the State of PA. I think that's to be expected after her VP pick. This could very well cost her the election. We shall see.
                                                          Agree, she needed that PA boost. It all comes down to PA in my book.
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                                                          • homie1975
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                                                            • 12-24-13
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                            Agree, she needed that PA boost. It all comes down to PA in my book.
                                                            mathematically speaking, if KH loses PA (and the 19 electoral votes) she has less than a 10% chance to win the election because she will need GA (16 votes) plus either AZ (11 votes) or NV (6 votes) to make up the deficit.

                                                            so we are all in agreement that PA for Trump means he wins.

                                                            PA for Harris means she is in contention to win but still needs MI and WI.

                                                            this has a great chance of being a 270-268 electoral win for Harris

                                                            or

                                                            an electoral blowout for Trump

                                                            GUARANTEE Harris wins popular vote, but all that matters is Electoral.
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                                                            • JohnGalt2341
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                              Republicans 326
                                                              Democrats 212
                                                              Originally posted by Itsamazing777

                                                              I have similar numbers...
                                                              Here you go boys... you can get EVEN BETTER prices now.

                                                              At BetOnline:



                                                              And at Bovada:



                                                              Post your ticket, and I'll throw you 1 BetPoint for every dollar you wagered. If you consider 311 a coinflip, it means your ROI is virtually at 100%!!! What a deal!!!
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                                                              • Itsamazing777
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                                Here you go boys... you can get EVEN BETTER prices now.

                                                                At BetOnline:



                                                                And at Bovada:



                                                                Post your ticket, and I'll throw you 1 BetPoint for every dollar you wagered. If you consider 311 a coinflip, it means your ROI is virtually at 100%!!! What a deal!!!
                                                                Are you trying to manipulate the line to your favor by us doing that?
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                                                                • JohnGalt2341
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                  Are you trying to manipulate the line to your favor by us doing that?


                                                                  I assure you that I will NOT be betting on this(I only make wagers when I believe my EV is positive). Also, I highly doubt you and Dwight are going to move the Lines at BOTH Bovada and BetOnline. You should know my political betting track record by now. I'm mostly trying to help you guys make money(in the political threads you've seen me in, how often do I beat the Closing Line in wagers that I say that like?).

                                                                  And if I'm being completely honest, I mostly want to see if you guys will put your money where your mouth is. I suspect that you won't, just like your hero(Trump said he weighs 215, but we all know that he would NEVER EVER step on a scale). And you guys are doing a very good job at confirming my suspicions. It confirms my belief as to why you support Trump to begin with. He's a bullshitter and a CON, just like his many of his supporters, that's why they admire him to begin with. It's simple MATH.

                                                                  Post your ticket and shut me up!... it's as simple as that.

                                                                  Let me know if you want to see any of my tickets. I will gladly show you(as I already have).
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Expect Camel toe Harris to drop in the polls soon. Still think Trump has this if he debates her and closes out strong.
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                                                                    • JohnGalt2341
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      Expect Camel toe Harris to drop in the polls soon. Still think Trump has this if he debates her and closes out strong.




                                                                      I've said it before and I'll say it again, fans of Trump identify with him. They see themselves in Trump. They act just like him, in multiple ways. Btw, did any of you guys buy his shoes?

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