Official Bernie Sanders for President 2016 thread

[scumbag]

Add dullard to that list

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[sourtwist]

Lol makes sense

[sourtwist]

Guy is a train wreck

[scumbag]

Lol makes sense

not much does make sense to a dullard like you. you can't ever figure out what's in your best interests.

[jt315]

we had socialism in the 1950's? you penetrating clown.

maybe you clowns haven't heard- americans support taking from the super-wealthy and using the money for public investment (aka "redistribution of wealth).

You have a better chance of hitting the lottery twice in a week before that socialist loon gets in the White House. GTFOH with Americans support redistribution of wealth (aka legalized theft) CLOWN !!

[scumbag]

You have a better chance of hitting the lottery twice in a week before that socialist loon gets in the White House. GTFOH with Americans support redistribution of wealth (aka legalized theft) CLOWN !!

idiot- over 60% of the top 1% support raising taxes on themselves. evidence:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100335218

of course the majority of americans support taxing the rich at a higher rate and using that money for the public good.

[sourtwist]

Idk why anyone even tries to talk to this guy. Every post starts with name calling

[scumbag]

he insulted me first. you're more than welcome to GTFO of my thread sourtwat. you bring nothing to the table

[itchypickle]

idiot- over 60% of the top 1% support raising taxes on themselves. evidence:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100335218

of course the majority of americans support taxing the rich at a higher rate and using that money for the public good.

As if it would actually be used for that....thats the sticking point in the argument man. Tax revenues taken in have been highest in history lately...and it still doesn't get it done. The two real world reasons Bernie's idea won't come to fruition are that you can't just hand someone money and expect them to use it wisely so you could give every poverty level person in America today a tax free $20k gift and they would still be where they are next year. Second reason....while I agree with spending on infrastructure....the way it would be done and the scale is not going to happen. When I hear him say 'we could create millions of jobs building bridges and roads' he doesn't take into account the want or the skills needed for that to happen, meaning not every unemployed person has the drive to take a job like that if offered or ability - both physically and talent/knowledge wise. More taxes aren't the answer to all the problems.

[scumbag]

As if it would actually be used for that....thats the sticking point in the argument man. Tax revenues taken in have been highest in history lately...and it still doesn't get it done. The two real world reasons Bernie's idea won't come to fruition are that you can't just hand someone money and expect them to use it wisely so you could give every poverty level person in America today a tax free $20k gift and they would still be where they are next year. Second reason....while I agree with spending on infrastructure....the way it would be done and the scale is not going to happen. When I hear him say 'we could create millions of jobs building bridges and roads' he doesn't take into account the want or the skills needed for that to happen, meaning not every unemployed person has the drive to take a job like that if offered or ability - both physically and talent/knowledge wise. More taxes aren't the answer to all the problems.

idiotic opinion. bolded the worst part. you're intellectually challenged, bro and i won't waste my energy trying to educate you.

[sourtwist]

Scumbag go have some fun. Watch a game or something you fukkin bitch

[jt315]

idiotic opinion. bolded the worst part. you're intellectually challenged, bro and i won't waste my energy trying to educate you.

Looks like you were the one taken to school.

[scumbag]

did you read his post moron?

by his math a guaranteed basic income to keep every american above the poverty line would create a culture of dependence where very few work. all of the empirical evidence would prove that's incorrect.

We like to think that people have to work for their money. In recent decades, social welfare has become geared toward a labor market that does not create enough jobs. The trend from “welfare” to “workfare” is international, with obligatory job applications, reintegration trajectories, mandatory participation in “voluntary” work. The underlying message: Free money makes people lazy.Except that it doesn’t.
In recent years, numerous studies of development aid have found impressive correlations between free money and reductions in crime, inequality, malnutrition, infant mortality, teenage pregnancy rates and truancy. It is also correlated with better school completion rates, higher economic growth and improvement in the condition of women.“The big reason poor people are poor is because they don’t have enough money,” economist Charles Kenny, a fellow at the Center for Global Development, wrote in June. “It shouldn’t come as a huge surprise that giving them money is a great way to reduce that problem.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/free-money-might-be-the-best-way-to-end-poverty/2013/12/29/679c8344-5ec8-11e3-95c2-13623eb2b0e1_story.html

smarten up idiot.

[Ra77er]

itchypickle is growing on me, that cannot be a good thing

[lakerboy]

obama is young and black. most of his policies suck. reagan was old too. reagan obviously sucked but age shouldn't disqualify bernie if it didn't disqualify reagan.

Reagan obviously sucked??? Lmao. Reagan. Was the only good president america ever had.

[stevenash]

^
The greatest of all time.

[itchypickle]

idiotic opinion. bolded the worst part. you're intellectually challenged, bro and i won't waste my energy trying to educate you.

Have you ever met/talked to the people who are 24+ and still work low wages yet can't seem to get bills paid on time but always have the latest Madden or whatever the item? There is a reason people stay broke and it's not a corporation's fault bud. That goes for the guy making $8/hr as well as $16/hr.

Why the fukk do you think every store in the country advertises 'bring in your tax refund' sales in April. Because dumbasses who get that $1200 check or so run to buy something fun instead of putting it toward better options dimwit.

[scumbag]

Reagan obviously sucked??? Lmao. Reagan. Was the only good president america ever had.

well... we all figured you were penetrating retarded. thanks for confirming it.

[scumbag]

did you read his post moron?

by his math a guaranteed basic income to keep every american above the poverty line would create a culture of dependence where very few work. all of the empirical evidence would prove that's incorrect.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/free-money-might-be-the-best-way-to-end-poverty/2013/12/29/679c8344-5ec8-11e3-95c2-13623eb2b0e1_story.html

smarten up idiot.

itchy, address this you penetrating dolt.

[scumbag]

^
The greatest of all time.

idiot!

1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.” Reagan enacted a major tax cut his first year in office and government revenue dropped off precipitously. Despite the conservative myth that tax cuts somehow increase revenue, the government went deeper into debt and Reagan had to raise taxes just a year after he enacted his tax cut. Despite ten more tax hikes on everything from gasoline to corporate income, Reagan wasnever able to get the deficit under control.
3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980’s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted.
4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. Reagan promised “to move boldly, decisively, and quickly to control the runaway growth of federal spending,” but federal spending “ballooned” under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future. He promised to cut government agencies like the Department of Energy and Education but ended up adding one of the largest — the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which today has a budget of nearly $90 billion and close to 300,000 employees. He also hiked defense spendingby over $100 billion a year to a level not seen since the height of the Vietnam war.
5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose. As governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed a bill to liberalize the state’s abortion laws that “resulted in more than a million abortions.” When Reagan ran for president, he advocated a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, but once in office, he “never seriously pursued” curbing choice.
6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” He wrote in his memoirs that “[m]y dream…became a world free of nuclear weapons.” “This vision stemmed from the president’s belief that the biblical account of Armageddon prophesied nuclear war — and that apocalypse could be averted if everyone, especially the Soviets, eliminated nuclear weapons,” the Washington Monthly noted. And Reagan’s military buildup was meant to crush the Soviet Union, but “also to put the United States in a stronger position from which to establish effective arms control” for the the entire world — a vision acted out by Regean’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, when he became president.
7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed into law a bill that made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty. The bill was sold as a crackdown, but its tough sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants were removed before final passage. The bill helped 3 million people and millions more family members gain American residency. It has since become a source of major embarrassment for conservatives.
8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran. Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly sold arms to officials in Iran, which was subject to a an arms embargo at the time, in exchange for American hostages. Some funds from the illegal arms sales also went to fund anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua — something Congress had already prohibited the administration from doing. When the deals went public, the Iran-Contra Affair, as it came to be know, was an enormous political scandal that forced several senior administration officials to resign.
9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. which placed sanctions on South Africa and cut off all American trade with the country. Reagan’s veto wasoverridden by the Republican-controlled Senate. Reagan responded by saying “I deeply regret that Congress has seen fit to override my veto,” saying that the law “will not solve the serious problems that plague that country.”
10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagan’s decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.

[Ra77er]

I think itchy would build an empire.

[stevenash]

Wonder who Scumbag's flavor of the week is going to be next week?
First it was that twat Elizabeth Warren, now it's the socialist Jew from Vermont.

[DwightShrute]

Wonder who Scumbag's flavor of the week is going to be next week?
First it was that twat Elizabeth Warren, now it's the socialist Jew from Vermont.

pretty sure he's written letters pleading Al Gore and Howard Dean to run.

[stevenash]

^
And his butt buddy Harry Reid.

[DwightShrute]

^
And his butt buddy Harry Reid.

hasn't he been beat up enough?

[scumbag]

Wonder who Scumbag's flavor of the week is going to be next week?
First it was that twat Elizabeth Warren, now it's the socialist Jew from Vermont.

this creep clearly dislikes women and jews.

[itchypickle]

I think itchy would build an empire.

It would be a cornucopia of awesomeness no doubt.

To borrow from Nas lyrics:

[Verse 1: Nas]
Imagine smoking weed in the streets without cops harassin
Imagine going to court with no trial
Lifestyle cruising blue Bahama waters
No welfare supporters more conscious of the way we raise our daughters
Days are shorter, nights are colder
Feeling like life is over, these snakes strike like a cobra
The world's hotmy son got knocked, evidently
It's elementary, they want us all gone eventually
Trooping out of state for a plate of knowledge
If coke was cooked without the garbage we'd all have the top dollars
Imagine everybody flashing, fashion
Designer clothes,lacing your clique upwith diamond Roles
Your people holding dough, no parole
No rubbers, go in rawimagine law with no undercovers
Just some thoughts for the mind
I take a glimpse into time
Watch the blimp read "The World Is Mine"

[Ra77er]

Sign me up itchyDEE, i'll pack our bags We need to do this on the 4th.

[TheGuesser]

Want to know what sets Bernie Sanders apart from Hillary Clinton? Look at their donors.

Updated by Dylan Matthews on June 13, 2015, 12:44 p.m. ET @dylanmatt dylan@vox.com
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Win McNamee/Getty Images; Kevin Hagen/Getty Images

As the Democratic presidential primary progresses, you can expect Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to argue forcefully that Hillary Clinton, who held the first rally of her campaign today, is beholden to corporate interests, particularly the finance sector. And when he does so, you could imagine him citing these numbers:
OpenSecrets.org, screenshot from Bombed
This screenshot from Reddit user Bombed shows the OpenSecrets.org "career profiles" of Clinton and Sanders, summarizing their top contributors from 1989 to the present. That leaves out Sanders's time as mayor of Burlington, but includes both politicians' entire careers in federal politics. "The organizations themselves did not donate," OpenSecrets explains. "Rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families."
The differences could hardly be more striking. Out of Clinton's top 20 organizational donors, only two (EMILY's List and the University of California) aren't corporate. There are seven mega-banks, five corporate law/lobbying firms, and three big entertainment companies. Now, to be fair to Clinton, the vast majority of these donations came from individuals rather than corporate PACs, and as a senator from New York it's understandable that finance and media interests (not to mention New York ceramics giant Corning) would give to her heavily. But it's still a very corporate-heavy list.
By contrast, 19 of Sanders's top 20 donors are unions. The one non-labor group on the list is the American Association for Justice, an interest group for plaintiff's attorneys, perhaps the most reliable non-union Democratic constituency. This isn't too surprising. Sanders is, along with Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), just about the most pro-labor member of the Senate. He has fought free trade agreements for decades and is a major opponent of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, he's critical of guest worker programs that he believes undercut Americans' wages, and he's pushed back on the Obama administration's education reform agenda. (Vermont, it should be said, is the only state in the union without charter schools.)
This is precisely the contrast Sanders wants to set up: Clinton's donor list reads bank, bank, bank, and his reads union, union, union. That won't be enough to win, not least because Democratic primary voters aren't actually more liberal than Clinton. But the threat of being tarred as a tool of finance could be enough to push Clinton in a more populist direction, which is what victory for Sanders would really look like.

Thanks to Chris Meyer for the pointer to the screenshot.

[scumbag]

But the threat of being tarred as a tool of finance could be enough to push Clinton in a more populist direction, which is what victory for Sanders would really look like.

only a fool would believe that hillary cares about regular people and will represent us if she's elected. she's going to look after the people who gave her all her money (all two billion of it).

bernie is not in the race so hillary can pretend to be a populist (aka pulling an obama).

[Ra77er]

Ouch this one is really painful tonight.

[scumbag]

hey... "bernie can never win" people. bernie is now essentially tied with hillary in new hampshire after the tear he's been on in the polls.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/16/bernie-sanders-on-the-rise-in-new-hampshire-polling/

[sourtwist]

Whatever that guy scumbag wants, give me the absolute opposite

[scumbag]

GTFO or contribute to the discussion sourtwat.

[sourtwist]

Can't have a conversation with someone who calls people names in every single post. I'm surprised anyone even entertains you enough to keep you around. You're a sad person.