Supreme Court Approves State Sports Betting

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  • LT Profits
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    • 10-27-06
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    #36
    Originally posted by alling
    Offshore yes.
    Most will still lay -105 offshore vs. -110 legally.
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    • hubie69
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      • 09-16-10
      • 7329

      #37
      I think there's very much so a place for online books to grow. The taxes on this alone will likely not put lines at the standard 110 (imho), this will allow online books to offer less juiced lines. I think also people not necessarily wanting to pay local taxes will allow the online books to thrive (NOTE: Always pay your taxes)
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #38
        Originally posted by mpaschal34
        I’ll be 99 before by the time Texas allows a bet to be placed.
        yah florida will be slow to the table as well
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        • ikid2groove415
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-08-18
          • 11981

          #39
          Originally posted by Microphone
          I think the opposite ikid. Remember this is convenient and legal. It doesn't mean well run. Remember it's our local and federal government at the helm.
          Either way it’s stealing business- definitely not good news for online books
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          • hubie69
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-10
            • 7329

            #40
            Even if my state doesn't offer this, I'm a short hop from multiple borders in my state.
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            • daneblazer
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-14-08
              • 27861

              #41
              Anything sharp to invest in? Too bad I can’t invest in gamblers anonymous
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              • ikid2groove415
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                • 01-08-18
                • 11981

                #42
                I’m speaking more of the offshore books fellas - they will be extinct -
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                • franklee168
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                  • 03-06-11
                  • 5544

                  #43
                  Loan sharking back in business!
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                  • Hman
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-04-17
                    • 21429

                    #44
                    To all the states who DIDN'T stand side by side with New Jersey in this fight:

                    I say piss off & dont come trying to use the law to your advantage now.
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                    • Ebumdude
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-12
                      • 2189

                      #45
                      New Jersey Sports betting won the battle in Federal Courts

                      WASHINGTON -- New Jersey won a landmark ruling from the Supreme Court Monday that could lead many states to legalize betting on college and professional sports.
                      The justices ruled 7-2 that a 25-year-old federal law that has effectively prohibited sports betting outside Nevada cannot block states such as New Jersey that want to set up sports books. The ruling could set the stage for other states to expand legalized gambling as a source of government revenue.


                      Justice Samuel Alito, a New Jersey native, wrote the court's opinion in the case. Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
                      It was a victory for the state's recently departed governor, Chris Christie, who had challenged the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, passed by Congress in 1992 to preserve the integrity of the nation's most popular sports.
                      It was a defeat for the National Collegiate Athletic Association and the four major professional sports leagues -- baseball, football, basketball and hockey -- that had successfully blocked New Jersey in lower courts.
                      The court's action could jump-start action in Congress to pass legislation calling for federal regulation of sports betting -- something the sports leagues would prefer over separate rules from state to state.
                      Congress passed the 1992 law to preserve what lawmakers at the time felt was the integrity of the games. But New Jersey and its allies argued that it ran afoul of the 10th Amendment, which reserves for the states all powers not delegated to the federal government.
                      Christie, who left office in January, signed the state's first law legalizing sports betting in 2012 after voters in 2011 overwhelmingly approved an amendment to the state Constitution to allow it.
                      That law was overturned by federal district and appeals courts, but the state tried again in 2014 with a law that stopped short of legalization but repealed the prohibition against running a sports books at tracks and casinos. That also was rejected at the trial and appellate levels, but the Supreme Court agreed last June to hear the case.

                      What has made the law anachronistic is the advent and rapid growth of Internet gambling. Rather than stopping sports betting, it helped push more of it underground, creating a $150 billion annual industry. That dwarfs the $5 billion bet in Nevada, the lone state with a legal sports book that preceded the federal law.
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                      • Hman
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                        • 11-04-17
                        • 21429

                        #46
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        yah florida will be slow to the table as well


                        Yeah unfortunately states like ours which cater to the tribes will continue to do without gor some time.
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                        • convick
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-03-11
                          • 3954

                          #47
                          Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                          I’m speaking more of the offshore books fellas - they will be extinct -
                          Ok, if you say so kid.

                          I don't think so, let's revisit this in a year.
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                          • ikid2groove415
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-08-18
                            • 11981

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Hman
                            To all the states who DIDN'T stand side by side with New Jersey in this fight:

                            I say piss off & dont come trying to use the law to your advantage now.
                            I definitely know California will legalize sports betting - can’t be any worst then marijuana
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                            • hubie69
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                              • 09-16-10
                              • 7329

                              #49
                              This is a big win especially for offshore and moreso the people who have both options. I think you'll see offshore drop a lot of their fees and juice, competition is a very good thing.
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Hman
                                Yeah unfortunately states like ours which cater to the tribes will continue to do without gor some time.
                                i figured the tracks would have slots by now, i just see how bad the medical marijuana layout has been and with the conservative florida congress no way we are getting sports betting in the next 10 years
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                                • cincinnatikid513
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-23-17
                                  • 45360

                                  #51
                                  how's it going to be with taxes who wants to go and place a 550 to win 500 bet and get a tax paper to go along with your winnings
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                                  • BriGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-06-11
                                    • 1556

                                    #52
                                    It's about time. I've been saying for *years* how this law is unconstitutional. Finally nice to have a court agree with me.
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                                    • Balco10
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                                      • 09-11-10
                                      • 5478

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                      Passed 7-2

                                      Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
                                      Liberalism is a mental disorder
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                                      • BriGuy
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-06-11
                                        • 1556

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                        how's it going to be with taxes who wants to go and place a 550 to win 500 bet and get a tax paper to go along with your winnings
                                        If I place a $500 bet on blackjack and win, they don't give me tax papers to fill out. I don't see why sports gambling would be any different.
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                                        • jjgold
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                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #55
                                          They will need phone apps or it’s a recipe to fail and that’ll take a process

                                          New Jersey only will have a few places to gamble and Maddie are not going to go if you add in tolls and gas unless like I said they get phone apps
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                                          • ikid2groove415
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-08-18
                                            • 11981

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                            how's it going to be with taxes who wants to go and place a 550 to win 500 bet and get a tax paper to go along with your winnings
                                            Wesley snipes LOL
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                                            • alling
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-13-10
                                              • 1405

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                              Most will still lay -105 offshore vs. -110 legally.
                                              No one knows right now what the odds will be. Payment is also a big issue. Lots of offshore books are scams or slow pay. They will go under for sure. Also Bet365, Pinnacle etc will get back in which will affect the current Books that accept US. If odds are the same US books will clean up. One thing is for sure. Between Eric Schneiderman AG of NY stopping DFS and the two ultra liberals voting against NJ pretty clear which party is anti gambling. Vote In November.
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                                              • hubie69
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-10
                                                • 7329

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                how's it going to be with taxes who wants to go and place a 550 to win 500 bet and get a tax paper to go along with your winnings
                                                Well.....In theory you might have to pay taxes on it now with offshore if it's a bit more than 550/500.
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                                                • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                                                  • 06-20-09
                                                  • 2560

                                                  #59
                                                  woooooooooooooo!

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                                                  • BriGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-06-11
                                                    • 1556

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Hman
                                                    In your face Roger Goodell
                                                    I hate the f*cker. The leagues fought tooth and nail to oppose NJ's move to legalize sports gambling. (They first fought Delaware and won, but NJ didn't back down)

                                                    Now those a$$holes want a piece of the action. If I was any state legislature, I would tell them to go screw.
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                                                    • convick
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-03-11
                                                      • 3954

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by alling
                                                      No one knows right now what the odds will be. Payment is also a big issue. Lots of offshore books are scams or slow pay. They will go under for sure. Also Bet365, Pinnacle etc will get back in which will affect the current Books that accept US. If odds are the same US books will clean up. One thing is for sure. Between Eric Schneiderman AG of NY stopping DFS and the two ultra liberals voting against NJ pretty clear which party is anti gambling. Vote In November.
                                                      If conservatives are such great people, why didn't they allow legal gambling 10-15 years ago? For all states?
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                                                      • cincinnatikid513
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-23-17
                                                        • 45360

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                        If I place a $500 bet on blackjack and win, they don't give me tax papers to fill out. I don't see why sports gambling would be any different.
                                                        maybe the limits will be higher i know with the dogs and horses it used to be anything won over 599 but they changed that recently thank goodness
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                                                        • BriGuy
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                                                          • 12-06-11
                                                          • 1556

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by hubie69
                                                          It's unreal to me, I never thought I would see this day....Watch congress attempt to fsck this up
                                                          Congress isn't going to do anything. Too many states want this, and even the states who don't want it don't care if others do.

                                                          Quite honestly, I am surprised we never saw a legislative solution to this problem and that we had to rely on SCOTUS.
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                                                          • alling
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-13-10
                                                            • 1405

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                            Anything sharp to invest in? Too bad I can’t invest in gamblers anonymous
                                                            Casino stocks up big today
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                                                            • BriGuy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-06-11
                                                              • 1556

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen
                                                              I don't see why you think offshore will grow. The ESPN article on this predicts 32 states will have legalized betting within 5 years. Who is going to go through the nuisance of going offshore when you can just go 45 minutes down the highway? Heck, some of these states will no doubt allow mobile betting from within state borders.
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                                                              • hubie69
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                                                                • 09-16-10
                                                                • 7329

                                                                #66
                                                                Never thought I would see the day that this guy is a hero for all of us:

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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Will Injun Casinos be autonomous and decide on their own ?

                                                                  Will be a BOOM for them
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                                                                  • thetrinity
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                                                                    • 01-25-11
                                                                    • 22430

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I have mixed emotions, but it's nice to see the door is wide open in Pennsylvania
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                                                                    • Hman
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-04-17
                                                                      • 21429

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                      I hate the f*cker. The leagues fought tooth and nail to oppose NJ's move to legalize sports gambling. (They first fought Delaware and won, but NJ didn't back down)

                                                                      Now those a$$holes want a piece of the action. If I was any state legislature, I would tell them to go screw.


                                                                      That's just it

                                                                      The leagues feared they would lose & tried to sucker States into agreeing to compensate them beforehand.

                                                                      No reason states should give them a dime now.
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                                                                      • alling
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-13-10
                                                                        • 1405

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by convick
                                                                        If conservatives are such great people, why didn't they allow legal gambling 10-15 years ago? For all states?
                                                                        These are the indisputable facts:
                                                                        Passed 7-2

                                                                        Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented.
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