Boxing Fades

[marabdl86]

you guys want it or not?

[cappinthepigs]

Dude I messaged you. I'd like an invite.

[illmatick]

email sent

[marabdl86]

Ok sent you guys the emails, hope you enjoy and make sure to seed and keep it on the downlow

[illmatick]

thanks marab,definitely going to get some use out of the site

[cappinthepigs]

Thanks Man!

[marabdl86]

there is also a site on in the general category under links called WBVA, they are also a great, great site

[illmatick]

yeah I think thats the one I used, downloading the Sosnowiski vs Danny williams fight right now

as of right now I'm thinking about throwing sosnowiski into a few 2 fight parlays, might even play the over small

[cappinthepigs]

I can't check them at work, but I will when I get home.

thanks Again.

[Trixie]

Mmm don't think I got it

[illmatick]

I take it back, vidoz at +270 or better is worth a shot, depending on what he weighs in at I will probably make him a play,Sosnowiski looked good early against danny williams but let him back in the fight, williams was startng to take control right before he got caught with a huge shot in the 10th, most of sosnowski's wins have been against cans with a few decent fighters sprinkled in. Vidoz getting up there in age but I thought he put up a good fight against Sinan Samil Sam just over a year ago, clearly won that fight in my eyes but the fight was scored a draw for the hometown fighter, Vidoz completely controlled the fight with a very effective jab, guy was an olympic bronze medalist and looks to be the more technichley sound fighter of the two, I could easily see him controlling this fight with his jab alone, sosnowski's defense not all that impressive, williams was lighting him up for parts of their fight. If vidoz comes in at anything over 250 I will probably pass, should be a motivating fight for him though, even in past fights where he has come in heavy his cardio didn't appear to be an issue

[marabdl86]

Sorry trixie I gave all my invites away. maybe these guys can hook you up

[illmatick]

Just read Graham's article on the fight , even he doesn't agree with the line on Sosnowski, interesting thing to note in this article is the fact that Vidoz quit in his last fight, a fight that he was still in, very troubling to hear, sounds to me like an old fighter who is just about ready to hang them up , still waiting to see what he weighs in at

here is the article

One of those curiosity-type heavyweight fights takes place in London on Friday (with Sky Sports televising) when British-based Albert Sosnowski, of Poland, meets Italian veteran Paolo Vidoz for the vacant European title.
Sosnowski is coming into the fight after his two best performances, having stopped Danny Williams in eight rounds and then drawn with the big southpaw Francesco Pianeta in a gruelling fight in Germany that the Polish boxer was perhaps a bit unlucky not to have won.
Vidoz, though, was lamentable in his last major fight when he quit on his stool after nine rounds against Matt Skelton in their European title bout in Milan a year ago.
That was a surprising surrender. Vidoz seemed to be doing well for a while but by the ninth he appeared to be exhausted, and he hardly threw a punch in this round.
The ending was tragicomic, with Vidoz’s promoter, Salvatore Cherchi, leaning through the ropes, pleading with Vidoz not to pack it in, even trying to push the gum shield into the reluctant fighter’s mouth, rather as Al Certo tried to insert Andrew Golota’s mouthpiece when the temperamental heavyweight decided to capitulate against Mike Tyson.
Vidoz had not been dropped, nor had he been banged around to any great degree, but he looked weary and discouraged — Skelton had been laughing at him after taking Vidoz’s punches. With three rounds remaining, Vidoz simply decided he would rather go home than heave his tired body back into the fray.
So, on face value, Sosnowski should win. He is the fighter showing good form, while Vidoz has the look of a boxer who isn’t willing to put himself through too much of an ordeal if things start to get tough.
What sort of fight this is, and whether there is any chance of an upset, depends on Vidoz and his mental and physical state.
Vidoz does have talent. He was a top-level amateur (Olympic bronze medal), he’s a former European champion, and just five months before the Skelton fiasco he had boxed well against Sinan Samil Sam in Turkey. That fight that was originally a draw, but it was changed to a win for Sam due to one of the judges having altered his scoring for the last round — from 10-10 to 10-9 in favour of Vidoz — before handing in the score slip.
The strong but plodding Sam suited Vidoz, who was able to pick up points with the left jab in a slow-paced fight. Sosnowski is a busy fighter, well-conditioned and determined. The muscular Polish heavyweight is likely to set a brisk pace and keep the punches flowing, which is just what Vidoz doesn’t want.
This fight is in the nature of a last stand for Vidoz. He is 39, and there will be no tomorrows — not in boxing — if he loses. How much does it matter to Vidoz, though?
An amateur psychologist might think that Vidoz’s pride has been pricked by the Skelton debacle, that he feels a sense of shame and will want to redeem himself. It might not be in Vidoz’s nature, though, to harbour any burning need for redemption. He is an easy going individual, one who doesn’t take himself too seriously — his “Village People”-themed ring walks in Italy speak to his sense of fun. I have no doubt that Sosnowski will be the fighter with the greater desire for victory, more “ambitious” as they say in Britain.
If Vidoz shows up ready to win, he can do well on Friday because he is an experienced and competent fighter, and Sosnowski, although earnest and industrious, isn’t what you would call a world-class heavyweight. My suspicion, though, is that Vidoz would rather be chatting amiably over a bottle of Chianti with convivial company back home in Italy rather than sharing a ring with an aggressive opponent. This, then, is a fight that Vidoz can win, but probably won’t.
The oddsmakers have Sosnowski as a fairly wide favourite, with an over/under of 9.5 rounds priced at about evens.
I don’t make Sosnowski quite as big a favourite as the professional oddsmakers, because Vidoz just might surprise us all and produce a performance that will bring him pats on the back when he returns home. The likely result, though, is that Sosnowski will simply outwork and outlast Vidoz, and either outpoint him or wear him down for a stoppage in the last third of the fight.

Last Updated: December 16, 2009 8:48pm

[Trixie]

im on pavlik U7.5

[illmatick]

I was looking at that as well, need to look at some film on his opp

only thing I know is that hes never been ko, not that that means a whole lot against pavlik

[illmatick]

going with a little bit of chalk today

Juan Carlos Reveco -340 x2.5

Albert Sosnowski vs Paolo Vidoz under 9.5 +100 x.5

[illmatick]

marab where you at, playing anything today or tomorrow?

vidoz pushing +290 right now, have a feeling I might regret not playing him, fat ass came in at 255lbs

[marabdl86]

Not playing anything. Sosnowski and his camp tried to cheat in that Danny Williams fight if i remember correct. They were trying to buy their man, some time while he was getting a butt whooping.

I think you did good by just playing the under. Can't say I know too much about these guys.

If you remember pavlik's opponent was on the contender. Haven't kept up with him since then, and he wasn't anything special 4 years ago. Pavlik should get him out of there within 4 rounds imo

[marabdl86]

I lost all respect for pavlik. The guy is running scared from Paul Williams. he says his hands needs to still heal and fights a month later beating against a guy with no chance in hell at beating him?

Pavlik needs to get his shit together

[illmatick]

Pavlik definitely making boxing look bad, will be hard to pull the trigger on him for future fights

sosnowski work rate is too much early, Vidoz not looking too bad

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[marabdl86]

Sorry man looked like it went the distance. Don't know much about those fighters, or you know I would have helped you on that one

[illmatick]

yeah I wasn't all that confident in the play either way, my chalk play cashed so still a small profit on the day, +.24 units

[marabdl86]

take under 7.5 in the Pavlik, Espino fight

[illmatick]

played it in a parlay at -170, gl

[marabdl86]

gl buddy

[illmatick]

Round 5: Espino runs across the ring to engage Pavlik. He continues to bravely fire away, but is getting beaten to the punch. Pavlik straightens up Espino, and then, catches him walking into an overhand right that drops Espino to his knees again. Espino rises before the count, but Espino's cornerman, John Bray, signals to Steve Smoger that he is stopping the fight.

PAVLIK WINS BY FIFTH ROUND TKO.

nice call guys

[marabdl86]

Good win buddy, But Espino had no chance in hell at beating Pavlik

[illmatick]

simple money, doesnt get much easier than that

locked up o11½ -145 x 1.5 in the Dirrell vs Abraham fight

[Trixie]

Yup.

[Trixie]

ill - why you like that over?

[marabdl86]

Good call, this fight will go the distance with Dirrel getting the nod in my opinion

[illmatick]

Good call, this fight will go the distance with Dirrel getting the nod in my opinion

Yeah I think the line closes around -165 or even -170, still value at the moment

[marabdl86]

Berto Mosley fight soon

Can't wait to unload on Berto, Mosley's finished as a fighter

[Trixie]

I was thinking that since the beginning. But Berto is not exactly flawless

[RobbReport]

Berto definitely can be beat by Mosley, look what he did to Margarito. Berto doesn't have better cardio, maybe better power, but Mosley has better boxing and is faster and can maybe win on points.