Supreme Court Approves State Sports Betting

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  • BriGuy
    SBR MVP
    • 12-06-11
    • 1556

    #141
    Originally posted by alling
    Read somewhere the feds will jump in make it legal throughout the country.
    Whomever wrote that has no clue what they are talking about. The federal government cannot force states to allow things which are not Constitutional rights. Gambling is not a Constitutional right.
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    • hubie69
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-16-10
      • 7329

      #142
      Going back to the tax side of this, with the league's wanting their cut and local taxes getting a cut I don't know how they're going to do this without a high juice overhead.
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      • MadTiger
        SBR MVP
        • 04-19-09
        • 2724

        #143
        Originally posted by HedgeHog
        How long before I can bet at Pinnacle again and fund my account with Neteller?
        Fugging this. I can't remember the exact date years ago (April something), but I can remember the feeling of loss when Pinnacle, Neteller, et al ditched the USA. #BlackFridayUIGEA
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        • shadymcgrady
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-27-12
          • 10036

          #144
          Anyone who's ever been to NJ knows that you need transportation to get anywhere

          Why would someone want to drive out of their way to place wagers when they can just do it from their palm or pocket?

          Offshore, local it doesn't matter. The Internet doesn't recognize state borders
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          • artyfudgepacker
            SBR MVP
            • 01-06-13
            • 2205

            #145
            So what does that mean for me in south Carolina??? And my local ????
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            • capitalist pig
              SBR MVP
              • 01-25-07
              • 4997

              #146
              Im in FL and I doubt it will happen here very quickly or at all. But Im only 2.5 hours from Biloxi MS and Id sooner drive there every weekend and place my wagers or use a mobile app from there, than deal with the off shore book thing.

              later
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              • mtnman
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-15-13
                • 4

                #147
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen
                Wrong.
                Last edited by shari91; 05-14-18, 11:41 AM. Reason: Racist trash
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                • ikid2groove415
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-08-18
                  • 11981

                  #148
                  Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                  Anyone who's ever been to NJ knows that you need transportation to get anywhere

                  Why would someone want to drive out of their way to place wagers when they can just do it from their palm or pocket?

                  Offshore, local it doesn't matter. The Internet doesn't recognize state borders
                  Both has its Benifit- but There’s nothing like winning and getting cash instantly
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #149
                    Feds & States will go harder to stop funding of 'off shore' outs when more states allow sports wagering
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                    • dbartinbwgc
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-11-08
                      • 795

                      #150
                      Originally posted by SBR Tony
                      no way
                      It will quickly weed out the bad ones that dont pay.
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                      • Hman
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-04-17
                        • 21429

                        #151
                        Originally posted by artyfudgepacker
                        So what does that mean for me in south Carolina??? And my local ????

                        This will give you an idea of what states have already been taking this serious & planning for it:

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                        • thetrinity
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-25-11
                          • 22430

                          #152
                          Originally posted by hubie69
                          Going back to the tax side of this, with the league's wanting their cut and local taxes getting a cut I don't know how they're going to do this without a high juice overhead.
                          Exactly why we should all not get overly excited. Will depend on how much competition is going to be in place.
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                          • turkkatarian
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-12-16
                            • 2748

                            #153
                            Originally posted by mtnman
                            Wrong.
                            I agree mtnman. I think this ruling Kills offshore eventually. Especially if we are able to bet online with an American based book. Simple legal deposits with simple legal payouts. Skys the Limits for USA based books. And adios to Offshore ripoffs.
                            Last edited by shari91; 05-14-18, 11:42 AM.
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                            • dbartinbwgc
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-11-08
                              • 795

                              #154
                              Originally posted by turkkatarian
                              I agree mtnman. I think this ruling Kills offshore eventually. Especially if we are able to bet online with an American based book. Simple legal deposits with simple legal payouts. Skys the Limits for USA based books. And adios to Offshore ripoffs.
                              When you say offshore meaning "not in USA"
                              I doubt that, plenty of big Legit books in Europe and Asia
                              will be doing all they can to back states and get in on the action
                              Look at the the ones that advertise during soccer matches over there
                              and they even sponsor teams. I do think that they will be regulated
                              and have to a financial backing to insure payment of bets.
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                              • turkkatarian
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-12-16
                                • 2748

                                #155
                                Originally posted by dbartinbwgc
                                When you say offshore meaning "not in USA"
                                I doubt that, plenty of big Legit books in Europe and Asia
                                will be doing all they can to back states and get in on the action
                                Look at the the ones that advertise during soccer matches over there
                                and they even sponsor teams. I do think that they will be regulated
                                and have to a financial backing to insure payment of bets.
                                Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?
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                                • jimminn
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-23-11
                                  • 1176

                                  #156
                                  DUH Doesn't mean anything to me. I place bets everyday on my computer. Does it get any better than that ?
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                                  • jtoler
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-17-13
                                    • 30967

                                    #157
                                    only an idiot would cheer this on
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                                    • keely85
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-15
                                      • 4296

                                      #158
                                      yeah this is going to lead to some great competition for your money i would imagine? better promos, fees on deposit or withdrawal?
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                                      • mtnman
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 08-15-13
                                        • 4

                                        #159
                                        Yeah, there's just no way. These idiotic Costa Ricans are so goddamn incompetent. You read the forum posts where people post their correspondence with books, you see how these — treat their customers, who have no recourse. It's just terrible.

                                        Once the US-based options open up, it's lights out in San Juan. Good riddance.
                                        Last edited by shari91; 05-14-18, 11:43 AM.
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                                        • ikid2groove415
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-08-18
                                          • 11981

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                          only an idiot would cheer this on
                                          Many life’s will be ruin
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                                          • thetrinity
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-25-11
                                            • 22430

                                            #161
                                            I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here
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                                            • ikid2groove415
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-08-18
                                              • 11981

                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by thetrinity
                                              I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here
                                              It’s like buying coke at your local grocery store
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                                              • hubie69
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-10
                                                • 7329

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                                Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?
                                                Because perhaps you don't want to bet a game at -130, regardless of side? This ruling is good and I'm really happy about it, however, when was the last time the State or Federal governement got involved with something and you said "I'm glad they're involved, they did a great and efficient job?"

                                                OffShore will still exist and likely be very competitive.
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                                                • dbartinbwgc
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-11-08
                                                  • 795

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                                  Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?
                                                  You dont understand, you buy a Honda car you dont have to wait for it to be delivered or send it to get serviced.
                                                  They will open US Based locations and have financial backing in the US.
                                                  The states will be looking for companies to fund and back the sportsbook and they take a cut.
                                                  It will be a "what do you have to offer us $$$" type bidding and I'm guessing several sportsbooks/financial institutions
                                                  in the US and abroad will be offering a lot for there chance to get involved.
                                                  You will still bet or deposit money in the US they will just be the "financial risk" of the operation.
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                                                  • shadymcgrady
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-27-12
                                                    • 10036

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by mtnman
                                                    Yeah, there's just no way. These idiotic Costa Ricans are so goddamn incompetent. You read the forum posts where people post their correspondence with books, you see how these treat their customers, who have no recourse. It's just terrible.

                                                    Once the US-based options open up, it's lights out in San Juan. Good riddance.
                                                    While there is merit to your claims don't you think it's a bit harsh? Can't we just chalk it up as bad business practice or the inability to see long term?
                                                    Last edited by shari91; 05-14-18, 11:44 AM.
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                                                    • Bostongambler
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-01-08
                                                      • 35581

                                                      #166
                                                      They say NJ could have everything in place by the NBA final
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                        I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here
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                                                        • Philmill
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-30-11
                                                          • 4275

                                                          #168
                                                          The big offshores will invest in the US market.....SBR will still be around....chill mods
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                                                          • hubie69
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-16-10
                                                            • 7329

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                            I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here
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                                                            • thetrinity
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-25-11
                                                              • 22430

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by Philmill
                                                              The big offshores will invest in the US market.....SBR will still be around....chill mods
                                                              Agreed. How much will the price go up is the problem. We have to see how this shakes out.
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                                                              • Ramster
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 06-08-09
                                                                • 81

                                                                #171
                                                                They will tax the fk out of you.
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                                                                • LT Profits
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                                  • 90963

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by turkkatarian
                                                                  Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?
                                                                  Again, plenty of reputable offshores that pay. It is all about finding the best price, and I highly doubt that would be at a legal USA book.
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                                                                  • jtoler
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 12-17-13
                                                                    • 30967

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by Ramster
                                                                    They will tax the fk out of you.
                                                                    1 bad thing about this, I can think of about 10 more.
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                                                                    • ikid2groove415
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                                      • 11981

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Gambling addicts beware LOL- easy access isn’t always good
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                                                                      • High3rEl3m3nt
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-28-10
                                                                        • 8022

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                                        No hassle at all sticking with the reputable offshore books that have reduced juice, I am not one to lay -110 just for the sake of convenience.
                                                                        LT, I think it's important to assess the differences between you and the average, desired offshore customer. A lot of volume is going to be diverted to the states once they get their ish together. The lifeblood of the offshore industry comprises of gamblers who do not care if they are laying -110, -115, -120. Could be trouble.
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