BILLS vs BENGALS in game thread!

[d2bets]

^^ been growing for awhile and that that rate, we'd expect to see 80 to 100 per year, That's 2 times a week. Now I imagine every time it's highlighted with an article...there's one...another one this week! Oh my! 3 this week! How is that possible!? Well yeah, it's nothing new. You just never paid attention before.

Unless you show me hard actual data with a statistically significant change without another explanation...then your anecdotes mean nothing to me.

[d2bets]

i would agree with you there, but i would also say that they're happening with way more regularity

if you are a parent at that flag football game, are you...

1) happy that they made all the players take jabs, and getting everyone boosted tomorrow
2) concerned that your child took jabs, and never getting any family member another one
3) indifferent

Any good hard data showing that?

And if I'm a parent at a game, I'm not worried about jabs. I'm worried about whether they have an onsite AED with people who know how to use it.

[milwaukee mike]

[milwaukee mike]

Any good hard data showing that?

And if I'm a parent at a game, I'm not worried about jabs. I'm worried about whether they have an onsite AED with people who know how to use it.

i've already posted the excess deaths by year, and also the heart issues by year in athletes, i'm sure you can find that... and then you can say the numbers are made up or whatever

childhood health problems were already going through the roof before covid vaccines... when i was a kid stuff like add/adhd/autism pretty much didn't exist, hmm i wonder what changed

[d2bets]

i've already posted the excess deaths by year, and also the heart issues by year in athletes, i'm sure you can find that... and then you can say the numbers are made up or whatever

childhood health problems were already going through the roof before covid vaccines... when i was a kid stuff like add/adhd/autism pretty much didn't exist, hmm i wonder what changed

Some cockeyed nothing study from Israel?

I want to the see stats for the same thing -- the number of youth sports deaths in 2021 and 2022. Did it go up?

So what we'll see is we'll get 1-3 articles per week of someone dying. And dumb people will think that's never happened before.

[milwaukee mike]

Some cockeyed nothing study from Israel?

I want to the see stats for the same thing -- the number of youth sports deaths in 2021 and 2022. Did it go up?

So what we'll see is we'll get 1-3 articles per week of someone dying. And dumb people will think that's never happened before.

you're right anyone questioning anything is just totally dumb

you're smart if you just believe that every vaccine that was ever invented is 100% safe and effective, even all of those vaccines that were pulled for killing people, just ignore those, all the other ones are perfectly harmless and have never caused any injuries, even if the fda/cdc later admits it

there were 45 total youth sports deaths in a 9 year stretch, that's a good starting point i guess

[ThaWoj]

Is it me or does anyone else feel kind of bummed that the nfl ruined this week and the playoffs, at least for the afc? Like my interest in getting excited for the games in not really there. Its kind of like a few years ago with the kneeling. I skipped the first 4 weeks of the season I was so sick to my stomach. Couldnt watch that trash. The nfl knew they fkd up with that...now they even want to pray when tim tebow was crucified for doing so and you couldn't wear a star on your helmet for the 6 dallas police officers murdered by a thug but you could wear pig socks and black lives matter...

[d2bets]

you're right anyone questioning anything is just totally dumb

you're smart if you just believe that every vaccine that was ever invented is 100% safe and effective, even all of those vaccines that were pulled for killing people, just ignore those, all the other ones are perfectly harmless and have never caused any injuries, even if the fda/cdc later admits it

there were 45 total youth sports deaths in a 9 year stretch, that's a good starting point i guess

Huh? Study I linked showed like 70-80 deaths per year and it increased 6% annual average 1994 to 2006. 75 each in 2005 and 2006. I'd like to see a study 2009-2019. Likely similar or higher. 80-100 per year looks right.

[homie1975]

i've already posted the excess deaths by year, and also the heart issues by year in athletes, i'm sure you can find that... and then you can say the numbers are made up or whatever

childhood health problems were already going through the roof before covid vaccines... when i was a kid stuff like add/adhd/autism pretty much didn't exist, hmm i wonder what changed

i am of the belief that vaccines, especially several in high doses all given at once, likely have a negative effect of some kind especially on babies and toddlers and really on kids under age 7 or 8.

when my children were born, my wife and i decided to stage out the vaxxes every 3 to 6 mos so they were not receiving them all at once.

that said, when you and i were kids, ADD and ADHD were simple diagnoses - "hyperactive" boys.

and Autism was called "slow" or somewhat retarded.

they existed when we were kids, but the diagnosis was simply not there.

that is the main difference.

[milwaukee mike]

Huh? Study I linked showed like 70-80 deaths per year and it increased 6% annual average 1994 to 2006. 75 each in 2005 and 2006. I'd like to see a study 2009-2019. Likely similar or higher. 80-100 per year looks right.

i think the study you linked was from 13 year olds to 25 year olds?

then you asked for YOUTHS, here's a study that shows that 45 in 9 years i was talking about

5 youths/year (age 17 and under)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6522087/

[TheMoneyShot]

Is it me or does anyone else feel kind of bummed that the nfl ruined this week and the playoffs, at least for the afc? Like my interest in getting excited for the games in not really there. Its kind of like a few years ago with the kneeling. I skipped the first 4 weeks of the season I was so sick to my stomach. Couldnt watch that trash. The nfl knew they fkd up with that...now they even want to pray when tim tebow was crucified for doing so and you couldn't wear a star on your helmet for the 6 dallas police officers murdered by a thug but you could wear pig socks and black lives matter...

I knew they wouldn't resume the Bills Bengals game... they simply can't. Too much recent emotions from that tragedy. What's even more surprising... they can't figure out a balanced way out of this... leading into the playoffs. If the Bengals and Bills met in the playoffs... WELL HELLO!!! All we'll hear about is the Hamlin incident all over again. Unreal.

[milwaukee mike]

I knew they wouldn't resume the Bills Bengals game... they simply can't. Too much recent emotions from that tragedy. What's even more surprising... they can't figure out a balanced way out of this... leading into the playoffs. If the Bengals and Bills met in the playoffs... WELL HELLO!!! All we'll hear about is the Hamlin incident all over again. Unreal.

i think we can all agree on that! any time something happens, it's just over the top nonsense about how brave and heroic everyone involved is

how is he brave and heroic for collapsing? and how are the people doing their job brave and heroic? the guy drove an ambulance... yes that's great, he did his job, he's not some kind of all-time hero for driving an ambulance without flipping it over or being drunk

[Kermit]

Some cockeyed nothing study from Israel?

I want to the see stats for the same thing -- the number of youth sports deaths in 2021 and 2022. Did it go up?

So what we'll see is we'll get 1-3 articles per week of someone dying. And dumb people will think that's never happened before.

I don't recall hearing stories involving young people and cardiac arrest happening so frequently just a few years ago.

This just happened yesterday. Her doctor cleared her to play sports despite having an issue. I am not saying this is vax related, but it seems that something unusual is happening.

Las Vegas Teen Flag Football Star Collapses and Dies 'Playing the Game She Loves'

[JIBBBY]

This had me cracking up!

[milwaukee mike]

#3 for old dominion collapsed with a heart issue during yesterday's game

i guess his heart stopped on a severe hit as well ... how many more weeks are we gonna watch healthy young athletes collapse, one after another, after another, and continue to say "we've never seen anything like this"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPccZeYjyM

[Seattle Slew]

i think we can all agree on that! any time something happens, it's just over the top nonsense about how brave and heroic everyone involved is

how is he brave and heroic for collapsing? and how are the people doing their job brave and heroic? the guy drove an ambulance... yes that's great, he did his job, he's not some kind of all-time hero for driving an ambulance without flipping it over or being drunk

Walk into any ER in the country and medical people are doing this work every day, with no fanfare. Of course it's over the top.

You just knew every single media person wanted to be the first person to report "when Hamlin woke up, the first thing he asked is did we win?"

Back to you guys, amazing.

[Kermit]

WTF is going on here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was just at the GSU, Old Dominion basketball game today and this happened. <a href="https://t.co/S8L9viKGwa">pic.twitter.com/S8L9viKGwa</a></p>&mdash; Motherpuncher (@Motherpuncher22) <a href="https://twitter.com/Motherpuncher22/status/1611872150788444160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >January 7, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[homie1975]

29 up to 1500 is actually a 5172% increase.

[mama whoiscrying]

Too many people in the world anyway. Who cares???
Thanos had it right! Click that thumb!

[Kermit]

Hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steelers defense celebrated a sack by performing CPR. Of all weeks… not a great look. Yikes. <a href="https://t.co/ZvVPCwS6ya">pic.twitter.com/ZvVPCwS6ya</a></p>&mdash; Gunz (@TheGunzShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGunzShow/status/1612205826663497730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >January 8, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[JIBBBY]

WTF is going on here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was just at the GSU, Old Dominion basketball game today and this happened. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/S8L9viKGwa">pic.twitter.com/S8L9viKGwa</a></p>&mdash; Motherpuncher (@Motherpuncher22) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Motherpuncher22/status/1611872150788444160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >January 7, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Today's young players don't have heart! Soft generation!

[homie1975]

Hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steelers defense celebrated a sack by performing CPR. Of all weeks… not a great look. Yikes. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZvVPCwS6ya">pic.twitter.com/ZvVPCwS6ya</a></p>&mdash; Gunz (@TheGunzShow) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/TheGunzShow/status/1612205826663497730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >January 8, 2023</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

what a complete dipshitt move.

[Fred The Hammer]

I guess Hank Gathers got the vax. Pistol Pete Maravich too

The whole country sees the kid on the Bills takes a direct shot to the chest and its the vax.

I swear

Which isn't to say I'm for the vax or dumbshits that still wear a mask

[StackinGreen]

I guess Hank Gathers got the vax. Pistol Pete Maravich too

The whole country sees the kid on the Bills takes a direct shot to the chest and its the vax.

I swear

Which isn't to say I'm for the vax or dumbshits that still wear a mask

Come on Hammer, bad logic. The number of sudden cardiac events, beyond all cause mortality, for every age group is up huge in the 2020-2021 period when the mRNA injection and boosters came out.

Coincidence, right? When we told you the whole time. Yeah, we just guessed and it happened. We must be gods or something.

[JIBBBY]

Can you imagine how much more media hype this would have gotten if he died?

A Cop gets shot and dies it doesn't even make the news. Society and the fake news is a joke these days.

#3 is fine and recovered now and it's still 24/7 news. Prays and donations please! Enough is enough!

Get him in a uniform and get him back out on the field. His heart is fine. Bitchitis now!

[homie1975]

Come on Hammer, bad logic. The number of sudden cardiac events, beyond all cause mortality, for every age group is up huge in the 2020-2021 period when the mRNA injection and boosters came out.

Coincidence, right? When we told you the whole time. Yeah, we just guessed and it happened. We must be gods or something.

Stacker
i took the JnJ conventional vaxx a few mos after several million ppl had already taken it. i only did it because i had to in order to be allowed to return to the office which was mandatory for us. i like my job.

i did Not take the mRNA jab.

do you believe i am safe ?

[milwaukee mike]

Stacker
i took the JnJ conventional vaxx a few mos after several million ppl had already taken it. i only did it because i had to in order to be allowed to return to the office which was mandatory for us. i like my job.

i did Not take the mRNA jab.

do you believe i am safe ?

here's what the cdc says about j&j vs mrna... the cdc makes me a bit suspicious that j&j was the only "real" vaccine, you only needed 1 dose, j&j made it in a non-profit fashion... and yet it was the first to be bashed

i'm guessing 1 dose of the j&j is way safer than 2+ doses of mrna

• There is a potential cause-and-effect relationship between J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and a rare and serious adverse event. It is blood clots with low platelets (thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, or TTS). TTS occurs at a rate of about 4 cases per million Janssen’s Johnson and Johnson doses and has resulted in deaths. Because of this risk, vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines other than J&J/Janssen vaccine is preferred.

There is a rare risk of myocarditis and pericarditis associated with mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, mostly among males ages 12–39 years.

[homie1975]

several women between the ages of 18 and 48 (probably on birth control) developed blood clots in their legs attributed to the JnJ vaxx so it started getting the stink eye.

since i'm not a chick i still took that Vaxx instead of the mRNA versions.

i trusted it more, and only did it because i had to.

i believed early on that only those over age 70 or 75 should get the jab.

no one else should have gotten it or should get it IMO

[milwaukee mike]

several women between the ages of 18 and 48 (probably on birth control) developed blood clots in their legs attributed to the JnJ vaxx so it started getting the stink eye.

since i'm not a chick i still took that Vaxx instead of the mRNA versions.

i trusted it more, and only did it because i had to.

i believed early on that only those over age 70 or 75 should get the jab.

no one else should have gotten it or should get it IMO

if the cdc admits that people (especially males between 12-39 years old) can get heart problems from the jabs, why can't people admit that what has been happening to soccer players, FLAG football players, basketball players, track athletes, those can't be explained by a hit to the chest

and hamlin never got violently hit in the chest, for god's sake he was just making a normal tackle, while wearing chest pads... think of how hard you would have to be hit to go through the pads, break all your ribs, and then stop your heart... that kind of thing happens to 10 year olds getting hit with hockey pucks, not people that didn't even get hit

[homie1975]

if the cdc admits that people (especially males between 12-39 years old) can get heart problems from the jabs, why can't people admit that what has been happening to soccer players, FLAG football players, basketball players, track athletes, those can't be explained by a hit to the chest

and hamlin never got violently hit in the chest, for god's sake he was just making a normal tackle, while wearing chest pads... think of how hard you would have to be hit to go through the pads, break all your ribs, and then stop your heart... that kind of thing happens to 10 year olds getting hit with hockey pucks, not people that didn't even get hit

what was strange in that play was that way the WR Tee Higgins turned upfield, lowered his helmet like a RB, and essentially speared Damar right in the left side of the chest as Damar was kind of off balance.

it is not often that we see WR's lower their head right into the pads of a defensive player like that.

and if defensive players can be flagged and even thrown out for "targetting", i think offensive players should be also.

[milwaukee mike]

what was strange in that play was that way the WR Tee Higgins turned upfield, lowered his helmet like a RB, and essentially speared Damar right in the left side of the chest as Damar was kind of off balance.

it is not often that we see WR's lower their head right into the pads of a defensive player like that.

and if defensive players can be flagged and even thrown out for "targetting", i think offensive players should be also.

the helmet hits hamlin in the right shoulder, nowhere near his heart

https://www.google.com/search?q=damar+hamlin+play&oq=damar+hamlin+play&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i3l4j69i60l3.6467j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:395cbcf6,vid:r1Z9Vd53yhI

[homie1975]

the helmet hits hamlin in the right shoulder, nowhere near his heart

https://www.google.com/search?q=dama...id:r1Z9Vd53yhI

you are right. it was Higgins' right shoulder that went BAM right into the left side of Hamlin's chest.

shoulder might be sharper than the helmet? WR seemed to explode into Damar's left side, no?

it had to have it at the exact right (wrong) time when the heart was effectively recoiling.

[d2bets]

Assuming for sake of argument that there is an increase in such cardiac incidents, why should I assume that the cause is the vaccine rather than the Covid virus itself? Most have now had Covid over the past few years, so why could that not be the explanation?

[milwaukee mike]

Assuming for sake of argument that there is an increase in such cardiac incidents, why should I assume that the cause is the vaccine rather than the Covid virus itself? Most have now had Covid over the past few years, so why could that not be the explanation?

you shouldn't assume anything

but ESPECIALLY the company that has paid more CRIMINAL fines than anyone else in history (pfizer) for repeatedly lying, faking trials, misrepresenting ingredients, giving people stuff they knew was deadly, etc... you shouldn't assume that their products are 100% safe and effective, and that they're 100% truthful
and why do we have to "assume for the sake of argument" when the CDC themselves say it's a fact that there is a risk of heart problems from mrna covid vaccines

[milwaukee mike]

people will defend these unsafe and ineffective jabs to the end of time, it's so weird

does anyone still defend vioxx? or fen-phen? or the swine flu vaccine? or the h1n1 vaccines that were giving everyone narcolepsy? once it's proven they harm people, POOF the ads disappear off of tv and nobody ever apologizes or even mentions it

god (or mother nature, or whatever you believe) made us perfect... we are naturally born to adapt to anything, and have been tricked to believe that we need all sorts of weird medical interventions ... health is not injected