Supreme Court Approves State Sports Betting

**BriGuy** · 05-14-18, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by alling

Read somewhere the feds will jump in make it legal throughout the country.

Whomever wrote that has no clue what they are talking about. The federal government cannot force states to allow things which are not Constitutional rights. Gambling is not a Constitutional right.

**hubie69** · 05-14-18, 10:47 AM

Going back to the tax side of this, with the league's wanting their cut and local taxes getting a cut I don't know how they're going to do this without a high juice overhead.

**MadTiger** · 05-14-18, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

How long before I can bet at Pinnacle again and fund my account with Neteller?

Fugging this. I can't remember the exact date years ago (April something), but I can remember the feeling of loss when Pinnacle, Neteller, et al ditched the USA. #BlackFridayUIGEA

**shadymcgrady** · 05-14-18, 10:50 AM

Anyone who's ever been to NJ knows that you need transportation to get anywhere

Why would someone want to drive out of their way to place wagers when they can just do it from their palm or pocket?

Offshore, local it doesn't matter. The Internet doesn't recognize state borders

**artyfudgepacker** · 05-14-18, 10:51 AM

So what does that mean for me in south Carolina??? And my local ????

**capitalist pig** · 05-14-18, 10:51 AM

Im in FL and I doubt it will happen here very quickly or at all. But Im only 2.5 hours from Biloxi MS and Id sooner drive there every weekend and place my wagers or use a mobile app from there, than deal with the off shore book thing.

later

**mtnman** · 05-14-18, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen

Wrong.

**ikid2groove415** · 05-14-18, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Anyone who's ever been to NJ knows that you need transportation to get anywhere

Why would someone want to drive out of their way to place wagers when they can just do it from their palm or pocket?

Offshore, local it doesn't matter. The Internet doesn't recognize state borders

Both has its Benifit- but There’s nothing like winning and getting cash instantly

**Sam Odom** · 05-14-18, 10:54 AM

Feds & States will go harder to stop funding of 'off shore' outs when more states allow sports wagering

**dbartinbwgc** · 05-14-18, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by SBR Tony

no way

It will quickly weed out the bad ones that dont pay.

**Hman** · 05-14-18, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by artyfudgepacker

So what does that mean for me in south Carolina??? And my local ????

This will give you an idea of what states have already been taking this serious & planning for it:

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https://www.legalsportsreport.com/sportsbetting-bill-tracker/

**thetrinity** · 05-14-18, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by hubie69

Going back to the tax side of this, with the league's wanting their cut and local taxes getting a cut I don't know how they're going to do this without a high juice overhead.

Exactly why we should all not get overly excited. Will depend on how much competition is going to be in place.

**turkkatarian** · 05-14-18, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by mtnman

Wrong.

I agree mtnman. I think this ruling Kills offshore eventually. Especially if we are able to bet online with an American based book. Simple legal deposits with simple legal payouts. Skys the Limits for USA based books. And adios to Offshore ripoffs.

**dbartinbwgc** · 05-14-18, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by turkkatarian

I agree mtnman. I think this ruling Kills offshore eventually. Especially if we are able to bet online with an American based book. Simple legal deposits with simple legal payouts. Skys the Limits for USA based books. And adios to Offshore ripoffs.

When you say offshore meaning "not in USA"
I doubt that, plenty of big Legit books in Europe and Asia
will be doing all they can to back states and get in on the action
Look at the the ones that advertise during soccer matches over there
and they even sponsor teams. I do think that they will be regulated
and have to a financial backing to insure payment of bets.

**turkkatarian** · 05-14-18, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by dbartinbwgc

When you say offshore meaning "not in USA"
I doubt that, plenty of big Legit books in Europe and Asia
will be doing all they can to back states and get in on the action
Look at the the ones that advertise during soccer matches over there
and they even sponsor teams. I do think that they will be regulated
and have to a financial backing to insure payment of bets.

Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?

**jimminn** · 05-14-18, 11:08 AM

DUH Doesn't mean anything to me. I place bets everyday on my computer. Does it get any better than that ?

**jtoler** · 05-14-18, 11:08 AM

only an idiot would cheer this on

**keely85** · 05-14-18, 11:09 AM

yeah this is going to lead to some great competition for your money i would imagine? better promos, fees on deposit or withdrawal?

**mtnman** · 05-14-18, 11:10 AM

Yeah, there's just no way. These idiotic Costa Ricans are so goddamn incompetent. You read the forum posts where people post their correspondence with books, you see how these — treat their customers, who have no recourse. It's just terrible.

Once the US-based options open up, it's lights out in San Juan. Good riddance.

**ikid2groove415** · 05-14-18, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

only an idiot would cheer this on

Many life’s will be ruin

**thetrinity** · 05-14-18, 11:13 AM

I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here

**ikid2groove415** · 05-14-18, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by thetrinity

I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here

It’s like buying coke at your local grocery store

**hubie69** · 05-14-18, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by turkkatarian

Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?

Because perhaps you don't want to bet a game at -130, regardless of side? This ruling is good and I'm really happy about it, however, when was the last time the State or Federal governement got involved with something and you said "I'm glad they're involved, they did a great and efficient job?"

OffShore will still exist and likely be very competitive.

**dbartinbwgc** · 05-14-18, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by turkkatarian

Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?

You dont understand, you buy a Honda car you dont have to wait for it to be delivered or send it to get serviced.
They will open US Based locations and have financial backing in the US.
The states will be looking for companies to fund and back the sportsbook and they take a cut.
It will be a "what do you have to offer us $$$" type bidding and I'm guessing several sportsbooks/financial institutions
in the US and abroad will be offering a lot for there chance to get involved.
You will still bet or deposit money in the US they will just be the "financial risk" of the operation.

**shadymcgrady** · 05-14-18, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by mtnman

Yeah, there's just no way. These idiotic Costa Ricans are so goddamn incompetent. You read the forum posts where people post their correspondence with books, you see how these treat their customers, who have no recourse. It's just terrible.

Once the US-based options open up, it's lights out in San Juan. Good riddance.

While there is merit to your claims don't you think it's a bit harsh? Can't we just chalk it up as bad business practice or the inability to see long term?

**Bostongambler** · 05-14-18, 11:26 AM

They say NJ could have everything in place by the NBA final

**JIBBBY** · 05-14-18, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by thetrinity

I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here

**Philmill** · 05-14-18, 11:27 AM

The big offshores will invest in the US market.....SBR will still be around....chill mods

**hubie69** · 05-14-18, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by thetrinity

I don't think a lot of people fully grasp what's actually happened here

**thetrinity** · 05-14-18, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Philmill

The big offshores will invest in the US market.....SBR will still be around....chill mods

Agreed. How much will the price go up is the problem. We have to see how this shakes out.

**Ramster** · 05-14-18, 11:38 AM

They will tax the fk out of you.

**LT Profits** · 05-14-18, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by turkkatarian

Why? Why would I as an american want to send my money offshore and get burned or slow paid when I can easily use an American Based site legally and get paid the next day?

Again, plenty of reputable offshores that pay. It is all about finding the best price, and I highly doubt that would be at a legal USA book.

**jtoler** · 05-14-18, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Ramster

They will tax the fk out of you.

1 bad thing about this, I can think of about 10 more.

**ikid2groove415** · 05-14-18, 11:45 AM

Gambling addicts beware LOL- easy access isn’t always good

**High3rEl3m3nt** · 05-14-18, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

No hassle at all sticking with the reputable offshore books that have reduced juice, I am not one to lay -110 just for the sake of convenience.

LT, I think it's important to assess the differences between you and the average, desired offshore customer. A lot of volume is going to be diverted to the states once they get their ish together. The lifeblood of the offshore industry comprises of gamblers who do not care if they are laying -110, -115, -120. Could be trouble.