Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

[chico2663]

dude you think 4% is great? We were getting between 8 and 10 % in a savings acct if you had over 10,000 balance. The life insurance companies were giving 5% on while life policies.

[chico2663]

Money Market Interest Rates and Mortgage Rates, 1980–2002

Federal funds, effective rate	13.35%	5.83%
Prime rate charged by banks	15.26	8.83
Discount rate 1	11.77	5.21
Eurodollar deposits, 3-month	14.00	5.93

[chico2663]

now if you had money they would give you more. especially credit unions. i was in champ? that was military credit union and paid even more.

[guitarjosh]

talking about poppa.
S&P 500 in the first 678 trading days of each presidency

Ronald Reagan
+29%

George H.W. Bush
+35%

Bill Clinton
+34%

George W. Bush
-23%

Barack Obama
+44%

Donald Trump
+31%

josh learn to read a graph. his gains were in 2003. in 2004 it was only up around 4 %.In 2003 he did a tax cut and businesses bought back their stock. Just like trump did. Bush was called the jobs act. Please do some due diligence before making another dumb ass statement. Just because your parents told you something people that worked and paid taxes at that time can tell you better. AND NO YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN!

Unreal. You claim you're talking about HW Bush, then bring up W. Bush.

[guitarjosh]

dude you think 4% is great? We were getting between 8 and 10 % in a savings acct if you had over 10,000 balance. The life insurance companies were giving 5% on while life policies.

Dude, stay on topic. Your claim was that the stock market in 1992, "Shit the bed". Not only did it not crash, it was up over 4% and near an all time high on election day. Stop bringing up what happened in 2003, stop talking about W. Just admit you're wrong and move on.

[chico2663]

i'm not wrong. you are bragging about 4%. i told you his gains were the year before on his tax cuts but the next year he had a shitty 4% gain when you could get better than that on passbook savings. You wouldn't know because you were in grade school.

[chico2663]

at first we were talking about poppa. than you said w. i showed you where he was down 23% in his 2nd year. He did a bull shit tax cut to make it seem like he did something. That the only thing he had to lay his head on was home ownership. That he not slick willie was the problem when shit hit the fan and he changed to way repoes were done on houses switching it from 120 days to repoe to in not going into foreclosure until after a year.

[chico2663]

[guitarjosh]

i'm not wrong. you are bragging about 4%. i told you his gains were the year before on his tax cuts but the next year he had a shitty 4% gain when you could get better than that on passbook savings. You wouldn't know because you were in grade school.

Here's what I said:

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

That's correct. You claimed that:

wrong. he was the best for first 32 months but stocks shit the bed his last year.

The market was near all time highs near election day and it was up around 50% from when he took over. It did not "Shit the bed" during year 4. I'm not bragging about 4%, I'm sticking with my correct claim that the S&P 500 was near ATH on election day and had gone up nearly 50% from 1-20-1989 - 11-03-1992.

[guitarjosh]

at first we were talking about poppa. than you said w. i showed you where he was down 23% in his 2nd year. He did a bull shit tax cut to make it seem like he did something. That the only thing he had to lay his head on was home ownership. That he not slick willie was the problem when shit hit the fan and he changed to way repoes were done on houses switching it from 120 days to repoe to in not going into foreclosure until after a year.

I never brought up W. If you think I did, show me the post.

[chico2663]

Originally Posted by chico2663
made 500 first week of trading. going backwards ever since.. trump and reagan are only 2 repubs pres stock market did alright with. Always better with dem.

drunken horse player replied to me
---------------------------------------------- I believe the markets did very well during the Bush I administration.
--------------------------------------------------------------- he had a good 1st and 3 yr.But if you remember in oct or nov of 1990 shit hit the fan and the yr ended of minus 4+. To be honest trump's economy is eerily like poppa bush.
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To be honest someone like kid cudi may remember better than i.
^^^^i replied to drunken horse player

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poppa had the best 630 days of any president in the stock market. We were using qe and money was cheap under poppa just like trump. I still believe clinton captured all of the goodness of poppa bush. We are fukking the kurds just like clinton did.

^^^^^^^


i replied again to drunken horse player

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W is Bush II, HW is Bush I.
^^^^^^drunken horse player replied to homie


Originally Posted by homie1975
"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.
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i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.


It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day ^^^^^
THIS IS YOU


you reply as you usually do saying something stupid. We were talking about poppa bush but instead of reading the whole conversation you assumed we were talking about w when we were talking about poppa.
You replied talking about the son when the converation was the father. You always change the tangent of what we are talking about to start an argument. You seem like a good kid and you do seem intelligent. But you are awfully annoying by taking shit in a different direction.
See where you went wrong? Yes you were wrong because we weren't talking w...WE WERE TALKING POPPA!

[chico2663]

in post 2325 and 2329 homie is talking poppa bush. But instead of reading you wanted to show us how smart you are. Reminds me of a girl i used to date whose cocker spaniel always wanted to hump my leg.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by chico2663
made 500 first week of trading. going backwards ever since.. trump and reagan are only 2 repubs pres stock market did alright with. Always better with dem.

drunken horse player replied to me
---------------------------------------------- I believe the markets did very well during the Bush I administration.
--------------------------------------------------------------- he had a good 1st and 3 yr.But if you remember in oct or nov of 1990 shit hit the fan and the yr ended of minus 4+. To be honest trump's economy is eerily like poppa bush.
----------------------------------------------------
To be honest someone like kid cudi may remember better than i.
^^^^i replied to drunken horse player

---------------------------------------------------

poppa had the best 630 days of any president in the stock market. We were using qe and money was cheap under poppa just like trump. I still believe clinton captured all of the goodness of poppa bush. We are fukking the kurds just like clinton did.

^^^^^^^


i replied again to drunken horse player

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W is Bush II, HW is Bush I.
^^^^^^drunken horse player replied to homie


Originally Posted by homie1975
"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.
-----------------------------------------------------
i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.


It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day ^^^^^
THIS IS YOU


you reply as you usually do saying something stupid. We were talking about poppa bush but instead of reading the whole conversation you assumed we were talking about w when we were talking about poppa.
You replied talking about the son when the converation was the father. You always change the tangent of what we are talking about to start an argument. You seem like a good kid and you do seem intelligent. But you are awfully annoying by taking shit in a different direction.
See where you went wrong? Yes you were wrong because we weren't talking w...WE WERE TALKING POPPA!

No I didn't, but if you insist, show me the post where I talked about W.

[guitarjosh]

The problem is that you have horrible reading comprehension. Homie was talking about HW Bush and he said

"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.
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i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.

Clearly he was talking about HW Bush in 1992. I replied that

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

Again, I never brought up W. Look on the previous page, almost every post I made was had 1989 or 1992 in it. The S&P 500 on election day 2008 was nowhere near an all time high.

[guitarjosh]

Originally Posted by homie1975
"read my lips....no new taxes" killed HW when he went against Bubba Clittin'.
-----------------------------------------------------
i don't believe the S&P did too well under him either.

It was up around 50% and was near all time highs on election day

I was replying to homie's post above, about the 1992 election

We had a mild recession in 1990, and unemployment tends to peak 2 - 2.5 years after the recession starts, which was right around election day 1992.

Again, talking about 1992 and 1990, not W.

S&P 500 from 1-20-1989 until election day 1992.

Again, HW Bush, along with a chart of the S&P 500 during the bolded period.

Me too, the guy who became president 1-20-1989 and lost the election on 11-3-1992. Election day closed down 1.5% from the all time high.

Again, HW Bush

That doesn't contradict anything I say. I'm claiming that the S&P 500 was within 2% of an all time high on election day 1992, and you're claiming it's not. The chart I posted says I'm right, as usual.

HW B again

Yes, his 2nd year was down, his 4th year the market was at an all time high. Election day was less than 2% from the ATH.

This was the only post I made on the previous page not directly referencing HW B's term, but not referencing anyone else's term either.

Thanks for proving my point. 1992 the DJIA finished higher by over 4% and hit the all time high.

Again, referencing HW B.

There was no reference to W, quit trying to change the subject.

[homie1975]

Two recent presidents who inherited markets at extreme lows with nowhere to go but up: HW Bush and Obama

Market probably went up in spite of them. My guess.

[homie1975]

Josh
in fairness, please post Obama's chart from election day 2008 (or inauguration day 2009 if you want) through election day 2016 (or inauguration day 2017) and see how that one looks. pretty damn impressive i reckon. however, i believe the market went up in spite of obama, not because of him. same with HW

both guys inherited down markets, extremely down.

[chico2663]

josh thinks it is his driving skills because in his corvette he can out run a 87 beetle bug.

[chico2663]

Josh
in fairness, please post Obama's chart from election day 2008 (or inauguration day 2009 if you want) through election day 2016 (or inauguration day 2017) and see how that one looks. pretty damn impressive i reckon. however, i believe the market went up in spite of obama, not because of him. same with HW


ibm shit the bed today.

both guys inherited down markets, extremely down.

ibm shit the bed today

[guitarjosh]

Josh
in fairness, please post Obama's chart from election day 2008 (or inauguration day 2009 if you want) through election day 2016 (or inauguration day 2017) and see how that one looks. pretty damn impressive i reckon. however, i believe the market went up in spite of obama, not because of him. same with HW

both guys inherited down markets, extremely down.

Obama had record low interest rates and multiple rounds of QE, HWB had double digit interest rates

[homie1975]

Josh
I guess what it comes down to is that when the market goes up under a DEM prez it's in spite of them but when it's GOP it's because of them.

Hopefully in my lifetime a Third party will win and we can see what happens.

[guitarjosh]

Josh
I guess what it comes down to is that when the market goes up under a DEM prez it's in spite of them but when it's GOP it's because of them.

Hopefully in my lifetime a Third party will win and we can see what happens.

Interest rate tend to be higher under GOP presidents.

[homie1975]

Caterpillar missed and Boeing shittt the bed horribly.

Down down goes the DOW and will drag others down w it

[chico2663]

p&g has good day yesterday. semi conductor market shaky. bought cl but think they are going to be down. Earning come out nov 1 and lost 2 bucks a share so far.

[RoyBacon]

Dow -20, BA is UP $3

Market is in a holding pattern.

[homie1975]

Dow -20, BA is UP $3

Market is in a holding pattern.

Long time, no see, no hear, no nuthin, ROYer

great to see you posting again......

[RoyBacon]

Long time, no see, no hear, no nuthin, ROYer

great to see you posting again......

How about STWD nearing $25?

[chico2663]

Flipped some geo this week b4 dividend. Got to love those prison reits

[homie1975]

Royer I sold it! Held for 2 quarters but got impatient w the slow drip. Great hold though. Maybe i should go back lol

[homie1975]

Flipped some geo this week b4 dividend. Got to love those prison reits

Nice.

[chico2663]

Tesla up big

[homie1975]

Big miss by AMZN and weak guidance

[chico2663]

roy swks up 4 bucks a share today. Originally bought at 80.56 and it closed today at 95.00. roy get on the 5 train

[RoyBacon]

roy swks up 4 bucks a share today. Originally bought at 80.56 and it closed today at 95.00. roy get on the 5 train

Yeaaaa...UP $4 in after. Sweet move.

Mi amigo I don't do chips, semi's, amat's, dram, ram, ect. The tech changes too fast and big oem's know who is going up/down. We don't.

[chico2663]

Yeaaaa...UP $4 in after. Sweet move.

Mi amigo I don't do chips, semi's, amat's, dram, ram, ect. The tech changes too fast and big oem's know who is going up/down. We don't.

We know you do chips...maybe Pringle’s,ruffles or frito lay. Roy guy who invented Pringle’s daughter was after me in college but got drunk and nailed her room mate. Boy did I funk up. We could of been boys.