Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

[RoyBacon]

Hard to imagine a 200 point turn around on such a benign tweet.

Just a little over sold. But I bet the sellers will be back. The NO china deal is not priced in and neither is a potential Iran- Saudi tit-for-tat.

[thomorino]

Growth is slowing, the economy has been very strong the last couple years, an at least partial slowdown is inevitable, the China narrative is too simple, the tariffs have been in place for a while, I think the market likely continues to trend lower near-term

[Shev2]

We often get promising remarks on trade talks from the Administration, but China really pulled back this time and now they're getting punished.

After the most recent tariff announcement from Trump, traders didn’t know whether to price in a long term trade war that goes beyond 2020 or something that will be resolved in the short term. Given that, it looks like before yesterday the markets had prices in more of a scenario that is a drawn out long trade war. What the most recent promising remarks should do is keep us in the green today. Right now the market appears to have been priced for a longer trade war and given the remarks overnight we should see traders move their target for a more short term trade dispute rather than a long term full blown trade war. As a result, green at open and for most if not all of the day. Wouldn’t be surprised to turn red again quickly, given how much speculation around a trade war is being considered when pricing today’s market.

[Shev2]

Looks like futures were red for most of the night with moments of small gains. This market does not know how to trade given the recent tariffs. It’s looking for any reason to moon or tank. Volatility has to be the play here but the key is getting in at the right price. I’m thinking about trying to start a volatility play close to market open on Wednesday. Probably a leveraged ETF looking for 2x on VIX will try to enter early Wednesday morning or possibly not at all because the futures look like the classic bear trap. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the market trade down early but end the day slightly positive. But then again, what do I know?

[Shev2]

Ended up buying TCS as an earnings play at 8.52. The stock is up a few pennies on the day, but they aren't reporting until tomorrow after close.

TCS popped on an earnings beat. Easy 10%+

[RoyBacon]

BABA with a solid report.

The most under valued large cap stock in history? Revenue up an eye popping 51%.

[d2bets]

BABA with a solid report.

The most under valued large cap stock in history? Revenue up an eye popping 51%.

Pretty tepid market response.

[RoyBacon]

Pretty tepid market response.

I bought more at $175 and sold some covered calls.

BABA and BIDU are being whipsawed with the trade war. They remind me of AMZN and GOOG with respect to their earnings engine. But it will not be smooth sailing. It has to be a fall on your sword investment and just hold.

[d2bets]

I bought more at $175 and sold some covered calls.

BABA and BIDU are being whipsawed with the trade war. They remind me of AMZN and GOOG with respect to their earnings engine. But it will not be smooth sailing. It has to be a fall on your sword investment and just hold.

I actually did luckily sell my personal AABA holding a couple weeks ago at the very top - very lucky. Trying to decide whether to dip back in either that way or through BABA long-term in a retirement account.

BIDU has really taken some hits. Is it too early here?

[RoyBacon]

I actually did luckily sell my personal AABA holding a couple weeks ago at the very top - very lucky. Trying to decide whether to dip back in either that way or through BABA long-term in a retirement account.

BIDU has really taken some hits. Is it too early here?

I got called out of BABA $10 higher last month...got lucky too.

BIDU I think drops their earnings today or tomorrow. So I would wait or if you are feeling froggy buy half or less.

Both BIDU and BABA are on earnings rocket ships. Take BIDU, looking for $91 in earnings in '21. That's a $160 stock that will be adding nearly a $100 a share to their book value yearly in a couple of years. Slap a 5x on that and you got a $500 stock in a few years.

But if it were just that easy...there is substantial currency risks and the gov pulls BIDU strings too with all kinds of censorship/restrictions.

[Shev2]

Looks like futures were red for most of the night with moments of small gains. This market does not know how to trade given the recent tariffs. It’s looking for any reason to moon or tank. Volatility has to be the play here but the key is getting in at the right price. I’m thinking about trying to start a volatility play close to market open on Wednesday. Probably a leveraged ETF looking for 2x on VIX will try to enter early Wednesday morning or possibly not at all because the futures look like the classic bear trap. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the market trade down early but end the day slightly positive. But then again, what do I know?

Bought 1.5x VIX short term near market close today

[eaglesfan371]

Which would you select for $15k account, Robinhood or Interactive Brokers. Traded previously with IB and had no issues.

Does Robinhood charge an unknown spread fee when you buy/sell. For example they might list bid ask for a stock at $100/$100.10 whereas IB / market has $100.04/$100.06? Is that how they make money?

I have read they receive rebates from the market makers, which I am somewhat confused by. Generally this is not much margin there, pennies if that, why/how are they receiving rebates?

I understand the "they make interest on balances" along with subscriptions but not the other income generation by them.

I heard they offer Options now. Do they offer Eminis with easy to input stop losses? I did well timing ES longs 5-10 pts by predicting bounces off oversold moments using bollinger bands and a couple other indicators previously when in confirmed bull trend. Only made a few thousand but did show a small alpha.

Not a day trader by any means but looking to do a little bit of trading ES (1 contract) along with some long term investments.

Thanks for the feedback for any who answer.

[Shev2]

Which would you select for $15k account, Robinhood or Interactive Brokers. Traded previously with IB and had no issues.

Does Robinhood charge an unknown spread fee when you buy/sell. For example they might list bid ask for a stock at $100/$100.10 whereas IB / market has $100.04/$100.06? Is that how they make money?

I have read they receive rebates from the market makers, which I am somewhat confused by. Generally this is not much margin there, pennies if that, why/how are they receiving rebates?

I understand the "they make interest on balances" along with subscriptions but not the other income generation by them.

I heard they offer Options now. Do they offer Eminis with easy to input stop losses? I did well timing ES longs 5-10 pts by predicting bounces off oversold moments using bollinger bands and a couple other indicators previously when in confirmed bull trend. Only made a few thousand but did show a small alpha.

Not a day trader by any means but looking to do a little bit of trading ES (1 contract) along with some long term investments.

Thanks for the feedback for any who answer.

I use Robinhood. Have used Fidelity. Never used IB. If you've had no issues with IB why are you looking to switch?

Robinhood is super easy, convenient, and then obviously fee free. That's why I use it, but only for my swing trades, not for my long term value plays.

[d2bets]

I got called out of BABA $10 higher last month...got lucky too.

BIDU I think drops their earnings today or tomorrow. So I would wait or if you are feeling froggy buy half or less.

Both BIDU and BABA are on earnings rocket ships. Take BIDU, looking for $91 in earnings in '21. That's a $160 stock that will be adding nearly a $100 a share to their book value yearly in a couple of years. Slap a 5x on that and you got a $500 stock in a few years.

But if it were just that easy...there is substantial currency risks and the gov pulls BIDU strings too with all kinds of censorship/restrictions.

Wow, look at BIDU today, down 15%, on a quarterly loss.

[Shev2]

Futures have been indicating a slightly green open for the past few hours...(between +.20% and .50% approx on the Nasdaq). Oil has been up the past few hours too. China has been trading red since the start of their session but they've seen gains within the last hour. Definitely potential for Chinese markets to close with small gains if the momentum continues overnight. The rest of Asia is trading green pretty much. Will keep an eye on these into the night and as the market opens here in the US tomorrow morning. Will also watch Europe too. Hoping to see slightly green futures throughout the night and markets worldwide to show gains across the board, even if small. Probably won't happen, but that'd be nice.

[Shev2]

Interesting to compare Nasdaq futures trading right now to the Shanghai Composite. Here's a look at each:

[RoyBacon]

Wow, look at BIDU today, down 15%, on a quarterly loss.

Bought some BIDU at 125.50 this AM. Already $124. BABA down $5 today might nibble on that one too.

[kidcudi92]

Tesla hehe

[homie1975]

Bought some BIDU at 125.50 this AM. Already $124. BABA down $5 today might nibble on that one too.

ROYer good luck. I dumped that fugger at 171ish I think. Got lucky. Picked up more QQQ. not lucky there!

[Shev2]

ROYer good luck. I dumped that fugger at 171ish I think. Got lucky. Picked up more QQQ. not lucky there!

QQQ at a good price right now for a value investor IMO. Thinking about scooping some for my Roth. Long term play.

[homie1975]

QQQ at a good price right now for a value investor IMO. Thinking about scooping some for my Roth. Long term play.

Yes. Great long term play. Second highest volume ETF behind SPY. trading at 6% off the recent all.time high of 191.30 or so

[d2bets]

BIDU 117's. Who's grabbing the falling knife?

[Goat Milk]

Chinese stocks aren't gonna do much for the next few years... The tariffs aren't going away. This is just getting started guys. It's been a long time coming. Long overdue. It's the only way we're going to cut this deficit. This war will never be over. You'll see small gains and losses until Trump is out. You're not gonna see any 20% jumps imo on these stocks.

[Shev2]

US futures were indicating a slightly positive open when trading began hours ago. China opened their trading session up, currently around +1.5% on the Shanghai Composite. As a result, US futures have edged further into the green, with the Nasdaq leading the way. Oil is slightly green, and VIX futures are down.

[homie1975]

BIDU 117's. Who's grabbing the falling knife?

Not me. Not anymore. There is something seriously wrong with that stock.

[RoyBacon]

BIDU 117's. Who's grabbing the falling knife?

I made a couple of buys on BIDU at $119 and $125 and BABA at $165. Just love a good sale!

I like BABA 2x more than BIDU. I'll sell calls against them while they are floundering.

[RoyBacon]

Hong Kong, May 21, 2019 -- Moody's Investors Service says that Baidu Inc.'s modest 1Q 2019 results will not immediately affect its A3 issuer and senior unsecured ratings, or the positive outlook.

"While Baidu's profit margins will weaken due to the company's investments in new strategic business initiatives over the next 6-12 months, we expect that its solid revenue and cash flow generation, supported by its leading market position, will remain intact," says Lina Choi, a Moody's Senior Vice President.
Moodys maintains A3 credit rating on BIDU

"We also expect Baidu will maintain a solid net cash position, which will provide it with a buffer against its ongoing investment needs," adds Choi, also Moody's lead analyst for Baidu.

[KVB]

Been busy with a number of Funds but have had SBR open while working, obviously.

Been lagging on some of these screens.

Here's the Top 20 decliners so far today with last trade over 5 and avg 5 day trading volume over 250,000...

Symbol	Last Trade	Change	% Change	Description
BYND	78.35	-7.74	-8.99
KSS	55.46	-7.45	-11.84	KOHL'S CORP
MNK	9.76	-3.27	-25.10	MALLINCKRODT PLC
UVXY	34.53	-2.83	-7.57	PROSHARES ULT VIX ST FUTU
IAC	229.90	-2.38	-1.03	IAC/INTERACTIVECORP
VAR	128.22	-2.29	-1.75	VARIAN MEDICAL SYSTEMS IN
TVIX	21.41	-2.14	-9.09	VELOCITYSHARES DAILY 2X V
LW	65.43	-2.11	-3.12	LAMB WESTON HOLDINGS INC
LABD	22.42	-2.02	-8.27	DIREXION DLY S&P BIOTEC B
JFIN	10.50	-2.01	-16.07	JIAYIN GROUP INC -ADR -RE
SAFM	147.08	-2.00	-1.34	SANDERSON FARMS INC
EDZ	51.20	-1.94	-3.65	DIREXION DAILY EMRG BEAR
INSM	26.17	-1.90	-6.77	INSMED INC
MKTX	291.77	-1.82	-0.62	MARKETAXESS HOLDINGS INC
YANG	55.05	-1.80	-3.17	DIREXION DAILY FTSE CHI B
WAT	206.47	-1.78	-0.85	WATERS CORP
MRCY	71.16	-1.70	-2.33	MERCURY SYSTEMS INC
GH	76.57	-1.70	-2.17	GUARDANT HEALTH INC
TSN	80.33	-1.54	-1.89	TYSON FOODS INC -CL A
JBHT	95.94	-1.54	-1.58	HUNT (JB) TRANSPRT SVCS I

[Shev2]

Been busy with a number of Funds but have had SBR open while working, obviously.

Been lagging on some of these screens.

Here's the Top 20 decliners so far today with last trade over 5 and avg 5 day trading volume over 250,000...

Symbol	Last Trade	Change	% Change	Description
BYND	78.35	-7.74	-8.99
KSS	55.46	-7.45	-11.84	KOHL'S CORP
MNK	9.76	-3.27	-25.10	MALLINCKRODT PLC
UVXY	34.53	-2.83	-7.57	PROSHARES ULT VIX ST FUTU
IAC	229.90	-2.38	-1.03	IAC/INTERACTIVECORP
VAR	128.22	-2.29	-1.75	VARIAN MEDICAL SYSTEMS IN
TVIX	21.41	-2.14	-9.09	VELOCITYSHARES DAILY 2X V
LW	65.43	-2.11	-3.12	LAMB WESTON HOLDINGS INC
LABD	22.42	-2.02	-8.27	DIREXION DLY S&P BIOTEC B
JFIN	10.50	-2.01	-16.07	JIAYIN GROUP INC -ADR -RE
SAFM	147.08	-2.00	-1.34	SANDERSON FARMS INC
EDZ	51.20	-1.94	-3.65	DIREXION DAILY EMRG BEAR
INSM	26.17	-1.90	-6.77	INSMED INC
MKTX	291.77	-1.82	-0.62	MARKETAXESS HOLDINGS INC
YANG	55.05	-1.80	-3.17	DIREXION DAILY FTSE CHI B
WAT	206.47	-1.78	-0.85	WATERS CORP
MRCY	71.16	-1.70	-2.33	MERCURY SYSTEMS INC
GH	76.57	-1.70	-2.17	GUARDANT HEALTH INC
TSN	80.33	-1.54	-1.89	TYSON FOODS INC -CL A
JBHT	95.94	-1.54	-1.58	HUNT (JB) TRANSPRT SVCS I

Sold my UVXY position yesterday for small gains. Have an open position with LABU (long biotech 3x) so it's nice to see LABD on this list (3x short biotech)

[HockeyRocks]

Looks like we could have the 5th consecutive market down week. This hasn't happened since 2011....Trumps BS is finally catching up to investors way of thinking...This market will go nowhere until a change comes to the WH and stability returns..

[astrobloke]

buy vol later in year....

Deutche bank will collapse, I have PUTS that are doing very very well $$$ (watch this one)

we will see market go down 25%+ in Fall season USA time... OCT or so...

Get ready....

ALso side wager, if banks start to get shaky knees I expect BTC -- Bitcoin -- to go to up nicely into XMAS 19"

Enjoy the show peeps....

[brooks85]

Looks like we could have the 5th consecutive market down week. This hasn't happened since 2011....Trumps BS is finally catching up to investors way of thinking...This market will go nowhere until a change comes to the WH and stability returns..

it's idiot like this that make the market so profitable for people with an IQ of at least 100. Thank you, sincerely.

[RoyBacon]

Looks like we could have the 5th consecutive market down week. This hasn't happened since 2011....Trumps BS is finally catching up to investors way of thinking...This market will go nowhere until a change comes to the WH and stability returns..

Uh huh... Tards are finally going to kick that football!! Go Charlie Brown! Go!

[astrobloke]

Looks like we could have the 5th consecutive market down week. This hasn't happened since 2011....Trumps BS is finally catching up to investors way of thinking...This market will go nowhere until a change comes to the WH and stability returns..

So much hatred in teh world....

i think trump is playing us all, and his plan has been 35 years in the making...

books will be written, arrests coming, and i give a TRUMP impeach about 1% chance of playing out......

Time will tell, you may laugh, but truths are stranger than fiction....

[HockeyRocks]

So much hatred in teh world....

i think trump is playing us all, and his plan has been 35 years in the making...

books will be written, arrests coming, and i give a TRUMP impeach about 1% chance of playing out......

Time will tell, you may laugh, but truths are stranger than fiction....

I posted factual information about the stock market and you call it hate.....WTF is wrong with you????