BILLS vs BENGALS in game thread!

[ThaWoj]

All that sharp money came in last night at betonline at +255 game would be cancelled (I suppose they could still make it up) but according to diggity it was down to +125

I wonder how low it got before they yanked it

[ThaWoj]

Interesting

anyone else think that both bengals and bills forfeit the wk 18 gms

would get pats in which is what nfl wants

Pats might be fukkd. Bills gonna "win one for Hammy"

[stake1]

Cowherd said today on his show that he believes the game will be a tie for both

[19th Hole]

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[pologq]

i think it all depends on what happens with Hamlin. if he passes away do they play this weekend?

i do not think the bengals forfeit. i wonder how higgings is doing.

[Kermit]

Ya i was expecting refunds from pa books didn’t check yet

Betrivers just refunded back all of my wagers.

[ThaWoj]

i think it all depends on what happens with Hamlin. if he passes away do they play this weekend?

i do not think the bengals forfeit. i wonder how higgings is doing.

Wonder what woulda happened if sean taylor had gotten shot during the season..would they have played that week? I think they would.

[19th Hole]

Cowherd said today on his show that he believes the game will be a tie for both

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Thanks Stake-
Makes perfect sense for the league. The options lead to a scheduling
nightmare. The NFL is anything but innovative.

[allabout the $$$]

switch the bengals and bills game to saturday this week.

have them play the make up game the following wed

make them both have their playoff games on monday

[thetrinity]

Betrivers just refunded back all of my wagers.

Unibet Parx DK for me

[thetrinity]

switch the bengals and bills game to saturday this week.

have them play the make up game the following wed

make them both have their playoff games on monday

They already said they arent doing anything to week 18

[Kermit]

Cowherd said today on his show that he believes the game will be a tie for both

Then if the Chiefs win on Saturday they have the #1 seed and Buffalo doesn't have anything to play for on Sunday.

[allabout the $$$]

They already said they arent doing anything to week 18

ok but the scenario i laid out would be the best possible solution.

[thetrinity]

I think the networks are the ones they would have to work with here to get the schedule changed. Its not like the playoffs are a set schedule for anyone besides TV. By keeping week 18 intact, you get to decide who's in the playoffs so the teams out can go on with their lives. This can get played for seeding the week after. Thats why this hasnt been cancelled yet, they are going to try and do this on what would have been wild card weekend. Maybe the NFC plays the wild card that weekend as well. Not saying this is easy but they have options.

[thetrinity]

ok but the scenario i laid out would be the best possible solution.

Yeah i said something similar to you last night. I did forget they have the useless pro bowl week.

[milwaukee mike]

Yes, and I suppose theoretically he could have been boosted that day. But there is no actual news or knowledge of that whatsoever. There was a fake tweet and all vaxxidiots and their fake news sites jumped on it because they wanted to believe it and they are certifiably stupid. You just gotta decide whether you want to be stupid also.

or the pro-vaxxers used that as a strawman argument to make the anti-vaxxers look stupid

you know, like fake hate crimes? but nobody would ever do that right

[Seattle Slew]

Then if the Chiefs win on Saturday they have the #1 seed and Buffalo doesn't have anything to play for on Sunday.

True, but McDermott will play his starters to knock out NE, they hate the Pats. McDermott did this two years ago to Miami. Buffalo was locked in but he played everyone and they blew Miami and Tua out.

[d2bets]

Then if the Chiefs win on Saturday they have the #1 seed and Buffalo doesn't have anything to play for on Sunday.

That's pretty damn interesting if that's true. Would make a Chiefs ML/NE ML very intriguing. Maybe that's why they juiced the Chiefs ML to hell despite the 7.5 spread.

[d2bets]

True, but McDermott will play his starters to knock out NE, they hate the Pats. McDermott did this two years ago to Miami. Buffalo was locked in but he played everyone and they blew Miami and Tua out.

Maybe. But especially given what happened, this could be a very different scenario. It's all so fluid.

[Slurry Pumper]

True, but McDermott will play his starters to knock out NE, they hate the Pats. McDermott did this two years ago to Miami. Buffalo was locked in but he played everyone and they blew Miami and Tua out.

I would think Buffalo would tank that game and come back a week later and playing the Patriots again. There is no bye week, so this week becomes that for them, and playing the patriots for the Bills is the easier choice.

[Kermit]

True, but McDermott will play his starters to knock out NE, they hate the Pats. McDermott did this two years ago to Miami. Buffalo was locked in but he played everyone and they blew Miami and Tua out.

I am just curious if the starters will be mentally ready.

I also seeing rumors that Hamlin is brain dead and on life support. I hope they are not true.

[milwaukee mike]

I am just curious if the starters will be mentally ready.

I also seeing rumors that Hamlin is brain dead and on life support. I hope they are not true.

unfortunately if someone has to perform cpr for 9 minutes, that's probably not a good sign

"Permanent brain damage begins after only 4 minutes without oxygen"

[hehfest]

I never stop hearing about how many of the "J"-innated want to lock up and put the non-"J"-innated into concentration camps (also known as the pure-bloods). However, the pure-bloods never suggest putting the "J"-innated into camps. Seems like one side has more humanity than the other.

[hehfest]

different books have different rules but almost all of them say the same thing whether it's "suspended" or "postponed"

heritage Any postponed, suspended, or rescheduled events will be considered no action.
betonline says if it doesn't go 55 minutes THAT DAY then it is no action
jazz same as betonline/heritage
bookmaker - must be finished within 5 days

Times have changed then. The last time I had a suspended ticket was a baseball game. It was a Yankees game back when I lived in Vegas. They did, however, finish the game the very next day. They would NOT refund my wager. I was losing by a few runs or 1 run in the game. It was considered a suspended game. So, if they continue the Bills game at the same score and time of the game, then it was a suspended game. New rules since back then that was in 2006-2007 (I seriously can't remember the exact time-frame I was living there as I was moving around like a nomad at the time).

[KVB]

Uncle Fester it can depend on the House and also the sport.

Baseball is not treated the same way as football, for example, at BM. The rules are different for when the game must be completed.

And it is true, there have been changes since 2006-07.

[pologq]

Wonder what woulda happened if sean taylor had gotten shot during the season..would they have played that week? I think they would.

i don't know. if he got shot in 2023 during the season? social media would blow up if they did.

[thetrinity]

He did get shot during the season. Died around thanksgiving

[PharaohUB]

switch the bengals and bills game to saturday this week.

have them play the make up game the following wed

make them both have their playoff games on monday

I’d imagine it’s quite difficult to staff enough people to run a football stadium in a few days. Not to mention some venues probably has other stuff going on. It might be doable but it likely be extremely difficulties to pull off.

[homie1975]

it all comes down to one main thing: how long did his brain go without oxygen. the only way the brain gets oxygen is through blood flow and that comes from the heart beating.

every second of the brain getting deprived oxygen, is a golden second.

it can take away his most basic human functions.

it is so sad.

[Mike Huntertz]

Some people are so far down the rabbit hole that a fluke football injury is due to covid vaccinations?
All these rabbit-holers have had tons of vaccinations but have single out this one as "the cause of death".
Unfortunately no vaccination for stupid.

[KVB]

it all comes down to one main thing: how long did his brain go without oxygen. the only way the brain gets oxygen is through blood flow and that comes from the heart beating.

every second of the brain getting deprived oxygen, is a golden second.

it can take away his most basic human functions.

it is so sad.

Happy New Year Homie!!!!

Hope all is well.

You're right, situation can be dire.

I just posted this earlier, don't forget CPR can mimick the heart pumping and that can make all the difference...

...CPR compressions will cause blood to flow through the body, hopefully getting oxygenated blood to the brain and other organs. This is an important aspect of CPR that shouldn't be overlooked. It replaces the beating heart, temporarily.

You can keep the blood pumping with CPR until you can get equipment, etc. for further treatment.

Hopefully it was enough for Hamlin.

[homie1975]

Happy New Year Homie!!!!

Hope all is well.

You're right, situation can be dire.

I just posted this earlier, don't forget CPR can mimick the heart pumping and that can make all the difference...



Hopefully it was enough for Hamlin.

your post was right on.

i recently became certified in CPR and AED since i coach my kids in baseball, softball and soccer and also i am the only one on my work certified on the same.

certification is every 2 years.

30/2 rule for compressions / breaths


Learn the steps to perform this lifesaving technique on adults and children.
By Mayo Clinic Staff

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) is a lifesaving technique that's useful in many emergencies, such as a heart attack or near drowning, in which someone's breathing or heartbeat has stopped. The American Heart Association recommends starting CPR with hard and fast chest compressions. This hands-only CPR recommendation applies to both untrained bystanders and first responders.

If you're afraid to do CPR or unsure how to perform CPR correctly, know that it's always better to try than to do nothing at all. The difference between doing something and doing nothing could be someone's life.
Here's advice from the American Heart Association:

• Untrained. If you're not trained in CPR or worried about giving rescue breaths, then provide hands-only CPR. That means uninterrupted chest compressions of 100 to 120 a minute until paramedics arrive (described in more detail below). You don't need to try rescue breathing.
• Trained and ready to go. If you're well-trained and confident in your ability, check to see if there is a pulse and breathing. If there is no pulse or breathing within 10 seconds, begin chest compressions. Start CPR with 30 chest compressions before giving two rescue breaths.
• Trained but rusty. If you've previously received CPR training but you're not confident in your abilities, then just do chest compressions at a rate of 100 to 120 a minute (details described below).

The above advice applies to situations in which adults, children and infants need CPR, but not newborns (infants up to 4 weeks old).
CPR can keep oxygen-rich blood flowing to the brain and other organs until emergency medical treatment can restore a typical heart rhythm. When the heart stops, the body no longer gets oxygen-rich blood. The lack of oxygen-rich blood can cause brain damage in only a few minutes.
If you are untrained and have immediate access to a phone, call 911 or your local emergency number before beginning CPR. The dispatcher can instruct you in the proper procedures until help arrives. To learn CPR properly, take an accredited first-aid training course, including CPR and how to use an automated external defibrillator (AED).
Before you begin


Before starting CPR, check:

• Is the environment safe for the person?
• Is the person conscious or unconscious?
• If the person appears unconscious, tap or shake his or her shoulder and ask loudly, "Are you OK?"
• If the person doesn't respond and you're with another person who can help, have one person call 911 or the local emergency number and get the AED, if one is available. Have the other person begin CPR.
• If you are alone and have immediate access to a telephone, call 911 or your local emergency number before beginning CPR. Get the AED if one is available.
• As soon as an AED is available, deliver one shock if instructed by the device, then begin CPR.

Remember to spell C-A-B

Open pop-up dialog boxChest compressions


Open pop-up dialog boxOpen the airway

Open pop-up dialog boxRescue breathing

The American Heart Association uses the letters C-A-B to help people remember the order to perform the steps of CPR.

• C: compressions
• A: airway
• B: breathing

Compressions: Restore blood flow

Compressions means you'll use your hands to push down hard and fast in a specific way on the person's chest. Compressions are the most important step in CPR. Follow these steps for performing CPR compressions:

1. Put the person on his or her back on a firm surface.
2. Kneel next to the person's neck and shoulders.
3. Place the lower palm (heel) of your hand over the center of the person's chest, between the nipples.
4. Place your other hand on top of the first hand. Keep your elbows straight and position your shoulders directly above your hands.
5. Push straight down on (compress) the chest at least 2 inches (5 centimeters) but no more than 2.4 inches (6 centimeters). Use your entire body weight (not just your arms) when doing compressions.
6. Push hard at a rate of 100 to 120 compressions a minute. The American Heart Association suggests performing compressions to the beat of the song "Stayin' Alive." Allow the chest to spring back (recoil) after each push.
7. If you haven't been trained in CPR, continue chest compressions until there are signs of movement or until emergency medical personnel take over. If you have been trained in CPR, go on to opening the airway and rescue breathing.

Airway: Open the airway

If you're trained in CPR and you've performed 30 chest compressions, open the person's airway using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver. Put your palm on the person's forehead and gently tilt the head back. Then with the other hand, gently lift the chin forward to open the airway.
Breathing: Breathe for the person

Rescue breathing can be mouth-to-mouth breathing or mouth-to-nose breathing if the mouth is seriously injured or can't be opened. Current recommendations suggest performing rescue breathing using a bag-mask device with a high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filter.

1. After opening the airway (using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver), pinch the nostrils shut for mouth-to-mouth breathing and cover the person's mouth with yours, making a seal.
2. Prepare to give two rescue breaths. Give the first rescue breath — lasting one second — and watch to see if the chest rises.
3. If the chest rises, give a second breath.
4. If the chest doesn't rise, repeat the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver and then give a second breath. Thirty chest compressions followed by two rescue breaths is considered one cycle. Be careful not to provide too many breaths or to breathe with too much force.
5. Resume chest compressions to restore blood flow.
6. As soon as an automated external defibrillator (AED) is available, apply it and follow the prompts. Give one shock, then resume chest compressions for two more minutes before giving a second shock. If you're not trained to use an AED, a 911 operator or another emergency medical operator may be able to give you instructions. If an AED isn't available, go to step 5 below.
7. Continue CPR until there are signs of movement or emergency medical personnel take over.

To perform CPR on a child


The procedure for giving CPR to a child age 1 through puberty is essentially the same as that for an adult — follow the C-A-B steps. The American Heart Association says you should not delay CPR and offers this advice on how to perform CPR on a child:

Compressions: Restore blood flow

If you are alone and didn't see the child collapse, start chest compressions for about two minutes. Then quickly call 911 or your local emergency number and get the AED if one is available.
If you're alone and you did see the child collapse, call 911 or your local emergency number first. Then get the AED, if available, and start CPR. If another person is with you, have that person call for help and get the AED while you start CPR.

1. Place the child on his or her back on a firm surface.
2. Kneel next to the child's neck and shoulders.
3. Place two hands (or only one hand if the child is very small) on the lower half of the child's breastbone (sternum).
4. Using the heel of one or both hands, press straight down on (compress) the chest about 2 inches (approximately 5 centimeters) but not greater than 2.4 inches (approximately 6 centimeters). Push hard and fast — 100 to 120 compressions a minute.
5. If you haven't been trained in CPR, continue chest compressions until the child moves or until emergency medical personnel take over. If you have been trained in CPR, open the airway and start rescue breathing.

Airway: Open the airway

If you're trained in CPR and you've performed 30 chest compressions, open the child's airway using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver.

• Place your palm on the child's forehead and gently tilt his or her head back.
• With the other hand, gently lift the chin forward to open the airway.

Breathing: Breathe for the child

Follow these steps for mouth-to-mouth breathing for a child.

1. After using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver to open the airway, pinch the child's nostrils shut. Cover the child's mouth with yours, making a seal.
2. Breathe into the child's mouth for one second and watch to see if the chest rises. If it rises, give a second breath. If the chest doesn't rise, repeat the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver first, and then give the second breath. Be careful not to provide too many breaths or to breathe with too much force.
3. After the two breaths, immediately begin the next cycle of compressions and breaths. Note: If there are two people available to do CPR on the child, change rescuers every two minutes — or sooner if the rescuer is fatigued — and give one to two breaths every 15 compressions.
4. As soon as an AED is available, apply it and follow the prompts. As soon as an AED is available, apply it and follow the prompts. Use pediatric pads for children older than 4 weeks old and up to age 8. If pediatric pads aren't available, use adult pads. Give one shock, then restart CPR — starting with chest compressions — for two more minutes before giving a second shock. If you're not trained to use an AED, a 911 operator or another emergency medical operator may be able to give you directions.

Continue until the child moves or help arrives.
To perform CPR on a baby 4 weeks old or older


Cardiac arrest in babies is usually due to a lack of oxygen, such as from choking. If you know that the baby has an airway blockage, perform first aid for choking. If you don't know why the baby isn't breathing, perform CPR.

First, evaluate the situation. Touch the baby and watch for a response, such as movement. Don't shake the baby.
If there's no response, call 911 or your local emergency number, then immediately start CPR.
Follow the compressions, airway and breathing (C-A-B) procedure (below) for a baby under age 1 (except newborns, which include babies up to 4 weeks old):
If you saw the baby collapse, get the AED, if one is available, before beginning CPR. If another person is available, have that person call for help immediately and get the AED while you stay with the baby and perform CPR.
Compressions: Restore blood flow

1. Place the baby on his or her back on a firm, flat surface, such as a table or floor.
2. Imagine a horizontal line drawn between the baby's nipples. Place two fingers of one hand just below this line, in the center of the chest.
3. Gently compress the chest about 1.5 inches (about 4 centimeters).
4. Count aloud as you push in a fairly rapid rhythm. You should push at a rate of 100 to 120 compressions a minute, just as you would when giving an adult CPR.

Airway: Open the airway

After 30 compressions, gently tip the head back by lifting the chin with one hand and pushing down on the forehead with the other hand.
Breathing: Breathe for the baby

1. Cover the baby's mouth and nose with your mouth.
2. Prepare to give two rescue breaths. Use the strength of your cheeks to deliver gentle puffs of air (instead of deep breaths from your lungs) to slowly breathe into the baby's mouth one time, taking one second for the breath. Watch to see if the baby's chest rises. If it does, give a second rescue breath. If the chest does not rise, repeat the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver and then give the second breath.
3. If the baby's chest still doesn't rise, continue chest compressions.
4. Give two breaths after every 30 chest compressions. If two people are performing CPR, give one to two breaths after every 15 chest compressions.
5. Continue CPR until you see signs of life or until medical personnel arrive.

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Feb. 12, 2022

[thellama]

Thank you. Let me print that out.

[homie1975]

Thank you. Let me print that out.

everyone should try and get certified.

it's like $30 or something like that but i did it through the local youth sports leagues and my work, so it was free.


approximately 15-20 children annually between the ages of 12-18 years old, go into cardiac arrest on the field or the court of play due to a blow to the left side of the chest by a baseball, lacrosse ball, or by a player etc etc etc.

you could save a life.

as a coach and a coworker, i felt i needed to become certified just in case i can save one life.

[masr]

Saw multiple reports? Does that bother you if he was? I honestly don’t give a shit either way. Woj said he saw he got the shot the 26th or he got boosted and I said I heard he got boosted, that’s all. You have the agenda, i do have an open mind but ultimately it won’t matter to me in the end.

Of course that bothers him...Liberals hate the truth !