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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #1016
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    • RoyBacon
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 09-21-05
      • 37074

      #1017
      Originally posted by KVB
      TSLA is going to start to trade again.

      I am taking a hit on MORT but the volume is not too high.

      Roy, are we seeing a rotation of come kind? Will rate moves mess with MORT and USRT?



      I have them at good prices and enjoy a dividend, but I wonder if I should quit while I'm ahead.

      We didn't see a rate induced sell off. I wouldn't panic here. I bought some AGNC today and chico's favorite NRZ.

      Keep in mind these guys are all up. USRT I bought like a month ago for $47 and it's $50 today. STWD was at a 52 week high and it fell with the group. I'll buy more of that at $22 if it gets there.

      The new tax code is favorable to these guys and they are banging out 8%-11% on dividends quite easily. I'd be ready to buy more. The safer play is to play the dirt like USRT and STWD instead of the mortg kite'ers like AGNC and MORT in general.
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      • RoyBacon
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 09-21-05
        • 37074

        #1018
        Originally posted by guitarjosh
        TSLA shorts at open vs close



        I'm going to short TSLA calls in the AM.

        My strategy is a play that there is no fuggin way they raise that bid over $420. In reality TSLA is not worth anywhere close to that and there is going to be some infighting among those who are over paying that price.

        The trading now suggests there isn't going to be a bidding war. TSLA is at $380.

        On a side note I sold TSLA about $200 ago and congratulate anyone holding that high flyer.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #1019
          Thanks for chiming in Roy, I am very busy with sports.

          I need manage my time here, get back to markets.

          They have been floating during this time, thankfully.

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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #1020
            Originally posted by RoyBacon


            I'm going to short TSLA calls in the AM.

            My strategy is a play that there is no fuggin way they raise that bid over $420. In reality TSLA is not worth anywhere close to that and there is going to be some infighting among those who are over paying that price.

            The trading now suggests there isn't going to be a bidding war. TSLA is at $380.

            On a side note I sold TSLA about $200 ago and congratulate anyone holding that high flyer.
            Playing with Billionaire's.

            They have deep pockets and a generation of time.

            Fuk that.

            That said, I'm more tempted to short than ever.

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            • RoyBacon
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-21-05
              • 37074

              #1021
              KVB if you can short calls look at this play;

              TESLA INC COM JAN-19 $480.00 CALL
              Closed at a Bid $4 ask $6, so let's say you can get $5

              There is no way TSLA goes for $480 or north of that, just impossible imo. And don't let the Jan scare you. As this deal settles those distant options will lose all their premium.

              PS - I wouldn't short TSLA even at $380. I think they pull it off at $420.
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              • chico2663
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-02-10
                • 36915

                #1022
                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                We didn't see a rate induced sell off. I wouldn't panic here. I bought some AGNC today and chico's favorite NRZ.

                Keep in mind these guys are all up. USRT I bought like a month ago for $47 and it's $50 today. STWD was at a 52 week high and it fell with the group. I'll buy more of that at $22 if it gets there.

                The new tax code is favorable to these guys and they are banging out 8%-11% on dividends quite easily. I'd be ready to buy more. The safer play is to play the dirt like USRT and STWD instead of the mortg kite'ers like AGNC and MORT in general.
                sold nrz and sun today.
                I have bought pes at 2,2.50 and 3. I have sold them back at 6,5.90 and 5.50. Bought today at 3.30 and when it gets to 5.50 i will sell and get back into nrz. I not a baller like you but when i can make 1500 in a month it is what i love.
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                • chico2663
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-02-10
                  • 36915

                  #1023
                  pes has bought many drill ships off my uncle. They just bought 4 more so I'm hoping they will go up.
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                  • RoyBacon
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 09-21-05
                    • 37074

                    #1024
                    I'll never play that group again chico. Fugg em. Their cost is too high and they get killed when crude drops.

                    I bought ETE yesterday and today. Even after the merger they will trade a bit below book and that's a helluva a nice book of assets.

                    NRZ, STWD, AGNC are proven players. Buy all 3 and get a blended yield of 10% which compounds to 11.2%. Sell a few distant covered calls and end up with 15% a year. All good.
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                    • homie1975
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15453

                      #1025
                      Chico, Roy, KVB carrying us daily. Great stuff guys, thank you
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                      • chico2663
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-02-10
                        • 36915

                        #1026
                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                        We didn't see a rate induced sell off. I wouldn't panic here. I bought some AGNC today and chico's favorite NRZ.

                        Keep in mind these guys are all up. USRT I bought like a month ago for $47 and it's $50 today. STWD was at a 52 week high and it fell with the group. I'll buy more of that at $22 if it gets there.

                        The new tax code is favorable to these guys and they are banging out 8%-11% on dividends quite easily. I'd be ready to buy more. The safer play is to play the dirt like USRT and STWD instead of the mortg kite'ers like AGNC and MORT in general.
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                        • RoyBacon
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 09-21-05
                          • 37074

                          #1027
                          TSLA down $11 in the pre.

                          Thanks for the ETE article. I very much agree. It could take a year. ETE thinks they can get an A- rating from SnP. SnP has promised them a BBB- when the merger closes. So there will be no div increases until 2020 which is fine.
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                          • RoyBacon
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-21-05
                            • 37074

                            #1028
                            From Elon

                            I have to say, this is a very smart move on the surface.

                            Earlier today, I announced that I'm considering taking Tesla private at a price of $420/share. I wanted to let you know my rationale for this, and why I think this is the best path forward.

                            First, a final decision has not yet been made, but the reason for doing this is all about creating the environment for Tesla to operate best. As a public company, we are subject to wild swings in our stock price that can be a major distraction for everyone working at Tesla, all of whom are shareholders. Being public also subjects us to the quarterly earnings cycle that puts enormous pressure on Tesla to make decisions that may be right for a given quarter, but not necessarily right for the long-term. Finally, as the most shorted stock in the history of the stock market, being public means that there are large numbers of people who have the incentive to attack the company.

                            I fundamentally believe that we are at our best when everyone is focused on executing, when we can remain focused on our long-term mission, and when there are not perverse incentives for people to try to harm what we're all trying to achieve.

                            This is especially true for a company like Tesla that has a long-term, forward-looking mission. SpaceX is a perfect example: it is far more operationally efficient, and that is largely due to the fact that it is privately held. This is not to say that it will make sense for Tesla to be private over the long-term. In the future, once Tesla enters a phase of slower, more predictable growth, it will likely make sense to return to the public markets.

                            Here's what I envision being private would mean for all shareholders, including all of our employees.

                            First, I would like to structure this so that all shareholders have a choice. Either they can stay investors in a private Tesla or they can be bought out at $420 per share, which is a 20% premium over the stock price following our Q2 earnings call (which had already increased by 16%). My hope is for all shareholders to remain, but if they prefer to be bought out, then this would enable that to happen at a nice premium.

                            Second, my intention is for all Tesla employees to remain shareholders of the company, just as is the case at SpaceX. If we were to go private, employees would still be able to periodically sell their shares and exercise their options. This would enable you to still share in the growing value of the company that you have all worked so hard to build over time.

                            Third, the intention is not to merge SpaceX and Tesla. They would continue to have separate ownership and governance structures. However, the structure envisioned for Tesla is similar in many ways to the SpaceX structure: external shareholders and employee shareholders have an opportunity to sell or buy approximately every six months.

                            Finally, this has nothing to do with accumulating control for myself. I own about 20% of the company now, and I don't envision that being substantially different after any deal is completed.

                            Basically, I'm trying to accomplish an outcome where Tesla can operate at its best, free from as much distraction and short-term thinking as possible, and where there is as little change for all of our investors, including all of our employees, as possible.

                            This proposal to go private would ultimately be finalized through a vote of our shareholders. If the process ends the way I expect it will, a private Tesla would ultimately be an enormous opportunity for all of us. Either way, the future is very bright and we'll keep fighting to achieve our mission.

                            Thanks,

                            Elon
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                            • RoyBacon
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-21-05
                              • 37074

                              #1029
                              Bot a little TSLA in the pre betting it will rebound a little.
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                              • RoyBacon
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-21-05
                                • 37074

                                #1030
                                STWD on sale after agreeing to buy GE's energy financing division for $2.6 billion. STWD is trading down $1 at $21.50. GE is also trading lower.

                                I bought more at $21.42 and will buy more at $21.

                                STWD management is as sharp as they come. They are a $5.8B company buying a $2.6B company. I guarantee you they got a great deal.
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                                • homie1975
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-24-13
                                  • 15453

                                  #1031
                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                  TSLA shorts at open vs close


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                                  • homie1975
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-24-13
                                    • 15453

                                    #1032
                                    AMZN and Alphabet towing the entire 'DAQ up the hill, absolutely breathtaking to watch

                                    when will some of those PIGS start taking profits off the table?

                                    the time to do so is NOW !!!
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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #1033
                                      Top 20 decliners with last trade over 5 and avg. 5 day vol over 250,000.

                                      Symbol Last Trade Change % Change Description
                                      PEN 124.35 -24.20 -16.29 PENUMBRA INC
                                      REGN 372.74 -18.68 -4.77 REGENERON PHARMACEUTICALS
                                      BKNG 2,059.49 -18.49 -0.89 BOOKING HOLDINGS INC
                                      ZBRA 157.08 -9.54 -5.73 ZEBRA TECHNOLOGIES CP -C
                                      ATHM 86.14 -9.50 -9.93 AUTOHOME INC -ADR
                                      AAXN 58.13 -9.49 -14.03 AXON ENTERPRISE INC
                                      STMP 254.65 -8.80 -3.34 STAMPS.COM INC
                                      XEC 88.81 -8.53 -8.76 CIMAREX ENERGY CO
                                      BGNE 171.74 -7.70 -4.29 BEIGENE LTD -ADR
                                      LGND 239.39 -7.63 -3.09 LIGAND PHARMACEUTICAL INC
                                      COHR 180.51 -7.35 -3.91 COHERENT INC
                                      GVA 46.36 -6.62 -12.50 GRANITE CONSTRUCTION INC
                                      SUPN 47.00 -6.35 -11.90 SUPERNUS PHARMACEUTICALS
                                      TSLA 374.09 -5.48 -1.44 TESLA INC
                                      OILU 47.61 -5.38 -10.15 PROSHARES TRUST II - PROS
                                      BECN 37.13 -5.36 -12.61 BEACON ROOFING SUPPLY INC
                                      CAR 33.44 -5.30 -13.68 AVIS BUDGET GROUP INC
                                      NTES 256.27 -5.27 -2.01 NETEASE INC
                                      SINA 75.45 -5.08 -6.31 SINA CORP
                                      IPGP 167.27 -5.03 -2.92 IPG PHOTONICS CORP
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #1034
                                        CELG and PFE are turning out to be real good trades for me.

                                        How do I not take a profit? I am at $79.15 and $35.84 respectively for a cost basis.
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                                        • homie1975
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-24-13
                                          • 15453

                                          #1035
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          CELG and PFE are turning out to be real good trades for me.

                                          How do I not take a profit? I am at $79.15 and $35.84 respectively for a cost basis.
                                          nicely done. All time on PFE so yea it might be time to take a profit. as far as CELG you bought as close to the bottom as one might want in the last few mos so who can question you wanting to get PAID ?!?!?!!
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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #1036
                                            LNG announcing earnings at the open. I have options over the next 3 weeks.

                                            Chinese might place tariffs on US exports of liquefied natural gas.

                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            ...there is big news breaking right now in the energy markets.



                                            Some say it won't matter until future contracts expire, others say you can't stop the US energy boom.

                                            This could overshadow the earnings play and be a big problem...
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                                            • RoyBacon
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-21-05
                                              • 37074

                                              #1037
                                              ETE misses by .05 opens lower, now up.

                                              Read the report. Forget about the .05. They are way ahead on revenue. Revenue was $2 billion above estimates. That's a monster beat. This is a $26 stock after the merger this December.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #1038
                                                Jack Fusco of LNG says current contracts not affected by tariffs but those calls I have are not going very far, though the stock seems fine.

                                                Now I'm glad I didn't load up on calls.

                                                ETE looks good, if anything the chart shows a little run up for the dividend and that pull back is "natural" in my opinion, from a chart perspective.

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                                                • RoyBacon
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 09-21-05
                                                  • 37074

                                                  #1039
                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  Jack Fusco of LNG says current contracts not affected by tariffs but those calls I have are not going very far, though the stock seems fine.

                                                  Now I'm glad I didn't load up on calls.

                                                  ETE looks good, if anything the chart shows a little run up for the dividend and that pull back is "natural" in my opinion, from a chart perspective.

                                                  When I think ETE is a Buy, best to wait. It always goes down after I load up. Every fuggin time.

                                                  But ETE has a license to print money with their portfolio of assets. Trades at a discount to book and really shouldn't.
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #1040
                                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                    When I think ETE is a Buy, best to wait. It always goes down after I load up. Every fuggin time.

                                                    But ETE has a license to print money with their portfolio of assets. Trades at a discount to book and really shouldn't.
                                                    I am watching this one closely now.

                                                    Thanks Roy and Chico for the stimulating banter here.

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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #1041
                                                      Top 20 Decliners so far today with last trade over 5 and avg. 5 day volume over 250,000...


                                                      Symbol Last Trade Change % Change Description
                                                      BKNG 1,924.03 -120.98 -5.92 BOOKING HOLDINGS INC
                                                      NTES 226.85 -26.12 -10.32 NETEASE INC
                                                      TSLA 353.32 -17.02 -4.60 TESLA INC
                                                      CPA 89.00 -9.39 -9.54 COPA HOLDINGS SA
                                                      PRGO 70.35 -7.96 -10.16 PERRIGO CO PLC
                                                      LJPC 24.97 -7.82 -23.86 LA JOLLA PHARMACEUTICAL C
                                                      COST 217.78 -6.80 -3.03 COSTCO WHOLESALE CORP
                                                      LOXO 164.97 -6.72 -3.91 LOXO ONCOLOGY INC
                                                      STMP 248.56 -6.59 -2.58 STAMPS.COM INC
                                                      PTLA 31.45 -6.27 -16.61 PORTOLA PHARMACEUTICALS I
                                                      DE 139.34 -5.47 -3.78 DEERE & CO
                                                      RETA 67.76 -5.02 -6.90 REATA PHARMACEUTICALS INC
                                                      OXY 76.64 -4.56 -5.62 OCCIDENTAL PETROLEUM CORP
                                                      TTGT 24.70 -4.34 -14.94 TECHTARGET INC
                                                      ELF 10.69 -4.22 -28.30 E.L.F. BEAUTY INC
                                                      LRCX 185.89 -4.13 -2.17 LAM RESEARCH CORP
                                                      SIVB 318.09 -3.86 -1.20 SVB FINANCIAL GROUP
                                                      INGN 226.39 -3.69 -1.60 INOGEN INC
                                                      STX 51.57 -3.47 -6.30 SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY PLC
                                                      SOXL 167.02 -3.23 -1.90 DIREXION DAILY SEMI BULL
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                                                      • kidcudi92
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-14-11
                                                        • 15434

                                                        #1042
                                                        So $TSLA did have a WELLS NOTICE and Elon lied about it on the CC

                                                        Can’t make this shit up 😂
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                                                        • homie1975
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-24-13
                                                          • 15453

                                                          #1043
                                                          omg AMZ breaks through 1900
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                                                          • RoyBacon
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-21-05
                                                            • 37074

                                                            #1044
                                                            Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                            So $TSLA did have a WELLS NOTICE and Elon lied about it on the CC

                                                            Can’t make this shit up 
                                                            Fugger need to put together $70 billion of financing or he is screwed. I thought he could pull it off but at $349 the market is saying otherwise.
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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #1045
                                                              Musk may have tweeted too much and could be in trouble.

                                                              I am up a bit today, and the few down positions aren't down much.

                                                              I was worried, being busy with sports, that I wasn't fully participating in the market gains, but today is making up for that, so far.

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                                                              • chico2663
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-02-10
                                                                • 36915

                                                                #1046
                                                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                ETE misses by .05 opens lower, now up.

                                                                Read the report. Forget about the .05. They are way ahead on revenue. Revenue was $2 billion above estimates. That's a monster beat. This is a $26 stock after the merger this December.
                                                                yes but if you own etp you can get 1.25 ete. plus dividend being 20 cent bigger
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                                                                • kidcudi92
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-14-11
                                                                  • 15434

                                                                  #1047
                                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                  Fugger need to put together $70 billion of financing or he is screwed. I thought he could pull it off but at $349 the market is saying otherwise.
                                                                  He may be smart... but the SEC is on his ass now

                                                                  They were already investigating TSLA when he said there was no wells notice

                                                                  No wonder he wouldn’t take the saudi’s $

                                                                  Next Enron
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                                                                  • RoyBacon
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 09-21-05
                                                                    • 37074

                                                                    #1048
                                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                    yes but if you own etp you can get 1.25 ete. plus dividend being 20 cent bigger
                                                                    ETP dividend is history I do believe. No way they pay that 1 month before the deal closes.
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                                                                    • RoyBacon
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 09-21-05
                                                                      • 37074

                                                                      #1049
                                                                      Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                      He may be smart... but the SEC is on his ass now

                                                                      They were already investigating TSLA when he said there was no wells notice

                                                                      No wonder he wouldn’t take the saudi’s $

                                                                      Next Enron
                                                                      Crap=ola you may be right. I got cute and grabbed some at $364 a couple of days ago. I'll probably bail at the close tomorrow if he doesn't pull a rabbit out. He has some serious deep backers unlike Enron. But $70 billion deep? Probably not.
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                                                                      • homie1975
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                                        • 15453

                                                                        #1050
                                                                        tiny sell off started the last 15 mins of the session

                                                                        not being a hater here guys because my 401K is climbing nicely with the gains but we are absolutely due for a moderate sell off / correction in 3.....2......1......
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