Supreme Court Approves State Sports Betting

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  • BriGuy
    SBR MVP
    • 12-06-11
    • 1556

    #106
    Originally posted by alling
    These are the indisputable facts:
    Passed 7-2

    Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
    I hate liberals as much as anyone, but the SCOTUS wasn't deciding on the issue of gambling. This was a states-rights issue.

    Conservatives tend to support states-rights. Liberals tend to oppose states-rights. As such, it is no surprise that the 2 most hard core liberals dissented. However, the fact that it was 7-2 is the Supreme Court equivalent of a sports blowout like Celtics-Cavs yesterday.
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    • ikid2groove415
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-08-18
      • 11981

      #107
      Originally posted by hubie69
      It's unreal to me, I never thought I would see this day....Watch congress attempt to fsck this up
      Congress likes money PAL-
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      • hubie69
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-16-10
        • 7329

        #108
        Originally posted by slambam
        Are you in Iowa? I've heard from local casinos that they'll optimistic it'll get passed, and if/when it is passed, the setup plans to accept bets are already made. One of the local casinos here is owned by a Vegas chain, so I wouldn't think it'd take much to get them started.
        I too am in IA and have heard similar things. Even if not it's quick hop for me over to a neighboring state that does have it. *hopefully* they get it passed here though
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        • tblues2005
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-30-06
          • 9235

          #109
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          Sorry, didn't see you aready responded.
          He forgot Mississippi.
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          • Derailer
            SBR Sharp
            • 10-04-17
            • 422

            #110
            Originally posted by BriGuy
            I hate liberals as much as anyone, but the SCOTUS wasn't deciding on the issue of gambling. This was a states-rights issue.

            Conservatives tend to support states-rights. Liberals tend to oppose states-rights. As such, it is no surprise that the 2 most hard core liberals dissented. However, the fact that it was 7-2 is the Supreme Court equivalent of a sports blowout like Celtics-Cavs yesterday.
            Watch and see how many Republican states allow gambling.
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            • ikid2groove415
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-08-18
              • 11981

              #111
              Networks like dieing ESPN is probly celebrating- more gamblers equal more viewers
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              • BriGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 12-06-11
                • 1556

                #112
                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                Congress likes money PAL-
                When Congress is involved, it is very easy to bet on the status quo. The problem is that for about a quarter century, the status quo was PASPA.

                As of 1 hour ago, we have a brand new status quo. Too many states want this to stay legal so I just don't see Congress upending the (new) status quo.
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                • hubie69
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-16-10
                  • 7329

                  #113
                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                  Networks like dieing ESPN is probly celebrating- more gamblers equal more viewers
                  Agreed, and I think ESPN can actually have gambling based programming. It'll probably be trash like everything else on their network, but people will watch it now
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                  • ouzoun
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-21-12
                    • 322

                    #114
                    It happened with D. Trump as a president.
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                    • ikid2groove415
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-08-18
                      • 11981

                      #115
                      Originally posted by BriGuy
                      When Congress is involved, it is very easy to bet on the status quo. The problem is that for about a quarter century, the status quo was PASPA.

                      As of 1 hour ago, we have a brand new status quo. Too many states want this to stay legal so I just don't see Congress upending the (new) status quo.
                      Almost all the western states have legalized marijuana- it’s all about money -
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                      • ikid2groove415
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-08-18
                        • 11981

                        #116
                        Originally posted by ouzoun
                        It happened with D. Trump as a president.
                        The Donald wins again
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                        • saints7011
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-21-09
                          • 5544

                          #117
                          Routine fly ball to center...

                          This game is over...

                          WTF!!! Bradley Jr. drops the ball , three runs score...
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                          • A4K
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-08-12
                            • 5243

                            #118
                            Originally posted by BriGuy
                            Indian casinos still have to follow federal and state laws (otherwise, they'd already have sports gambling in place). So each Indian casino will still be at the mercy of their state legislature.
                            Nope. I worked for a tribe. They could have done sports betting whenever they wanted but they would have violated negotiated compacts with whichever state they are in. The federal government does not regulate their gambling activities, only how the money gets reported.
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                            • JohnGalt2341
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-31-09
                              • 9138

                              #119
                              The Lottery can't be happy about this. The Lottery's payout is approximately 50%. Offshore Sportsbooks payout is approximately 95%. What will legalized Sportbetting payout be? In many places in the U.S. The Lottery has had a monopoly on gambling. I can't imagine that it would want ANY competition. If legalized sportsbetting happens in the U.S. and they allow parlay bets it's virtually the same as playing the Lottery with a better payout. I would think this would hurt the Lottery's business. Like some other posters have basically said... I'll believe it when I see it.
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                              • StackinGreen
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-09-10
                                • 12140

                                #120
                                Originally posted by hubie69
                                Agreed, and I think ESPN can actually have gambling based programming. It'll probably be trash like everything else on their network, but people will watch it now
                                People keep talking about this but this is so far removed from what the ruling is. Is it theoretical? Yes. But it requires very strict laws that vary BY STATE.

                                I'm not sure why this got to be a talking point on the radio this AM. Most sports shows know even less than I ever thought about sports ... and particularly sports wagering.
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                                • cincinnatikid513
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-23-17
                                  • 45360

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by hubie69
                                  Agreed, and I think ESPN can actually have gambling based programming. It'll probably be trash like everything else on their network, but people will watch it now

                                  disney owns espn so we shall see if they will have a gambling show might be what saves espn since nobody is watching
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                                  • BriGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-06-11
                                    • 1556

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by A4K
                                    Nope. I worked for a tribe. They could have done sports betting whenever they wanted but they would have violated negotiated compacts with whichever state they are in. The federal government does not regulate their gambling activities, only how the money gets reported.
                                    I worked for a tribe too, and you're wrong.

                                    Think about it logically: If tribes could legalize sports gambling whenever they wanted to, dont'cha think at least one of them out there would have..?
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                                    • ikid2groove415
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-08-18
                                      • 11981

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                      disney owns espn so we shall see if they will have a gambling show might be what saves espn since nobody is watching
                                      Ya do know Disney is in a bidding war with Comcast to buy FOX? Talks are around 56 BILLIONS
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                                      • DOM_Toretto
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-28-13
                                        • 9035

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                                        New Jersey should be in time for NFL season.
                                        AC Casinos planning to be ready in time for NBA Finals in a couple weeks.
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                                        • StackinGreen
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-09-10
                                          • 12140

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by BriGuy
                                          I hate liberals as much as anyone, but the SCOTUS wasn't deciding on the issue of gambling. This was a states-rights issue.

                                          Conservatives tend to support states-rights. Liberals tend to oppose states-rights. As such, it is no surprise that the 2 most hard core liberals dissented. However, the fact that it was 7-2 is the Supreme Court equivalent of a sports blowout like Celtics-Cavs yesterday.
                                          This was the most clearly unconstitutional law on the books, and it was by far. The law is unequivocal about this, and we even had a weird carve out (Vegas) that made PASPA completely nonsensical from the beginning.

                                          There is absolutely no point in the 10th Amendment (yes, the last of the BILL OF RIGHTS) if you don't have even a minimalist interpretation of States rights. These justices literally invent shit out of thin air. It's beyond laughable.

                                          Let me just point out one other thing:

                                          There is currently a FEDERAL LAW/BAN on marijuana. Yet the DOJ under the Obama administration ordered its agency to not execute the law. That was grounds for immediate impeachment on very obvious, legal terms and assumptions. Yet this PASPA law, never made any sense to begin with, was constantly rejected at lower courts? It shows you that in law, very little sense takes place.

                                          I'm glad that this finally was a victory for Constitutional integrity. As usual for all issues, the debate on whether it is good for society or a state is totally irrelevant to the Constitution and what it says about the issue. That, as stated in the Constitution, should be left to the states, or the people as in the tenth amendment:

                                          X.
                                          "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
                                          Last edited by StackinGreen; 05-14-18, 10:30 AM.
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                                          • DOM_Toretto
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-28-13
                                            • 9035

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by MMANick
                                            Yes! Please allow it in Michigan. We have 3 fukking Casinos right downtown.
                                            Michigan already proposed a bill which would allow all casino licenses to offer wagers on sports. Hope it gets passed soon!
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                                            • katstale
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-07-07
                                              • 3924

                                              #127
                                              Here we goooooooo will keep my dual status, but at least soon I won't be paranoid abt flying to States. Liquidity X government greed will benefit/open up offshore. Some of the offshore made nice with USA DOJ in the event this day would come. Party tonight
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                                              • hawkeye 16
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-07-17
                                                • 3553

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by slambam
                                                Are you in Iowa? I've heard from local casinos that they'll optimistic it'll get passed, and if/when it is passed, the setup plans to accept bets are already made. One of the local casinos here is owned by a Vegas chain, so I wouldn't think it'd take much to get them started.
                                                Yeah, I'm in Iowa. I think it will get passed pretty quickly. The current govt is really looking for $. I'm about an hour or so from any casino. Lots of casinos in Iowa though. You can never have too many outs. I might have to move across the street from one of them Hopefully they do mobile. It's just to early to tell. One thing I do know, is that I'm not going to lay -110 when I can get -105.

                                                I just hope this doesn't make it harder to bet offshore, although I haven't been doing too much of that lately. My local is the one that is going to get screwed.
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                                                • alling
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-13-10
                                                  • 1405

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                  People keep talking about this but this is so far removed from what the ruling is. Is it theoretical? Yes. But it requires very strict laws that vary BY STATE.

                                                  I'm not sure why this got to be a talking point on the radio this AM. Most sports shows know even less than I ever thought about sports ... and particularly sports wagering.
                                                  Read somewhere the feds will jump in make it legal throughout the country.
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                                                  • pimike
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 03-23-08
                                                    • 37139

                                                    #130
                                                    Bring it on!!
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                                                    • thetrinity
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-25-11
                                                      • 22430

                                                      #131
                                                      If you have a state that allows online poker, you will see this on your computer fairly soon (end of decade at least). If you have a state with brick and mortar casinos, they will have sports books within a few years. Laws still signed passed etc. So it will take time. Only NJ and DE will be this year IMO.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #132
                                                        Only happening in Jersey.. Calm down people.. Baby steps.. I don't live in Jersey and most of you clowns don't either..


                                                        SCOTUS impacts on sports betting

                                                        The real-world applications of the verdict:

                                                        New Jersey can now move forward with its plans to legalize wagering. Some gaming facilities in the state have indicated it could be just a matter of weeks until sportsbooks are operations.

                                                        West Virginia sports betting and Mississippi sports betting are also prepared to move forward with laws on the books.

                                                        So can Pennsylvania, which legalized sports wagering in 2017. A PA sports betting rollout there is up in the air, but could come later this year.

                                                        Sports betting legislation advancing in a number of states can take effect immediately upon passage.
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                                                        • ikid2groove415
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-08-18
                                                          • 11981

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Only happening in Jersey.. Calm down people.. Baby steps.. I don't live in Jersey and most of you clowns don't either..


                                                          SCOTUS impacts on sports betting

                                                          The real-world applications of the verdict:

                                                          New Jersey can now move forward with its plans to legalize wagering. Some gaming facilities in the state have indicated it could be just a matter of weeks until sportsbooks are operations.

                                                          West Virginia sports betting and Mississippi sports betting are also prepared to move forward with laws on the books.

                                                          So can Pennsylvania, which legalized sports wagering in 2017. A PA sports betting rollout there is up in the air, but could come later this year.

                                                          Sports betting legislation advancing in a number of states can take effect immediately upon passage.
                                                          Jibbs it’s going happen everywhere - EASY MONEY FOR STATES
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                                                          • DwightShrute
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-17-09
                                                            • 103131

                                                            #134
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                                                            • thetrinity
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-25-11
                                                              • 22430

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                              Jibbs it’s going happen everywhere - EASY MONEY FOR STATES
                                                              Not true. Utah Texas Alabama etc
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                                                              • ikid2groove415
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-08-18
                                                                • 11981

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                                Not true. Utah Texas Alabama etc
                                                                Don’t wanna be cruel but Alabama is also knowing as the DUMBEST STATE in America
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                                                                • tripled83
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 11-07-11
                                                                  • 203

                                                                  #137
                                                                  A victory for personal freedom!
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                                                                  • tripled83
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-07-11
                                                                    • 203

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                    Don’t wanna be cruel but Alabama is also knowing as the DUMBEST STATE in America
                                                                    West Virginia!
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                                                                    • Ebumdude
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-15-12
                                                                      • 2189

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                      Don’t wanna be cruel but Alabama is also knowing as the DUMBEST STATE in America
                                                                      Lmao. One of the most accurate statements I’ve ever read on here.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388179

                                                                        #140
                                                                        everyone fired up

                                                                        Trump got this through
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