Just got screwed over on BetOnline [Resolved]

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  • CS04
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-21-20
    • 30

    #1
    Just got screwed over on BetOnline [Resolved]
    So at the end of October I used my credit card to put $2500 on BetOnline. Three separate deposits, all went through fine, I ate the fees. I put that money on Biden winning the election, 3 separate wagers ($500, $1000, $1000). Odds at -190. No problem. I continued to receive emails for weeks from BOL telling me to be patient with this wager, I was. When I heard that BOL had finally graded the election for Biden I went on there to see the money in my account, but instead I saw that my 3 wagers were DELETED on Dec 11 and the funds sent back to my credit card. WTF. Almost 6 weeks after the election and just days before they finally settled the bet.

    I called BetOnline and for many days they couldn't tell me anything other than it's been escalated to management. Today I finally found out their decision, that it's not possible to pay out because the wagers were terminated. No shit! So WHY was it deleted? They can't tell me any reason why it was deleted besides that it was a decision made by their security team, and they can't give any details because of security reasons. I also can't talk to any higher ups in management or in security. They don't even have a phone number. At no point did they ask to verify any information, inform me of any problems with my bet or credit card, they just silently deleted my bet that was 99% decided. It's a credit card I use all the time, has no holds on it, etc. I checked with Capital One and they had no issues with the transactions on their end. I'm just absolutely dumbfounded.

    I've never seen anything like this.


    Please be wary when using BetOnline. I guess their security team can just delete pending wagers if they want to and not give any explanations.

    I hope this is the right place to put this, I've never felt more screwed over by a sportbook in my entire life. I doubt I have any recourse, but I'd like this story to get some exposure.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    We never know the whole story

    1st mistake credit card

    Most fraud is with cards
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    • pablo222
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-19
      • 8858

      #3
      If everything was good on your end, SBR should be able to talk to someone with BOL and help you out.

      File a Sportsbook Complaint | Sportsbook Review
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      • slayer14
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-12-13
        • 22021

        #4
        Should pay him his winnings at least then shut his account if they dont want him
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        • BigOrange
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-13-09
          • 6745

          #5
          Send a tweet to @DaveMasonBOL on Twitter and he will look into it for you.

          That seems to be the quickest way to get a result in these types of problems.
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          • CS04
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-21-20
            • 30

            #6
            I know there are better options than credit card, but I was running low on time and I wanted to get some money on Biden.

            I'm not a regular sports bettor, so I don't keep a bunch of bitcoin sitting around.

            I can understand if maybe they thought something was suspicous about my card (I can't think of what) but I don't understand why they couldn't message me or email me or anything about a potential problem/resolution. And of course the timing is fishy as hell, taking five weeks before deleting a bet that was basically decided.

            But they've given me no explanation whatsoever besides it was decision made by the security team and there's nothing they or I can do about it.
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            • CS04
              SBR Rookie
              • 12-21-20
              • 30

              #7
              Originally posted by BigOrange
              Send a tweet to @DaveMasonBOL on Twitter and he will look into it for you.
              That seems to be the quickest way to get a result in these types of problems.
              Ok thanks, I don't have twitter, but I'll try and have someone I know tweet at him.
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              • BigOrange
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-13-09
                • 6745

                #8
                Originally posted by CS04
                Ok thanks, I don't have twitter, but I'll try and have someone I know tweet at him.
                Takes the same amount of time to set up Twitter as it did to open an account here. If you're not a scammer of some kind, you should definitely go that route.
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                • CS04
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-21-20
                  • 30

                  #9
                  Ok, will do.
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                  • Al Masters
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-29-06
                    • 6940

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    We never know the whole story

                    1st mistake credit card

                    Most fraud is with cards
                    You work here.. this is your response.
                    Originally posted by pablo222
                    If everything was good on your end, SBR should be able to talk to someone with BOL and help you out.

                    File a Sportsbook Complaint | Sportsbook Review
                    <br>
                    <br>


                    He doesn’t work here and this is his response.

                    Will the real SBR employee please stand up.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Many of these complaints there are
                      Missing parts to the story

                      We
                      Know this
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                      • Al Masters
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-29-06
                        • 6940

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Many of these complaints there are
                        Missing parts to the story

                        We
                        Know this
                        True.. but every story is a new story.. you must investigate before you know for sure.

                        Now get to work and look into it.. let us know your findings.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Optional will check story out
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                          • Tanko
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-19-09
                            • 5143

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Many of these complaints there are
                            Missing parts to the story

                            We
                            Know this
                            You are correct. Many do but not ALL.
                            Seems like SBR reps, as the go-to arbitrator between books and bettor disputes, would take a neutral stance until more details are provided.

                            Just saying...


                            Anxious to hear the outcome on this one.
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                            • stevek173
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-29-08
                              • 27598

                              #15
                              This guy is very well spoken, I believe him.

                              Hope it works out man.
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                              • ace7550
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-08-15
                                • 3729

                                #16
                                I'm a big fan of BOL. Doesn't seem like something they'd do. Interested to hear what BOL's reasoning is or if there's more info.
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                                • CS04
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 12-21-20
                                  • 30

                                  #17
                                  To be fair there is nothing much really to add my end. I made the bet at the end of October. It went through fine. I didn't do anything, I didn't hear anything from anyone, I just patiently waited for the market to finally get settled. When it did I logged on and saw that my bet was deleted on December 11. Nobody emailed or called me to say it was deleted, it was done without my knowledge.

                                  Now that I've contacted BOL nobody can tell my why it happened, just that they can't pay out bets that are deleted, because they don't exist anymore obviously. I can't speak to management/security.
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                                  • ace7550
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-08-15
                                    • 3729

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CS04
                                    To be fair there is nothing much really to add my end. I made the bet at the end of October. It went through fine. I didn't do anything, I didn't hear anything from anyone, I just patiently waited for the market to finally get settled. When it did I logged on and saw that my bet was deleted on December 11. Nobody emailed or called me to say it was deleted, it was done without my knowledge.

                                    Now that I've contacted BOL nobody can tell my why it happened, just that they can't pay out bets that are deleted, because they don't exist anymore obviously. I can't speak to management/security.
                                    When did the money get refunded back to your card?
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #19
                                      This is odd.

                                      Is this just about the election bet dragging on? Why would funds be sent back to the card without some kind of charge back request or something? I suppose that would "terminate" the wagers.

                                      Wouldn't deleted bets revert to a balance? Something triggered sending the money back.

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                                      • CS04
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 12-21-20
                                        • 30

                                        #20
                                        "When did the money get refunded back to your card?"


                                        A few days after December 11th, looks like December 15th.
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                                        • CS04
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 12-21-20
                                          • 30

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          This is odd.

                                          Is this just about the election bet dragging on? Why would funds be sent back to the card without some kind of charge back request or something? I suppose that would "terminate" the wagers.

                                          Wouldn't deleted bets revert to a balance? Something triggered sending the money back.

                                          Yea, I don't really know. I just know the $2500 + fees is back on my credit card. The timing of the whole thing and the fact that nothing was communicated to me at any point just boggles my mind.

                                          When I logged in a few days ago the balance was actually at -187$. Which is the fees I paid. They did end up putting my balance back to zero.

                                          I even called capital one and specifically asked about the deposit. They said their fraud team took a look at it, said it was legit, and that was it. They didn't dispute anything. They have no idea why it was returned back to me.
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                                          • BuckyOne
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-02-15
                                            • 2728

                                            #22
                                            Bad line rule does not apply. To just void it and give the money back implies the player did something wrong.

                                            Apparently, the account was not closed / still possible to log in.

                                            But, to be so gutless as to not explain what happened is unforgiveable. Somebody, somewhere, made the call.

                                            Very possible they read about how easy it was for 5dimes to steal player bets.
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                                            • CanuckG
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-23-10
                                              • 21978

                                              #23
                                              Any screenshots of these bets?
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                                              • LongBall52
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 06-14-20
                                                • 1319

                                                #24
                                                BOL sounds like the worst kind of crook, if your story is true and I have no reason to doubt it.
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                                                • unde0087
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-27-08
                                                  • 28956

                                                  #25
                                                  We need answers JJ
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                                                  • CS04
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 12-21-20
                                                    • 30

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BuckyOne
                                                    Bad line rule does not apply. To just void it and give the money back implies the player did something wrong.

                                                    Apparently, the account was not closed / still possible to log in.

                                                    But, to be so gutless as to not explain what happened is unforgiveable. Somebody, somewhere, made the call.

                                                    Very possible they read about how easy it was for 5dimes to steal player bets.
                                                    Yea I can still log in to my account, but they've switched it to cash only, so I can't pay with credit card anymore. Obviously it was fine when I deposited.

                                                    And yes someone made this call, but I have no idea who, or why, and no way to contact such a person
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                                                    • CS04
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 12-21-20
                                                      • 30

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CanuckG
                                                      Any screenshots of these bets?



                                                      Unfortunately when I click on the actual docket number, nothing pops up
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                                                      • LongBall52
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 06-14-20
                                                        • 1319

                                                        #28
                                                        If this book was so wonderful, THEY should have already responded to this thread for everyone to see!
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                                                        • funnyb25
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 07-09-09
                                                          • 39663

                                                          #29
                                                          Anyone who plays with Betonline can see the problem here with OP.

                                                          I am not going to disclose it, but anyone can see it...Best of luck
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                                                          • LongBall52
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-14-20
                                                            • 1319

                                                            #30
                                                            So it's a BetOnline thing....LOL..Glad I don't play there.
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                                                            • CS04
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 12-21-20
                                                              • 30

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                              Anyone who plays with Betonline can see the problem here with OP.

                                                              I am not going to disclose it, but anyone can see it...Best of luck
                                                              Uh, well I would like to know. I don't see why you can't post it. PM if you have to.
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                                                              • TheMetsSuck
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-14-12
                                                                • 6146

                                                                #32
                                                                You need to send a picture of your rooster to Betonline@support.com to certify your acct
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                                                                • BigDeem5
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-26-11
                                                                  • 17191

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Have had similar issue with same book.

                                                                  Shady book.
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                                                                  • pologq
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                                    • 19899

                                                                    #34
                                                                    when you made the deposits they settled on your card and then they were refunded as separate transactions?
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                                                                    • robbypark
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-13-18
                                                                      • 794

                                                                      #35
                                                                      BOL is a joke. I've had several wagers there just deleted and disappeared for no reason. It's why I always take a photo of the wager including ticket # now so they can't try to screw me over any more.
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