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very plausible College Football Playoff chaos scenario next weekend
Sugar Bowl : Michigan vs. Alabama
Rose Bowl : Washington vs. Texas
Of course, this is assuming Michigan wins tonight. Florida St. is out whether they win or not.
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#142
Originally posted by Da Manster!
I was just telling my buddy and former roommate on messenger that is exactly what is wrong the system right now. too much prejudice, biased, and preferential treatment for the SEC! Bulldogs played a shitty schedule! they should get treated the same way as most other teams do. This year's SEC championship game was a basically a de-facto elimination playoff game.
Yeah, fukk the Dawgs. They had their chance playing in their home state and got cooked. Exit stage left.
You schedule Tenn-Martin, Ball State, and UAB in the non-con then you don't get to cry about being left out of the dance after a loss in your most recent game. Plus, they didn't even have to play LSU. Cupcake City!
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17596
#143
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
If the Noles and Wolverines win then it should be:
Washington
FSU
Texas
Michigan
It doesn't matter what you guys think of Florida State, they've earned the right to lose to an opponent on the field and not merely in the minds of a bunch of suits.
well said Edward...well said! I told my friend the same thing verbatim earlier this afternoon! It doesn't matter if FLA ST gets crushed in the playoffs, if they win ACC and go undefeated in a major conference they EARNED that right to get their asses kicked!
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mjsuax13
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-14-15
25029
#144
Originally posted by Mr KLC
Sugar Bowl : Michigan vs. Alabama
Rose Bowl : Washington vs. Texas
Of course, this is assuming Michigan wins tonight. Florida St. is out whether they win or not.
This seems spot on.
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asiagambler
SBR Hall of Famer
07-23-17
6827
#145
Originally posted by Da Manster!
I was just telling my buddy and former roommate on messenger that is exactly what is wrong the system right now. too much prejudice, biased, and preferential treatment for the SEC! Bulldogs played a shitty schedule! they should get treated the same way as most other teams do. This year's SEC championship game was a basically a de-facto elimination playoff game.
I don't disagree. Texas is more deserving
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#146
Originally posted by Mr KLC
Sugar Bowl : Michigan vs. Alabama
Rose Bowl : Washington vs. Texas
Of course, this is assuming Michigan wins tonight. Florida St. is out whether they win or not.
I think Florida State could beat Michigan and Washington, and would at least be competitive against the other two. Rodemaker would obviously be good to go by that point, the challenge is staying alive tonight with their 3rd stringer.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15310
#147
here comes BAMA into the Field of 4.
just watch LOL
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17596
#148
Originally posted by Mr KLC
Sugar Bowl : Michigan vs. Alabama
Rose Bowl : Washington vs. Texas
Of course, this is assuming Michigan wins tonight. Florida St. is out whether they win or not.
that of course is exactly what's wrong with the system, KLC! the NOLES get in if they win! yes, over Texas too. Texas beat bama, but don't forget Noles also whooped up on LSU and beat Florida! 2 - 0 against the vaunted SEC! and let's not forget that Texas lost to the Sooners in the Red River shootout so they have no one to blame but themselves if they get left out of the field. Fair or not, dems da' breaks sometimes!
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navyblue81
SBR MVP
11-29-13
4142
#149
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
If the Noles and Wolverines win then it should be:
Washington
FSU
Texas
Michigan
It doesn't matter what you guys think of Florida State, they've earned the right to lose to an opponent on the field and not merely in the minds of a bunch of suits.
No Bama? How do you leave what may be the best possible team in the country out?
This is what pisses me off about this system. What may have been the best team in the country just beat Georgia, who hadn't lost in 29 games, and just won one of the 2 toughest conferences in the country, and we're not going to put them in the Final 4?
I get the Texas argument, sorta, but it's not just Texas vs. Bama. It's Texas vs. Bama vs. Georgia vs. Ohio State. You have to compare ALL the 1-loss teams. You're picking the best team out of those 4.
If Bama is not in, this system is completely fukked up. And I HATE Bama with a passion. But the team I just wateched? They need to be in.
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risKingDigits
SBR Sharp
12-22-21
467
#150
Originally posted by Mr KLC
Sugar Bowl : Michigan vs. Alabama
Rose Bowl : Washington vs. Texas
Of course, this is assuming Michigan wins tonight. Florida St. is out whether they win or not.
Watchable games…imo, I like it.
that being said, with two ranked losses, FSU fits an auto play for me tonight as much as my gut says don’t do it.
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Mr KLC
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-19-07
31111
#151
You also have to factor TV into this. If Florida State wins, you would have to rank them #4 because that game is in New Orleans. There is no way that their fans would travel to Pasadena like the Longhorn, Bulldog, or Tide fans would. It would practically be a home game for the Huskies.
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navyblue81
SBR MVP
11-29-13
4142
#152
Originally posted by Mr KLC
You also have to factor TV into this. If Florida State wins, you would have to rank them #4 because that game is in New Orleans. There is no way that their fans would travel to Pasadena like the Longhorn, Bulldog, or Tide fans would.
FSU played in Pasadena before. They don't factor that crap in. The #1 team picks where they want to play and it goes from there. So Wash vs. FSU in the Rose Bowl would happen just like Oregon vs. FSU in 2014.
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#153
Originally posted by navyblue81
No Bama? How do you leave what may be the best possible team in the country out?
This is what pisses me off about this system. What may have been the best team in the country just beat Georgia, who hadn't lost in 29 games, and just won one of the 2 toughest conferences in the country, and we're not going to put them in the Final 4?
I get the Texas argument, sorta, but it's not just Texas vs. Bama. It's Texas vs. Bama vs. Georgia vs. Ohio State. You have to compare ALL the 1-loss teams. You're picking the best team out of those 4.
If Bama is not in, this system is completely fukked up. And I HATE Bama with a passion. But the team I just wateched? They need to be in.
well, bama lost to texas and nobody can deny they got the luck to beat ga
ga had an offensive guard leave the game and mcconkey and bowers both limping. bams got a turnover and funbled and revovered. bama got a 4th down that should have been overturned. granted bama lost their best corner
but you're rught bama beat Georgia
one sec team.has to get in imo. if it's ga or bama I'm ok witjit
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15310
#154
if Michigan wins they are in, no doubt about it.
FSU no matter what, is outt.
the 4 teams:
Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#155
Originally posted by navyblue81
No Bama? How do you leave what may be the best possible team in the country out?
This is what pisses me off about this system. What may have been the best team in the country just beat Georgia, who hadn't lost in 29 games, and just won one of the 2 toughest conferences in the country, and we're not going to put them in the Final 4?
I get the Texas argument, sorta, but it's not just Texas vs. Bama. It's Texas vs. Bama vs. Georgia vs. Ohio State. You have to compare ALL the 1-loss teams. You're picking the best team out of those 4.
If Bama is not in, this system is completely fukked up. And I HATE Bama with a passion. But the team I just wateched? They need to be in.
For the simple fact that Texas takes their spot based on head-to-head results in Tuscaloosa.
If you want to take it a step further, I'd argue that it took a 4th and 31 miracle to survive the Iron Bowl. You can argue "well a win is a win" but if we're faced with tough decisions then we have to split hairs and put everything under a microscope.
I just think it's a crime to eliminate an undefeated Florida State team (assuming they win tonight) just because their quarterback got hurt. They are still a very talented team top to bottom. Hell, Ohio State won a natty one year with Cardale Jones, after Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett went down.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15310
#156
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
For the simple fact that Texas takes their spot based on head-to-head results in Tuscaloosa.
If you want to take it a step further, I'd argue that it took a 4th and 31 miracle to survive the Iron Bowl. You can argue "well a win is a win" but if we're faced with tough decisions then we have to split hairs and put everything under a microscope.
I just think it's a crime to eliminate an undefeated Florida State team (assuming they win tonight) just because their quarterback got hurt. They are still a very talented team top to bottom. Hell, Ohio State won a natty one year with Cardale Jones after Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett went down.
they had to win 59-0 in the B1G title game that year over Wisky to jump from #5 into the Top 4 and displace #3 TCU.
if Michigan wins they are in, no doubt about it.
FSU no matter what, is out.
the 4 teams:
Michigan
Washington
Texas
Alabama
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#157
fla state weakest schedule plain and simple
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Mr KLC
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-19-07
31111
#158
Originally posted by Da Manster!
that of course is exactly what's wrong with the system, KLC! the NOLES get in if they win! yes, over Texas too. Texas beat bama, but don't forget Noles also whooped up on LSU and beat Florida! 2 - 0 against the vaunted SEC! and let's not forget that Texas lost to the Sooners in the Red River shootout so they have no one to blame but themselves if they get left out of the field. Fair or not, dems da' breaks sometimes!
Texas and Alabama bring more eyes to the TV. It sucks for FSU, but there is no way they are going to keep an SEC team out, and lose higher ratings with an unappealing FSU team. It sucks for the Seminole kids but that is actually the reality. NCAA doesn't want another ratings killer like TCU or like their SDSU/UConn Basketball championship.
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mjsuax13
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-14-15
25029
#159
Is it over for the ACC conference if an undefeated conference champion FSU team is left out?
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Mr KLC
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-19-07
31111
#160
Originally posted by mjsuax13
Is it over for the ACC conference if an undefeated conference champion FSU team is left out?
I think Clemson and FSU seriously look over that deal that goes through 2035 to find an "out" clause.
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#161
a lot may depend on what fla state does vs Louisville
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navyblue81
SBR MVP
11-29-13
4142
#162
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
For the simple fact that Texas takes their spot based on head-to-head results in Tuscaloosa.
If you want to take it a step further, I'd argue that it took a 4th and 31 miracle to survive the Iron Bowl. You can argue "well a win is a win" but if we're faced with tough decisions then we have to split hairs and put everything under a microscope.
I just think it's a crime to eliminate an undefeated Florida State team (assuming they win tonight) just because their quarterback got hurt. They are still a very talented team top to bottom. Hell, Ohio State won a natty one year with Cardale Jones, after Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett went down.
1) Texas had a few close calls against inferior opponents, too. They struggled with Wyoming AT HOME early in the year.
2) You have to factor in the qb position with FSU COMBINED with their schedule. Outside of a win vs. LSU, I'm just not impressed with their resume when compared to Bama's or even Texas. Those two teams beat 1-2 top 10 teams. Bama beat a #1 team. FSU's best win was against a #15 team.
3) Again, it's not just head to head vs. Bama and Texas. You have to factor in Georgia and Ohio State because they also have one loss. In the end, if FSU wins and I assume they get in, you take all four of those teams and compare/contrast. And you have to factor in the SEC being a better conference than the no-defense Big 12.
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risKingDigits
SBR Sharp
12-22-21
467
#163
Have got to route for FSU to make the committee chose
never left out a undefeated power 5 conference champ
never has the SEC been left out
Have to believe FSU or Texas exits stage
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17596
#164
Originally posted by navyblue81
No Bama? How do you leave what may be the best possible team in the country out?
This is what pisses me off about this system. What may have been the best team in the country just beat Georgia, who hadn't lost in 29 games, and just won one of the 2 toughest conferences in the country, and we're not going to put them in the Final 4?
I get the Texas argument, sorta, but it's not just Texas vs. Bama. It's Texas vs. Bama vs. Georgia vs. Ohio State. You have to compare ALL the 1-loss teams. You're picking the best team out of those 4.
If Bama is not in, this system is completely fukked up. And I HATE Bama with a passion. But the team I just wateched? They need to be in.
Well maybe Georgia was just a tad overrated...and by that I mean they played a garbage schedule and didn't beat anyone of significance? Sorry but the Tide got their asses kicked by the horns on their home field. Head-to-head number one barometer and measuring stick when it comes to tie breakers.
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#165
if fla st wins by double digits they're going
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#166
Originally posted by homie1975
they had to win 59-0 in the B1G title game that year over Wisky to jump from #5 into the Top 4 and displace #3 TCU.
if Michigan wins they are in, no doubt about it.
FSU no matter what, is out.
The point is nobody knew what Cardale Jones could do until he did it, and he was a 3rd stringer. Nobody really knows what Rodemaker can do, but don't seem interested in giving him a shot.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17596
#167
Originally posted by Mr KLC
I think Clemson and FSU seriously look over that deal that goes through 2035 to find an "out" clause.
both them have already discussed leaving the ACC throughout the year. There is a big rift with TV revenue sharing, or at least that's part of it and both Clemson and FLA ST want the lions share.
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#168
committee got anl lucky out for fla state this guy rodemaker has a concussion 3rd string qv
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navyblue81
SBR MVP
11-29-13
4142
#169
Originally posted by Da Manster!
Well maybe Georgia was just a tad overrated...and by that I mean they played a garbage schedule and didn't beat anyone of significance? Sorry but the Tide got their asses kicked by the horns on their home field. Head-to-head number one barometer and measuring stick when it comes to tie breakers.
They beat two top-12 teams lol FSU didn’t beat anyone in the top 12.
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#170
Originally posted by budwiser
committee got anl lucky out for fla state this guy rodemaker has a concussion 3rd string qv
Yeah but the Noles will probably still win. That'll put the committee right back on the hotseat because Rodemaker would be fine by the playoffs.
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Mr KLC
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-19-07
31111
#171
If FSU wins, they keep them out, and then do their public relations thing by saying that is why they expanded to the Top12 teams starting next year, so deserving teams like FSU, Georgia, and Ohio State all get a fair shot.
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coop-dog
SBR MVP
07-11-20
1025
#172
how do you keep texas out they beat alabama? shouldnt bama and georgia be out?
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Eddy Munny
Benched
08-13-13
15769
#173
Originally posted by navyblue81
They beat two top-12 teams lol FSU didn’t beat anyone in the top 12.
Lol, Missouri and Miss? Big deal. Clemson and LSU are every bit as good or better than those two. Rankings are meaningless.
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#174
Originally posted by Eddy Munny
Yeah but the Noles will probably still win. That'll put the committee right back on the hotseat because Rodemaker would be fine by the playoffs.
true boxed in by putting noles 4
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budwiser
SBR MVP
11-22-11
3226
#175
Originally posted by coop-dog
how do you keep texas out they beat alabama? shouldnt bama and georgia be out?
sec is the glamor conference won over half the titles what, the last 4 need 1