Rangers trade Ian Kinsler for Prince Fielder

[rcene]

Agreed.

Texas really didn't need Ian all that bad. Profar has unlimited upside, and Elvis is too good of a SS to get rid of. Rangers ballpark is a great hitters park. I think Prince will do great here.

Good trade for all involved I think.

What is Washington best known for? Fixing infielders. He will get Andrus fixed next year. I like this move alot for Texas.

[Deuce]

keep infante let him play 3

Castellanos moves to 3rd immediately.

[Smoke]

[lakerboy]

Rangers

So its better to win 1 world series game in 9 tries?

[teaserpleaser]

That's a decent photoshop? no way that's real

[Smoke]

Enjoy opie

[Big Bear]

Rangers won't sniff the playoffs next year i can guarantee yall that.

Not that Prince isnt a good player but A's are still the class of the west

[Cuse0323]

Fatty gave up when he got his money.

[Smoke]

[JJJ]

What is Washington best known for? Fixing infielders. He will get Andrus fixed next year. I like this move alot for Texas.

Washington is best known for being an idiot

[billysink]

Castellanos moves to 3rd immediately.

i hope not

[opie1988]

Daniels is awful sharp. Who knows how much $ he has coming back??

Cano next??

[SamDiamond]

Agreed.

Texas really didn't need Ian all that bad. Profar has unlimited upside, and Elvis is too good of a SS to get rid of. Rangers ballpark is a great hitters park. I think Prince will do great here.

Good trade for all involved I think.

Op, if Fielder can't hit behind Miggy Cabrera----he can't hit period.

There's a reason why Detroit wanted to get rid of him....

Texas dealt from a position of depth--- Detroit dealt from, "How do we get this fat fuk outta here?"

[lakerboy]

Take cano please.

[Smoke]

One more then I'm done here. Hey opie enjoy eating up that 168 million owed to prince

[Deuce]

Detroit taking on < $50,000,000

Dave must be a really good salesman. Holy mackerel.

[opie1988]

Not a fukk on here has a single clue how this will turn out for either team, including me.

Lets not forget all the savants last year crowning the Angels as WS champs and Josh Hamilton as the missing piece. We all saw how that looked 8 months later.

Lots of upside for both teams. Can't ask for anymore than that in November.

[easyliving]

Fielder will have a big year next season thanks to that home park. I wonder how this will affect Miggy and how he performs without Fielder to protect him in the lineup

[EaglesPhan36]

Daniels is awful sharp. Who knows how much $ he has coming back??

Cano next??

The same Daniels who didn't fill the hole Josh Hamilton left in the lineup and didn't have much of a plan when Cruz got suspended? Sharp. They have done wonders with their minor league system, but JD made some large mistakes in building that team last year.

[stevenash]

prince maybe bounces back next year?

No, production numbers dropping like a stone the past three seasons, there is no reason to believe Prince's numbers will increase.
I could be wrong, but I am looking at an aging, overweight, albeit power hitter, whose power numbers have decreased 20 percent give or take since 2011. His homers have gone from 38 to 30 to 25 since 2011 as well.

Here's the important part, his numbers have been declining while being protected by the greatest hitter this generation has seen hitting in front of him. Prince will never see the likes of a Miggy batting in front of him again.

I am a big fan of Beltre, love his stick, nothing not to love about AB, but I don't think Texas will move him out of clean up, Prince might hit third, but I think he'd be better off hitting 5th behind Beltre.

This is not a win/win, Kinsler, while not an elite second baseman, Cano and Pedroia are, Carp is approaching elite status, so is Kipnis, Kinsler is at the top of the next tier down.

Solid up the middle infielders with a live stick, are so much rarer that corner infielder/outfielders with a mediocre glove that can hit 28 homers.
I can name you at least a dozen corner guys that can produce 28 homers, I can name maybe five better all around up the middle defenders that can do better than Kinsler can do.

Kinsler will give you at least .275, gets on base at a 35 percent or so clip, steals bases, and will easily hit double digit homers, and could easily hit 20 out in Mo Town next season. I don't think you'll see 30 homers again out of Kinsler, but 22 is obtainable, maybe 25.

Remember, up the middle defenders save starting pitchers runs, the ability to turn ground ball singles into 4-3 outs, is huge.

Kinsler has good range, not world class range, but good.

Tigers did very well here.

I will sat this for Prince, he has played pretty much every game for the last seven consecutive seasons

[VegasInsider]

Great trade for Detroit. Now they can put the money where it's rightfully deserved (Max) and not wasted on the fat tub of blubber that can't move. They'll toss Cabrera back to first and have that Castellanos dude at 3B. Or...they go after Cano if he can be convinced to play 3B

[Deuce]

$30 million. HAHHAHAAHAH

[opie1988]

No, production numbers dropping like a stone the past three seasons, there is no reason to believe Prince's numbers will increase.
I could be wrong, but I am looking at an aging, overweight, albeit power hitter, whose power numbers have decreased 20 percent give or take since 2011. His homers have gone from 38 to 30 to 25 since 2011 as well.

Here's the important part, his numbers have been declining while being protected by the greatest hitter this generation has seen hitting in front of him. Prince will never see the likes of a Miggy batting in front of him again.

I am a big fan of Beltre, love his stick, nothing not to love about AB, but I don't think Texas will move him out of clean up, Prince might hit third, but I think he'd be better off hitting 5th behind Beltre.

This is not a win/win, Kinsler, while not an elite second baseman, Cano and Pedroia are, Carp is approaching elite status, so is Kipnis, Kinsler is at the top of the next tier down.

Solid up the middle infielders with a live stick, are so much rarer that corner infielder/outfielders with a mediocre glove that can hit 28 homers.
I can name you at least a dozen corner guys that can produce 28 homers, I can name maybe five better all around up the middle defenders that can do better than Kinsler can do.

Kinsler will give you at least .275, gets on base at a 35 percent or so clip, steals bases, and will easily hit double digit homers, and could easily hit 20 out in Mo Town next season. I don't think you'll see 30 homers again out of Kinsler, but 22 is obtainable, maybe 25.

Remember, up the middle defenders save starting pitchers runs, the ability to turn ground ball singles into 4-3 outs, is huge.

Kinsler has good range, not world class range, but good.

Tigers did very well here.

I will sat this for Prince, he has played pretty much every game for the last seven consecutive seasons

I'll name you one better middle infielder....

Jurickson Profar.

Kinsler was expendable. JP needs to play everyday. That's why this happened.

[stevenash]

I'll name you one better middle infielder....

Jurickson Profar.

Kinsler was expendable. JP needs to play everyday. That's why this happened.

Totally agree Opie, totally agree, Profar's upside is sky high, the time to move Kinsler is now, I rate Atlanta's Simmons and Profar even as all around up the middle guys, and Profar should surpass him, and I get Texas thinks the best deal they could get for Ian was Prince.

I get all that, but Tigers made out better from where I sit, but Rangers did not get whamboozled either.

[jjgold]

Doesn't matter pitching wins championships

Fielder just an average hitter

[Iwinyourmoney]

Just read Detroit picking up 30 mil of the tab

[opie1988]

Just read Detroit picking up 30 mil of the tab

No shit?

Welcome to 15 mins ago, pal.

Iwin....you watch yourself, pal.

[Iwinyourmoney]

2012--$23 million
2013--$23 million
2014--$24 million
2015--$24 million
2016--$24 million
2017--$24 million
2018--$24 million
2019--$24 million
2020--$24 million
MVP-$500,000
MVP second through fifth place-$200,000
MVP sixth through 10th place-$100,000
2nd through 9th time MVP--$1 million
All-Star-$100,000 elected as starter ($50,000 selected as reserve) or $100,000 for Baseball America, The Sporting News or The Associated Press All-Star
Silver Slugger-$100,000
Gold Glove-$100,000
Hank Aaron Award-$100,000
League championship series MVP-$150,000
World Series MVP-$200,000
—Fielder may be traded to 10 clubs without his consent.
—Fielder gets a hotel suite on road.
—Fielder will purchase luxury suite for home games.

[BuddyBear]

I am pretty skeptical of this. The truth is, Fielder is still a better player than Kinsler. If you accept that premise, the Tigers got rid of the better player, took in the weaker one, and is paying the majority of the salary? Sure, IK is a better defender, but his defense is nothing spectacular either and Fielder played the one position on the diamond where you could be a defensive liability and still be okay. So In other words, the offense differential that is lost by obtaining Kinsler will have to be made up somewhere else. But where? One possibility is that the pitching is going to have to be even better than it was last year....highly unlikely given that it was historically good. Cabrera? Maybe if he is not hurt. But now, he does not have Fielder protecting him in the lineup. I don't see how this is such a great move personally. At best a lateral move.

[King Mayan]

Rangers

[manny24]

....

[ksnooksk]

Lateral move for both, imo.

[manny24]

black Rob Ford

Fielder's already been stripped of his powers too!

[seaborneq]

When someone pays 30 million for you to leave, that is a bad sign.

[Itsamazing777]

Tigers eating 30 million. Still saving a ton Amd they get kindler, Amd get to keep max
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