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  • homie1975
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    • 12-24-13
    • 15453

    #701
    Originally posted by Itsamazing777
    Biden has no shot in michigan.
    Country as it gets outside of detroit
    Trump only won Michigan by 11k votes in 2016.
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    • vitterd
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      • 09-14-17
      • 58460

      #702
      Originally posted by homie1975
      Jonal above said "Trump ain't winning MI" which u disagree with but u nominated it ??
      Itsamazing is still coloring books.
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      • Fred The Hammer
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-13-13
        • 11576

        #703
        Originally posted by homie1975
        Nope, and not PA either. he has a decent shot in WI. I believe he will win AZ and NC.

        MI and PA going Biden. I am very confident in this pick.

        And I don't care that Trump is behind in AZ and NC, as it is within the MOE and I believe they will BOTH go Trump, and pretty easily actually.
        I don't know? Alot of seniors with Covid. THat Cindy McCain/Biden commercial is pretty good and trumpy always tried to rip McCain for some reason? For you trumpy mouthbreathers....John McCain was a longtime Senator from Arizona!

        I think if Biden wins PA then he wins. All the trumpies on here don't seem to realize that he won PA, WI, FL, and MI by 1 point apiece. They ignore reality and believe trumpy when he acted like it was a blowout
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        • ByeShea
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          • 06-30-08
          • 8073

          #704
          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
          Of the states below, which ones do you think Trump wins?

          Arizona
          North Carolina
          Wisconsin
          Michigan
          Pennsylvania
          Arizona ... 50/50, a lot of GOP voters & his campaign out registering Dems but that AZ has not been reliable GOP.

          North Carolina ... Trump easy, crushing the ground game

          Wisconsin ... 50/50, Antifa/BLM doing Dem hopes in suburban WI no favors, but I think Dems also count the votes

          Michigan ... 50/50, NBC says it's Biden +12 while internal GOP polls say it's +/- 0, the inevitable "tightening" already happening for GOP Senate challenger ...

          Pennsylvania ... Trump easy, GOP outregistered new voters 3-to-1 vs. Dems - and Dems poured a lot more $$$ into the voter registration effort, too. Throw in 1/2 the state's economy/real estate is reliant on fracking and Trump's lead makes it cheatproof.
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          • vitterd
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            • 09-14-17
            • 58460

            #705
            Originally posted by ByeShea
            Arizona ... 50/50, a lot of GOP voters & his campaign out registering Dems but that AZ has not been reliable GOP.

            North Carolina ... Trump easy, crushing the ground game

            Wisconsin ... 50/50, Antifa/BLM doing Dem hopes in suburban WI no favors, but I think Dems also count the votes

            Michigan ... 50/50, NBC says it's Biden +12 while internal GOP polls say it's +/- 0, the inevitable "tightening" already happening for GOP Senate challenger ...

            Pennsylvania ... Trump easy, GOP outregistered new voters 3-to-1 vs. Dems - and Dems poured a lot more $$$ into the voter registration effort, too. Throw in 1/2 the state's economy/real estate is reliant on fracking and Trump's lead makes it cheatproof.
            “ Republicans will win seats in the midterms because Trump is so popular” ByeShea

            Why should we listen to you? You are a clueless idiot.
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            • homie1975
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              • 12-24-13
              • 15453

              #706
              Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
              I don't know? Alot of seniors with Covid. THat Cindy McCain/Biden commercial is pretty good and trumpy always tried to rip McCain for some reason? For you trumpy mouthbreathers....John McCain was a longtime Senator from Arizona!

              I think if Biden wins PA then he wins. All the trumpies on here don't seem to realize that he won PA, WI, FL, and MI by 1 point apiece. They ignore reality and believe trumpy when he acted like it was a blowout
              I'm nonpartisan in this race, don't have a dog in the fight. The margins were razor thin in those states. We're talking less than 50K in most of them.

              Will be record voting turnout. Already is
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              • ByeShea
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                • 06-30-08
                • 8073

                #707
                Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                I think if Biden wins PA then he wins. All the trumpies on here don't seem to realize that he won PA, WI, FL, and MI by 1 point apiece. They ignore reality and believe trumpy when he acted like it was a blowout
                OCT 7:
                Trump campaign beating Democrats at voter registration in key states

                """"In Pennsylvania, the Republican Party has sliced the Democrats’ dominance with registered voters by nearly 200,000 since Election Day 2016. The Republicans also made up ground in North Carolina, reducing the Democrats’ superiority among registered voters by 243,000 compared to four years ago. In Florida, the GOP chopped the Democratic advantage by 154,000. In Iowa, the Republicans turned a nearly 15,000 voter registration deficit on March 1 into a 13,000 lead on Thursday.""""""

                The Trump campaign was and is well aware of where they won in 2016 and by how much. And they've been working the battleground states hard and effectively. I think they take Minnesota, too.

                Also, the thing about voter registration drives (and rallies) are that they are concrete - no projections necessary. And whenever you have a litmus that tests what can't be faked or manipulated, Trump is killing it. But whenever you have public polling we get things like today's Biden +17 nationally, from Opinium.

                Who or what or how far the fuk off base is Opinium? That's anyone's guess. But I see that Trump's get out the vote efforts and voter registry is curbstomping Biden's.
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                • vitterd
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                  • 09-14-17
                  • 58460

                  #708
                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                  OCT 7:
                  Trump campaign beating Democrats at voter registration in key states

                  """"In Pennsylvania, the Republican Party has sliced the Democrats’ dominance with registered voters by nearly 200,000 since Election Day 2016. The Republicans also made up ground in North Carolina, reducing the Democrats’ superiority among registered voters by 243,000 compared to four years ago. In Florida, the GOP chopped the Democratic advantage by 154,000. In Iowa, the Republicans turned a nearly 15,000 voter registration deficit on March 1 into a 13,000 lead on Thursday.""""""

                  The Trump campaign was and is well aware of where they won in 2016 and by how much. And they've been working the battleground states hard and effectively. I think they take Minnesota, too.

                  Also, the thing about voter registration drives (and rallies) are that they are concrete - no projections necessary. And whenever you have a litmus that tests what can't be faked or manipulated, Trump is killing it. But whenever you have public polling we get things like today's Biden +17 nationally, from Opinium.

                  Who or what or how far the fuk off base is Opinium? That's anyone's guess. But I see that Trump's get out the vote efforts and voter registry is curbstomping Biden's.
                  “ Republicans will win seats in the midterms because Trump is so popular” ByeShea

                  Why should we listen to you? You are a clueless idiot.
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                  • StackinGreen
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                    • 10-09-10
                    • 12140

                    #709
                    They were close in a few states, but he was a YUGE underdog. Now he's the incumbent running against a dead man and a snarling black woman, who support looters and rioters, and he has shown without generational bad luck (covid bs) he is better on the economy than anyone.

                    He wins going away.
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                    • vitterd
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                      • 09-14-17
                      • 58460

                      #710
                      Originally posted by StackinGreen
                      They were close in a few states, but he was a YUGE underdog. Now he's the incumbent running against a dead man and a snarling black woman, who support looters and rioters, and he has shown without generational bad luck (covid bs) he is better on the economy than anyone.

                      He wins going away.
                      Even he knows he’s losing. The only way he can win is to steal by the courts. He will never get enough votes. He lost women and seniors. The only people voting for him are dumb uneducated white redneck men.
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                      • JohnGalt2341
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                        • 12-31-09
                        • 9138

                        #711
                        Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                        Biden has no shot in michigan.
                        Country as it gets outside of detroit
                        You can get Trump wins Michigan at +230. Is it a Bad Line? If not... how much do you have riding on it?

                        If I could get Biden for +230 to win Michigan I would have bets at as many Books as possible, and I think Biden has only about a 60% chance of winning Michigan, not 100%. But for a guy like you... that is 100% certain Trump will win Michigan you must several thousand on this bet!

                        Maybe I misread what you wrote. Please define "No shot" for me if you will. To me, "no shot" is far less than 10%. What does "no shot" mean to you?

                        Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 10-13-20, 04:19 PM.
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                        • RoyBacon
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                          • 09-21-05
                          • 37074

                          #712
                          The best value on the board for Trump is OH.

                          Best dog for Trump is WI.

                          Best value for Biden is Nevada

                          Best dog is AZ
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                          • DwightShrute
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                            • 01-17-09
                            • 102779

                            #713
                            Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                            You can get Trump wins Michigan at +230. Is it a Bad Line? If not... how much do you have riding on it?

                            If I could get Biden for +230 to win Michigan I would have bets at as many Books as possible, and I think Biden has only about a 60% chance of winning Michigan, not 100%. But for a guy like you... that is 100% certain Trump will win Michigan you must several thousand on this bet!

                            Maybe I misread what you wrote. Please define "No shot" for me if you will. To me, "no shot" is far less than 10%. What does "no shot" mean to you?

                            Most bettors are limited to $25 or $50 on these political bets. Unless you know someone willing to offer you more, then its pointless. Its like talking smack over an anonymous forum.

                            Books do not give a shit whether players win or lose these $25 or $50 political bets. If the player loses, he will just deposit again. If he wins, he will lose it eventually anyway and then redeposit. In fact, we used to root for players to win these bets.
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                            • ABEHONEST
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                              • 06-27-09
                              • 9470

                              #714
                              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                              You can get Trump wins Michigan at +230. Is it a Bad Line? If not... how much do you have riding on it?

                              If I could get Biden for +230 to win Michigan I would have bets at as many Books as possible, and I think Biden has only about a 60% chance of winning Michigan, not 100%. But for a guy like you... that is 100% certain Trump will win Michigan you must several thousand on this bet!

                              Maybe I misread what you wrote. Please define "No shot" for me if you will. To me, "no shot" is far less than 10%. What does "no shot" mean to you?

                              Very wise old man and he scares the *hit out of me, and also, the cash that came out of me.
                              Too late for the latter, as for the former, also a bit late.

                              Meanwhile though, a positive; BOL just dropped Trump to + 180.
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
                                • 102779

                                #715
                                ...
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                                • vitterd
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                                  • 09-14-17
                                  • 58460

                                  #716
                                  Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                  Most bettors are limited to $25 or $50 on these political bets. Unless you know someone willing to offer you more, then its pointless. Its like talking smack over an anonymous forum.

                                  Books do not give a shit whether players win or lose these $25 or $50 political bets. If the player loses, he will just deposit again. If he wins, he will lose it eventually anyway and then redeposit. In fact, we used to root for players to win these bets.
                                  Lmao. This guy will spin any shit.

                                  Dwight, Trump is finished. He won’t win. Brace now.
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                                  • homie1975
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-24-13
                                    • 15453

                                    #717
                                    Originally posted by ByeShea
                                    OCT 7:
                                    Trump campaign beating Democrats at voter registration in key states

                                    """"In Pennsylvania, the Republican Party has sliced the Democrats’ dominance with registered voters by nearly 200,000 since Election Day 2016. The Republicans also made up ground in North Carolina, reducing the Democrats’ superiority among registered voters by 243,000 compared to four years ago. In Florida, the GOP chopped the Democratic advantage by 154,000. In Iowa, the Republicans turned a nearly 15,000 voter registration deficit on March 1 into a 13,000 lead on Thursday.""""""

                                    The Trump campaign was and is well aware of where they won in 2016 and by how much. And they've been working the battleground states hard and effectively. I think they take Minnesota, too.

                                    Also, the thing about voter registration drives (and rallies) are that they are concrete - no projections necessary. And whenever you have a litmus that tests what can't be faked or manipulated, Trump is killing it. But whenever you have public polling we get things like today's Biden +17 nationally, from Opinium.

                                    Who or what or how far the fuk off base is Opinium? That's anyone's guess. But I see that Trump's get out the vote efforts and voter registry is curbstomping Biden's.
                                    CUTTING DEM leads in voter reg in those states but still behind.

                                    Be careful when reading, Sir.
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                                    • manny24
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-22-07
                                      • 20046

                                      #718
                                      green new deal about the most childish thing any of us have ever heard

                                      just let the old guy go home and take a nap already !
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                                      • ByeShea
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 8073

                                        #719
                                        Originally posted by homie1975
                                        CUTTING DEM leads in voter reg in those states but still behind.
                                        Behind how, exactly, in polling?
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                                        • Itsamazing777
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                                          • 11-14-12
                                          • 12602

                                          #720
                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                          Trump only won Michigan by 11k votes in 2016.
                                          Whitmer. Destroyed everyone's business
                                          Its over
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                                          • homie1975
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15453

                                            #721
                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                            Behind how, exactly, in polling?
                                            Behind in total registered voters in said states
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                                            • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                              • 11-29-07
                                              • 26068

                                              #722
                                              Originally posted by vitterd
                                              Even he knows he’s losing. The only way he can win is to steal by the courts. He will never get enough votes. He lost women and seniors. The only people voting for him are dumb uneducated white redneck men.
                                              Where are you getting your info your running scared Vittard
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                                              • jt315
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                                                • 11-12-11
                                                • 21780

                                                #723
                                                Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                Where are you getting your info your running scared Vittard
                                                Must be the same places as in 2016 for Eddie Mush .
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                                                • vitterd
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                                                  • 09-14-17
                                                  • 58460

                                                  #724
                                                  Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                  Where are you getting your info your running scared Vittard
                                                  Do you have the internet at home? Maybe you should check the early voting numbers. Dems are killing it. I mean by numbers never seen before. You should start watching things other than trump rallies
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                                                  • vitterd
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                                                    #725
                                                    Originally posted by jt315
                                                    Must be the same places as in 2016 for Eddie Mush .
                                                    You are known as king mush for a reason

                                                    “ Tulsa will be dems oh shit moment” jt315

                                                    It led to Herman Cain death and Parscale in the nut House!!! Bwaaaaahhhh. Oh shit is right
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                                                    • jt315
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                                                      • 11-12-11
                                                      • 21780

                                                      #726
                                                      Originally posted by vitterd
                                                      You are known as king mush for a reason

                                                      “ Tulsa will be dems oh shit moment” jt315

                                                      It led to Herman Cain death and Parscale in the nut House!!! Bwaaaaahhhh. Oh shit is right

                                                      It’s gonna be real quiet around here when Hillary wins

                                                      Eddie Mush 2016.
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                                                      • vitterd
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                                                        • 09-14-17
                                                        • 58460

                                                        #727
                                                        Originally posted by jt315
                                                        It’s gonna be real quiet around here when Hillary wins

                                                        Eddie Mush 2016.
                                                        You predicted Hillary under all your names.

                                                        “ it will only get worse for the dems in the midterms” jt315

                                                        King mush strikes again!!!

                                                        “ wanna bet Durham will have his report before the election”— jt315

                                                        Lmao
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                                                        • TheMoneyShot
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                                                          • 02-14-07
                                                          • 28672

                                                          #728
                                                          Originally posted by homie1975

                                                          Trump only won Michigan by 11k votes in 2016.
                                                          Originally posted by ByeShea

                                                          Arizona ... 50/50, a lot of GOP voters & his campaign out registering Dems but that AZ has not been reliable GOP.

                                                          North Carolina ... Trump easy, crushing the ground game

                                                          Wisconsin ... 50/50, Antifa/BLM doing Dem hopes in suburban WI no favors, but I think Dems also count the votes

                                                          Michigan ... 50/50, NBC says it's Biden +12 while internal GOP polls say it's +/- 0, the inevitable "tightening" already happening for GOP Senate challenger ...

                                                          Pennsylvania ... Trump easy, GOP outregistered new voters 3-to-1 vs. Dems - and Dems poured a lot more $$$ into the voter registration effort, too. Throw in 1/2 the state's economy/real estate is reliant on fracking and Trump's lead makes it cheatproof.
                                                          The best logical value for any state is Michigan as the underdog. BetOnline had it at Dem -400 and Rep +300 2 days ago. It was hammered down. The line IMO is way off.

                                                          Once you get outside of Lansing North... all the way to the UP... it's like all Donald Trump (Like 90%). I didn't see one Biden sign anywhere. It's probably 46% Trump and Biden 54% South of Lansing.

                                                          Furthermore, Gov. Whitmer (Dem) has made absolute SH#$ decisions during the Covid epidemic. Most people are realizing Michigan has gone to sh#$ with a DEM as the governor.

                                                          Like I said... it's hard to forecast the future... but the odds should be more like Biden -180 and Trump +160 for Michigan.

                                                          We all talk about "VALUE" and.... let's face it... VALUE only occurs when you win. But I really can't see Michigan going DEM in the election on Nov 3.
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            • 09-27-10
                                                            • 32555

                                                            #729
                                                            Trump just landed at the airport in my city.

                                                            Holy shit. You can't get within 2 miles of that place. 100's if not 1,000's cars parked everywhere. And I live in a small town in Pa.
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                                                            • Itsamazing777
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                                                              • 11-14-12
                                                              • 12602

                                                              #730
                                                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                              The best logical value for any state is Michigan as the underdog. BetOnline had it at Dem -400 and Rep +300 2 days ago. It was hammered down. The line IMO is way off.

                                                              Once you get outside of Lansing North... all the way to the UP... it's like all Donald Trump (Like 90%). I didn't see one Biden sign anywhere. It's probably 46% Trump and Biden 54% South of Lansing.

                                                              Furthermore, Gov. Whitmer (Dem) has made absolute SH#$ decisions during the Covid epidemic. Most people are realizing Michigan has gone to sh#$ with a DEM as the governor.

                                                              Like I said... it's hard to forecast the future... but the odds should be more like Biden -180 and Trump +160 for Michigan.

                                                              We all talk about "VALUE" and.... let's face it... VALUE only occurs when you win. But I really can't see Michigan going DEM in the election on Nov 3.
                                                              I live here and go up north all the time

                                                              Spot on
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                                                              • vitterd
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                                                                • 09-14-17
                                                                • 58460

                                                                #731
                                                                Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                I live here and go up north all the time

                                                                Spot on
                                                                But you said Thalib was gonna lose and she won by 30 points.....why would anyone take you seriously after a prediction like that? I think you even know you’re an idiot
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                                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                  #732
                                                                  Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                                                  I live here and go up north all the time

                                                                  Spot on
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                                                                  • Kermit
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                                                                    • 09-27-10
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                                                                    #733
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    Trump just landed at the airport in my city.

                                                                    Holy shit. You can't get within 2 miles of that place. 100's if not 1,000's cars parked everywhere. And I live in a small town in Pa.
                                                                    He's speaking right now live on my local news channel on Facebook.

                                                                    Over 900+ Hearts, 700+ Likes and 90 dislikes.

                                                                    If Biden is leading all of these polls, why isn't there more dislikes?

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                                                                    • vitterd
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                                                                      • 09-14-17
                                                                      • 58460

                                                                      #734
                                                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                      He's speaking right now live on my local news channel on Facebook.

                                                                      Over 900+ Hearts, 700+ Likes and 90 dislikes.

                                                                      If Biden is leading all of these polls, why isn't there more dislikes?

                                                                      https://www.facebook.com/WJACTV
                                                                      Only the cult is watching. Facebook likes. Lmao. Jesus you have no idea the beating coming your way.
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                                                                      • Kermit
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                                                                        • 09-27-10
                                                                        • 32555

                                                                        #735
                                                                        Originally posted by vitterd
                                                                        Only the cult is watching. Facebook likes. Lmao. Jesus you have no idea the beating coming your way.
                                                                        You don't have to watch to drop a dislike. You know damn well everyone who hates him locally is watching to see if he says something they can jump on and share.

                                                                        1/2 of the people that follow Trump on twitter are people that hate him and only follow to keep updated with what he says next.

                                                                        I don't even follow Trump on Twitter or Facebook.
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