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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #176
    Originally posted by firedawg


    Why were my comments deleted... ?


    Really

    Yes , Really

    Someone (not Sammy) could have Reported your comments

    We are trying to clean-up SBR
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    • pinnacle420
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-01-12
      • 6254

      #177
      Originally posted by Sam Odom
      Yes , Really

      Someone (not Sammy) could have Reported your comments

      We are trying to clean-up SBR
      Good input Rocco!!!
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #178
        Two peas in a pod

        GL in December boys !
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        • manny24
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-22-07
          • 20046

          #179
          badgers +15.5
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          • firedawg
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 10-08-08
            • 39219

            #180
            Sammy can't post winners under his Odom account

            So he posts under Rocco and still fukkin hits at 14% combined


            JFC
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            • bhoor
              SBR MVP
              • 12-17-12
              • 2257

              #181
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              Not sure but I know bases is the easiest sport to beat. Ask Vegas
              yes
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #182
                Sammy loves Baseball for many reasons... Gambling edge is just one 'em
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                • arrgy
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-10-14
                  • 162

                  #183
                  In all honesty, it depends on the league. Take the NFL, ever look at all the scores for the entire week? Take today, for the exception of the obvious Jets game, every total was at least 30. I basically threw that game and the Denver game out, and set up 10-13 point Over teasers on a round robin approach, every single teaser hit and I made a real nice profit. Go back every week, and for the exception of your low scoring teams, Pitt, Bills, Jets, etc. every game is going at least into the 30s.

                  Take the Bowls. In games with teams with different records. The team with the more wins so far is 17-4 in scoring first. A trend that has gone back for years.

                  NHL 75-80% of teams leading after the first period will win the game.

                  Some things I won't touch. Soccer is top on the list. Losing with a draw makes that sport so difficult. Yet in a typical match day with the EPL, it is rare to find a scoreless game, and betting over .5 total with all its juice is still hugely profitable. So far this year, there has been only one team involved in a back to back scoreless games.

                  College basketball is somewhat nuts. To me that is a pure ML play. NBA games are super stupid, might as well flip a coin.

                  MLB most times just depends on the starting pitcher, I know guys who make a ton on the F5, and I know some who make a ton on the 2nd inning no run bet as well.

                  All the leagues come down to a couple of things, one is money management. Second, unless you are preparing to do live betting and you haven't already wagered, don't watch the game. You are now, more then ever, tempted to hedge or double your bet and get killed in live betting.
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                  • arrgy
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-10-14
                    • 162

                    #184
                    Originally posted by Nickelchip2
                    In Barry Greenstein's poker book Ace on the River, he has a whole chapter dedicated to poker players that bet sports. Basically the moral of the story is, choose poker or choose sports betting, but not both. The time required to be good at one doesn't allow enough time to be good at both.
                    which is why a lot of poker players get creamed at the craps tables. I hate poker, but love craps, and love watching these guys "take a break" and spend a few and lose a lot at a crap table. Its funny and sad.
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                    • Thunderground
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-09-15
                      • 256

                      #185
                      Soccer has a spread.

                      Man, I long for the days of Tradesports. You could sell a game at 99 (for 0-100 range) five minutes before the game was finished. You could offer 40 or 42 (with 50 being the kickoff price) and let the offer run out after 8 minutes (or any preferred time) in a NBA game. So any early fluctuation that people couldn't stomach got you the best prices. I know books have live betting, but the juice is sky high. Tradesports had almost no juice.
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                      • Sawyer
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-01-09
                        • 7761

                        #186
                        Pick value and it's easy to win. New Orleans was +115 yesterday. Then odds changed to -115, and later -200. (Harden out) If you were able to grab the value before books drop, you win over long haul.

                        Btw, I think soccer is more beatable then American Sports. Baseball & hockey easier to beat then football. Basketball harder to beat then baseball&hockey but easier then football. College sports easier to beat also.
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                        • HAPPY BOY
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 7109

                          #187
                          YES...next
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #188
                            All the money you invested in gambling and put in stock market and your a massive winner last 30 years and will happen next 30 years
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                            • Sam Odom
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-30-05
                              • 58063

                              #189
                              JJ

                              buy SPDR monthly
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #190
                                Sammy excellent long term strategy
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                                • Okieirish
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-03-19
                                  • 879

                                  #191
                                  A professional might make money on college football, but not pro. Pro goes about last night with Seattle having tons of chances to cover and ending up an inch short of a TD. Lots of pro games go like that. The amount of people that can beat the system is small enough Vegas is not worried. Look at the pick 6. The very best pickers are 55-60%. And the longer the time period is, that will likely go down.
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                                  • byronbb
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-13-08
                                    • 3067

                                    #192
                                    They are coming back apparently. https://www.tradesports.com/
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                                    • Smoke
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-09-09
                                      • 48111

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by byronbb
                                      They are coming back apparently. https://www.tradesports.com/
                                      Oh wow
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                                      • BigdaddyQH
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-13-09
                                        • 19530

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                        Lol who do you book with guy? Are you a pro lol. Grammar cop. Funny. I’d bet I have made more money gambling this year then your formula has...
                                        I bet that you have not make a penny overall. You guys are nothing more than amateurs. You brag about your winners and conveniently forget about your losers. I guarantee you that I have made more money in the last 10 years than EVERYONE in here added up, because the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of posters in here are LOSERS overall. I have several advantages that you people are lacking. First, I stick to ONE sport. Mine is Football. The only other sport that I seriously wager on is College Hoops and then only when I KNOW that the shave is in. That happens a lot more than people think. I will never tell anyone when that happens because I have a lot of respect for the people who tell me. That is why hoops in general is suck a poor play. Guys who claim to wager on every sport around in fact, wager on NONE. There are so many wanna-be's in here that it is pathetic. If you want to actually play to win, stick to one sport. Become an expert in that one sport. Have a huge bankroll. Do your homework. Most importantly, you either have that something special or not. Most people do not. It is not something you can develop. You either have it or you don't. Despite what some of our Liberal idiot friends think, all men are NOT Created equal.
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                                        • firedawg
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 10-08-08
                                          • 39219

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                          I bet that you have not make a penny overall. You guys are nothing more than amateurs. You brag about your winners and conveniently forget about your losers. I guarantee you that I have made more money in the last 10 years than EVERYONE in here added up, because the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of posters in here are LOSERS overall. I have several advantages that you people are lacking. First, I stick to ONE sport. Mine is Football. The only other sport that I seriously wager on is College Hoops and then only when I KNOW that the shave is in. That happens a lot more than people think. I will never tell anyone when that happens because I have a lot of respect for the people who tell me. That is why hoops in general is suck a poor play. Guys who claim to wager on every sport around in fact, wager on NONE. There are so many wanna-be's in here that it is pathetic. If you want to actually play to win, stick to one sport. Become an expert in that one sport. Have a huge bankroll. Do your homework. Most importantly, you either have that something special or not. Most people do not. It is not something you can develop. You either have it or you don't. Despite what some of our Liberal idiot friends think, all men are NOT Created equal.
                                          You are a fukkin loser

                                          Shut the fukk up or I'll slap the fat rolls off your neck
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                                          • Booya711
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-20-11
                                            • 27329

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by firedawg
                                            You are a fukkin loser

                                            Shut the fukk up or I'll slap the fat rolls off your neck
                                            dude would be so fun at parties...
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                                            • gauchojake
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-17-10
                                              • 34120

                                              #197
                                              Greenstein went bust specializing in poker
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                                              • mjsuax13
                                                Moderator
                                                • 03-14-15
                                                • 25201

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                I bet that you have not make a penny overall. You guys are nothing more than amateurs. You brag about your winners and conveniently forget about your losers. I guarantee you that I have made more money in the last 10 years than EVERYONE in here added up, because the truth of the matter is that the vast majority of posters in here are LOSERS overall. I have several advantages that you people are lacking. First, I stick to ONE sport. Mine is Football. The only other sport that I seriously wager on is College Hoops and then only when I KNOW that the shave is in. That happens a lot more than people think. I will never tell anyone when that happens because I have a lot of respect for the people who tell me. That is why hoops in general is suck a poor play. Guys who claim to wager on every sport around in fact, wager on NONE. There are so many wanna-be's in here that it is pathetic. If you want to actually play to win, stick to one sport. Become an expert in that one sport. Have a huge bankroll. Do your homework. Most importantly, you either have that something special or not. Most people do not. It is not something you can develop. You either have it or you don't. Despite what some of our Liberal idiot friends think, all men are NOT Created equal.
                                                You are a moron.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #199
                                                  Everyone’s an amateur when it comes to gambling
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                                                  • BigdaddyQH
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-13-09
                                                    • 19530

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Everyone’s an amateur when it comes to gambling
                                                    Speak for yourself JJ. You can't win anything. You are a failure in everything you do. A total FAILURE!
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                                                    • deeppckts
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-19-12
                                                      • 830

                                                      #201
                                                      Poker is for losers and doesn't scale well
                                                      Sports is about getting good numbers, not picking winners. If you've decided on a bet before even seeing the price, you're definitely a sucker and a losing gambler.
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by deeppckts
                                                        ...Sports is about getting good numbers, not picking winners....
                                                        So many will never get this...lol.
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                                                        • lonegambler23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-22-16
                                                          • 9760

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                          Speak for yourself JJ. You can't win anything. You are a failure in everything you do. A total FAILURE!
                                                          we need a big daddy video
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                                                          • The General
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 13279

                                                            #204
                                                            This is such a strange discussion. If you say yea its beatable then show it. Thats why we are here, right. Atleast it used to be on forums. Wednesday is a great day to begin proving how beatable sportsbetting is. Day 1......Go! No hurry, we got yrs.
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                                                            • JaimeMiro
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-14-17
                                                              • 2515

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by arrgy
                                                              In all honesty, it depends on the league. Take the NFL, ever look at all the scores for the entire week? Take today, for the exception of the obvious Jets game, every total was at least 30. I basically threw that game and the Denver game out, and set up 10-13 point Over teasers on a round robin approach, every single teaser hit and I made a real nice profit. Go back every week, and for the exception of your low scoring teams, Pitt, Bills, Jets, etc. every game is going at least into the 30s.

                                                              Take the Bowls. In games with teams with different records. The team with the more wins so far is 17-4 in scoring first. A trend that has gone back for years.

                                                              NHL 75-80% of teams leading after the first period will win the game.

                                                              Some things I won't touch. Soccer is top on the list. Losing with a draw makes that sport so difficult. Yet in a typical match day with the EPL, it is rare to find a scoreless game, and betting over .5 total with all its juice is still hugely profitable. So far this year, there has been only one team involved in a back to back scoreless games.

                                                              College basketball is somewhat nuts. To me that is a pure ML play. NBA games are super stupid, might as well flip a coin.

                                                              MLB most times just depends on the starting pitcher, I know guys who make a ton on the F5, and I know some who make a ton on the 2nd inning no run bet as well.

                                                              All the leagues come down to a couple of things, one is money management. Second, unless you are preparing to do live betting and you haven't already wagered, don't watch the game. You are now, more then ever, tempted to hedge or double your bet and get killed in live betting.
                                                              CBB madness at its best; no.11 Butler up 37 - 16 at the half, all is good. Gets outscored 30 - 9 & wins 60 - 58. Spread for was Butler -4.
                                                              Which is why I prefer tennis
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                                                              • DoctorStrong
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 12-11-19
                                                                • 759

                                                                #206
                                                                10 point sweetheart teasers NFL tease the +4.5's and the +7.5's, easy money
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                                                                • StackinGreen
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-09-10
                                                                  • 12140

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by The General
                                                                  I write tickets. 99.9% can be told they are losing as i hand them a ticket, but they dont and wont hear that. They desire to lose money and want no part of logic. They want action and a dream. It makes No sense.
                                                                  You cash the lucky (losing player's) stupid parlays all the time too --- be a little honest here. I get your point, but it's a bit much on the exaggeration.

                                                                  The truth is that yes, most aren't disciplined enough and think what goes into "winning" sports betting isn't literally hard work like any other job. The thing is, you have to be smarter and have angles that most average joes don't have in order to get these advantages or angles. Unless you are a spot player and good 'capper that is allowed to bet $50,000-100,000 on games which is not common (if you win, especially).

                                                                  The biggest mistake I see time and again is locking on to a side or total and then betting into bad (inflated) numbers. This is usually the favorite and/or over. They would drastically increase their winning % and ROI if they recognized it, even faded it, but that would be too hard for them emotionally --- less action and going against themselves are not what they are there for. I hear ya.
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by The General
                                                                    This is such a strange discussion. If you say yea its beatable then show it. Thats why we are here, right. Atleast it used to be on forums. Wednesday is a great day to begin proving how beatable sportsbetting is. Day 1......Go! No hurry, we got yrs.
                                                                    Like I said, only worthwhile if the guy takes $50k plays and there are no taxes. You have to be a huge, spot player to win, or have models and ways to get lots of bets in without changing lines (high volume). These are the only two ways to win.
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                                                                    • CIS
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 07-29-19
                                                                      • 62

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by The General
                                                                      This is such a strange discussion. If you say yea its beatable then show it. Thats why we are here, right. Atleast it used to be on forums. Wednesday is a great day to begin proving how beatable sportsbetting is. Day 1......Go! No hurry, we got yrs.
                                                                      Maybe it's not beatable in Asia for a long term... Idk, don't bet only in Asia... Started doing a side project tho about 3-month ago but sample is pretty small now to draw any conclusion. But betting in soft bookies is easily beatable. Their lines are often wrong or bookie itself is too slow here. Idk how it is in US but in EU, it's pretty easy to get new bet365 or other local soft bookie accounts to continue business... Hard part is getting the money in. Once u figured that out(via making new accounts, buying, using stakers etc) then its pretty easy route by being disciplined enough and taking good info bets only. Hardest part is and always will be the human factor. Which means becoming too emotional when it is not necessary. Once you become deattached from the outcome and focusing only on the process, the reward comes by itself.
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                                                                      • TheLock
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 04-06-08
                                                                        • 14427

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        Impossible. Waste of time until tournament
                                                                        Laker, you can’t play NFL sides and totals regularly and then say NCAA is impossible pre-tourney.
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