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  • shocka1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-06-12
    • 16788

    #3361
    Originally posted by big joe 1212
    I bit the bullet and to my surprise money was in my book in 10 minutes. Costed $22 non priority
    if there are books that start accepting LTC, watch their volume skyrocket...
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    • Crusherrr
      SBR MVP
      • 06-27-16
      • 3646

      #3362
      Originally posted by shocka1212
      was at .028 a month ago....yall are impossible to please. staring at those charts daily will ruin your day... chill out. enjoy the show.. only going up from here...
      Trust me. Many of us appreciate your thoughts and ideas. I know your not big on Ripple(at least not like I am) but your other buys have been total home runs.
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      • Snowball
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 11-15-09
        • 30042

        #3363
        I find it humorous that people who watch BTC all day clamor
        over these moves - but most of us here are only in bitcoin for
        sports betting.. so it's like, oh, 40% drop, no big deal, I'll make
        that back tonight.
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        • shadymcgrady
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-27-12
          • 10036

          #3364
          Maybe not the ideal place to ask but perhaps mac4lyfe or some other posters well versed in the market can answer.

          What are the general guidelines or patterns that occur when gold and gold mining companies stock rises? There's a general pattern and an inverse.
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          • reigle9
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-25-07
            • 17879

            #3365
            Originally posted by Snowball
            I find it humorous that people who watch BTC all day clamor
            over these moves - but most of us here are only in bitcoin for
            sports betting.. so it's like, oh, 40% drop, no big deal, I'll make
            that back tonight.
            and then lose it all while everything rebounds and you're still broke

            fukkin people coming out of the woodwork to past post shit talk should be insta-banned when it rebounds
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            • Brutus84
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-08-11
              • 5188

              #3366
              Why does bitcoin cash say $0 on coinbase lol
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              • big joe 1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-01-08
                • 19379

                #3367
                Originally posted by reigle9
                Oh, that's over my head.

                Hopefully I'm not supposed to be using a middle man. Everything has been smooth so far.
                You should be using one. Hopefully Gemini won’t shut you down. But hey, you’ve saved some $ in the meantime
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                • reigle9
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-25-07
                  • 17879

                  #3368
                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                  You should be using one. Hopefully Gemini won’t shut you down. But hey, you’ve saved some $ in the meantime
                  what?

                  i only sent once and it was over the summer, so i should be good that way

                  does it matter book to gemini? cause i did that a handful of times
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                  • 7deuceoff$uit
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-08-16
                    • 2210

                    #3369
                    Originally posted by Brutus84
                    Why does bitcoin cash say $0 on coinbase lol
                    Just saw this too.
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                    • big joe 1212
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-01-08
                      • 19379

                      #3370
                      Originally posted by reigle9
                      what?

                      i only sent once and it was over the summer, so i should be good that way

                      does it matter book to gemini? cause i did that a handful of times
                      From what I’ve read hear on SBR many posters have been banned at places like Coinbase because they transfer directly to books. These are US companies so they are covering their ass
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                      • big joe 1212
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-01-08
                        • 19379

                        #3371
                        Originally posted by 7deuceoff$uit
                        Just saw this too.
                        Temporary glitch. Back to normal now
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                        • pinnerpsk
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-16-09
                          • 1687

                          #3372
                          Originally posted by big joe 1212
                          From what I’ve read hear on SBR many posters have been banned at places like Coinbase because they transfer directly to books. These are US companies so they are covering their ass

                          Happened to me back in the day. Banned from Coinbase and Circle because I did exactly that.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #3373
                            Originally posted by shocka1212
                            if there are books that start accepting LTC, watch their volume skyrocket...
                            HERITAGE accepts LTC.
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                            • mrpapageorgio
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-07-17
                              • 2974

                              #3374
                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                              if there are books that start accepting LTC, watch their volume skyrocket...
                              BetOnline and Bookmaker do off the top of my head (I wish they would advertise it on their pages as much as they do Bitcoin as a deposit/withdrawal method). Heritage "accepts" it, but charges a hefty conversion fee by the processor to convert it back to Bitcoin to complete the deposit. Bovada recently started taking Bitcoin Cash.

                              I do wonder though with these high miner fees will these books or other books start pushing other cryptos.
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                              • TheMoneyShot
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 02-14-07
                                • 28672

                                #3375
                                Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                BetOnline and Bookmaker do off the top of my head (I wish they would advertise it on their pages as much as they do Bitcoin as a deposit/withdrawal method). Heritage "accepts" it, but charges a hefty conversion fee by the processor to convert it back to Bitcoin to complete the deposit. Bovada recently started taking Bitcoin Cash.

                                I do wonder though with these high miner fees will these books or other books start pushing other cryptos.
                                I remember one poster talking about how he used a different coin other than Bitcoin... at Heritage... and the conversion price was like 30% fee not kidding. I don't know if Heritage fixed it or not???
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                                • mrpapageorgio
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-07-17
                                  • 2974

                                  #3376
                                  Originally posted by reigle9
                                  what?

                                  i only sent once and it was over the summer, so i should be good that way

                                  does it matter book to gemini? cause i did that a handful of times
                                  The US exchanges like Coinbase and Gemini as a condition of the licenses have to follow financial rules such as not facilitating online gambling so they have frozen accounts of people that have directly sent/received Bitcoin from online books (I'm guessing they have certain addresses flagged that the books reuse for deposits/withdrawals). That's why people use a personal wallet such as Blockchain to act as a middle man to hide the trail or where the Bitcoin is truly going/coming from.
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                                  • mrpapageorgio
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-07-17
                                    • 2974

                                    #3377
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    I remember one poster talking about how he used a different coin other than Bitcoin... at Heritage... and the conversion price was like 30% fee not kidding. I don't know if Heritage fixed it or not???
                                    Per their website:
                                    An applicable fee of 0.0025 BTC is charged by our provider for all AltCoin transactions
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 28672

                                      #3378
                                      Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                      Per their website:
                                      Good post. I remember him saying he deposited like $100.00 so that's right around 0.0025 BTC $32.71

                                      Would you like to lose around $30.00? I'll stick with sending Bitcoin straight.
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                                      • ans61201
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-11-15
                                        • 3661

                                        #3379
                                        Originally posted by Snowball
                                        I find it humorous that people who watch BTC all day clamor
                                        over these moves - but most of us here are only in bitcoin for
                                        sports betting.. so it's like, oh, 40% drop, no big deal, I'll make
                                        that back tonight.
                                        This very much affects sports betting.

                                        1. Books likely invested to some degree in btc, likely affecting ability to pay some

                                        2. Transactions extremely slow

                                        3. Most importantly nothing like withdrawing 5k in btc and by time it hitting your account being worth 3800
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                                        • reigle9
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-25-07
                                          • 17879

                                          #3380
                                          Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                          The US exchanges like Coinbase and Gemini as a condition of the licenses have to follow financial rules such as not facilitating online gambling so they have frozen accounts of people that have directly sent/received Bitcoin from online books (I'm guessing they have certain addresses flagged that the books reuse for deposits/withdrawals). That's why people use a personal wallet such as Blockchain to act as a middle man to hide the trail or where the Bitcoin is truly going/coming from.
                                          how have i been getting away with this then? i had no idea i was playing with fire

                                          i did the initial deposit over summer and have had 3-5 direct wd's from the book to gemini (book is 5d, idk if were not supposed to say that but whatever)

                                          guess i'm asking if 5d knows what they're doing and it might now matter
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                                          • Degenregen
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-15-12
                                            • 349

                                            #3381
                                            Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                            Yeah and good luck having it confirm. I've now got $8,000 stuck that I paid 1300/satb or whatever which is above priority and 12 hours later no confirms. Also have 2 payouts sitting unconfirmed in my blockchain too.
                                            Paid $25 for priority on the 18th, quoted time was less than an hour, still waiting after four days, what the hell did I pay for priority for?
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                                            • mrpapageorgio
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-07-17
                                              • 2974

                                              #3382
                                              Originally posted by reigle9
                                              how have i been getting away with this then? i had no idea i was playing with fire

                                              i did the initial deposit over summer and have had 3-5 direct wd's from the book to gemini (book is 5d, idk if were not supposed to say that but whatever)

                                              guess i'm asking if 5d knows what they're doing and it might now matter
                                              How the exchanges are figuring out where the Bitcoin is coming/going isn't 100% known, but a lot believe that the sloppy processors are reusing Bitcoin addresses and if an exchange eventually determines that those addresses are tied to gambling websites, they'll flag them. FWIW I also haven't seen people get their accounts frozen who have done it a couple times, but have if they've done it regularly. So either the addresses you're sending to/from haven't been flagged or you haven't done it enough from bad addresses to flag their system.

                                              Either way, I know it sucks, but you might want to bite the bullet and start sending/receiving from an intermediary as a precaution and eat the miner fee when sending/receiving between the intermediary. If your book allows alt coins as a method of deposit such as ETH or Litecoin without an extra or high conversion fee, you might want to consider using that instead (good news is those two have miner fees less than $1 when sending).

                                              Edit: Since you mentioned 5D, I'm assuming that's your main book. Unless they start allowing people to deposit using alt coins, you can either continue playing with fire or bite the bullet and use an intermediary wallet and pay the miner fees.
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                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-04-09
                                                • 48340

                                                #3383
                                                Originally posted by ans61201
                                                This very much affects sports betting.
                                                1. Books likely invested to some degree in btc, likely affecting ability to pay some
                                                2. Transactions extremely slow
                                                3. Most importantly nothing like withdrawing 5k in btc and by time it hitting your account being worth 3800
                                                Or how about withdrawing $5k in BTC and by the time it hits your account, it's worth $10k??? It goes both ways. Only you can decide when you want to withdraw or hold. The books don't care. If it's a big concern for you, there's other options. Heritage will mail you a check for free.
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                                                • reigle9
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-25-07
                                                  • 17879

                                                  #3384
                                                  thanks, appreciate it vegasgeorgio
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                                                  • bonzaii
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-07-17
                                                    • 5000

                                                    #3385
                                                    America's Cardroom which has a Sportsbook offers options to withdraw using not just bitcoin, but bitcoin cash, ether, litecoin, Dash, Ripple, and some other currencies as well. Other books should do the same.
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                                                    • reigle9
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-25-07
                                                      • 17879

                                                      #3386
                                                      Originally posted by bonzaii
                                                      America's Cardroom which has a Sportsbook offers options to withdraw using not just bitcoin, but bitcoin cash, ether, litecoin, Dash, Ripple, and some other currencies as well. Other books should do the same.
                                                      this is just a curious question trying to understand things

                                                      maybe not a question for you, but the dudes that really know this stuff

                                                      is there any reason why a book can't set itself up to take any currency or is it just a matter of effort and understanding?
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                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 48340

                                                        #3387
                                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                        Good post. I remember him saying he deposited like $100.00 so that's right around 0.0025 BTC $32.71Would you like to lose around $30.00? I'll stick with sending Bitcoin straight.
                                                        Anybody trying to deposit $100 where the fee is $30+ shouldn't be gambling in the first place. They're too dumb to manage their money. They can easily get a prepaid **** debit card ($5/5% fee in this case) or they can send a cashiers check or wire and get the entire fees reimbursed. A person to person ** transfer is cheaper as well but Heritage is trying to get away from this because it's too time consuming sending someone for pickup. Prepaid debit card is probably easiest and it can be reloaded as well.
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 48340

                                                          #3388
                                                          Originally posted by reigle9
                                                          this is just a curious question trying to understand things
                                                          maybe not a question for you, but the dudes that really know this stuff
                                                          is there any reason why a book can't set itself up to take any currency or is it just a matter of effort and understanding?
                                                          No reason whatsoever. They just need to better understand and create a process for them to not be holding the bag and reduce their risks.
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                                                          • mrpapageorgio
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-07-17
                                                            • 2974

                                                            #3389
                                                            Originally posted by reigle9
                                                            this is just a curious question trying to understand things

                                                            maybe not a question for you, but the dudes that really know this stuff

                                                            is there any reason why a book can't set itself up to take any currency or is it just a matter of effort and understanding?
                                                            For some, it's probably a matter of getting their 3rd party processor to accept alts or switching to one that will (I'm assuming the latter not being a simple undertaking).

                                                            At this rate if the Bitcoin miner fees keep going up, it might be cheaper to deposit using wire transfer if you're only depositing a few hundred at a time.
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                                                            • eidolon
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-02-08
                                                              • 9531

                                                              #3390
                                                              Good time to buy Verge and Hempcoin
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                                                              • reigle9
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-25-07
                                                                • 17879

                                                                #3391
                                                                thanks for the education guys, i'll decide what to do when the time comes (2nd race of the season)

                                                                all this shit could be outdated by mid Feb
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                                                                • ace7550
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 05-08-15
                                                                  • 3729

                                                                  #3392
                                                                  Originally posted by reigle9
                                                                  this is just a curious question trying to understand things

                                                                  maybe not a question for you, but the dudes that really know this stuff

                                                                  is there any reason why a book can't set itself up to take any currency or is it just a matter of effort and understanding?
                                                                  Bookmaker accepts a ton of cryptos:




                                                                  Always loved Bookmaker...
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                                                                  • bonzaii
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-07-17
                                                                    • 5000

                                                                    #3393
                                                                    Most books probably don't offer other options because they are satisified with the options they are offering and don't want to have to do more work/take on more risk by offering other options. There also isn't enough demand to make it worthwhile for them.

                                                                    Edit: Looks like Bookmaker/ACR offer the exact same options. THey also use the exact same software.
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                                                                    • dlowilly
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-09-16
                                                                      • 13862

                                                                      #3394
                                                                      I would rather wait to see what happens with the Asian markets tonight than buy anything now.
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                                                                      • mrpapageorgio
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 09-07-17
                                                                        • 2974

                                                                        #3395
                                                                        Originally posted by eidolon
                                                                        Good time to buy Verge and Hempcoin
                                                                        I'm assuming you mean THC?
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