Canbet, Centrebet, Ladbrokes, Stan James vs Pinny, CRIS, DSI, Greek etc - RANT

[betplom]

Canbet, Centrebet, Ladbrokes, Stan James.

Customer service is top notch, if I have a problem or a request these places never hesitate to help.
Getting things done is easy, withdrawals are free and quick, I can put the request in online while logged into one of my accounts for a moneybookers payout and can expect to see the funds in my moneybookers account anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours later.

These UK/Aussie books don't ask for my password, they ask me verification questions when dealing with personal information of mine.


CRIS - they ask for my password when I contact them, these guys are in a third world country and I don't particulary trust them, I really hate giving out my password.

DSI - Same as CRIS with passwords but my DSI account is in Canadian Dollars, when I order a check I have to pay $50 USD, then get a US Dollar check in the CAD equivalent, I get hosed on the exchange every time.
The DSI "rewards program" isn't fully available (Freeplays -YES, free payouts - NO) to Canadians, only US residents. I no longer use DSI.

Pinnacle - I changed my email address because of spam, I told Pinny of my new email, they told me they had to send my moneybookers payouts to my old email address for all previous deposits until they were cleared off the books (even though my email addy was now inactive), their customer service via email is often unhelpful and downright arrogant - I'm not playing much at Pinny lately.

Greek - difficult to understand CS reps that seem annoyed at having to help out, never seem to be very helpful, I find I have to ask to speak to a supervisor to get anything done by them

One thing I know is that I receive much better treatment/customer service from licensed UK/Aussie books than I have from any "offshore" book - EVER!

I'm just venting my frustrations at the moment, offshore books do have some useful features but they are a distant second to the books I mentioned at the top in terms of customer satisfaction.

I'll probably add to this as I think of other things I like/dislike about the different books.

[durito]

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[betplom]

Right, we get it, your so good you've been shown the door by all the big UK books.

Heard it a zillion times already, give it a fυcking rest.

Not that I actually believe Canbet and Centrebet cut you but your routine is getting very old.

Don't you get tired of telling this story?

[Cloak & Dagger]

Right, we get it, your so good you've been shown the door by all the big UK books.

Heard it a zillion times already, give it a fυcking rest.

Not that I actually believe Canbet and Centrebet cut you but your routine is getting very old.

Don't you get tired of telling this story?

p.s. skybook has the best CS IMO and ive tried just about every A+ rated book

[durito]

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[englishmike]

Durito: Call Stan james tommorow and tell them you want $50K on Man Utd to win the Premiership, then get back to me.

Have you ever bet soccer at these books?

Thanks pal.

[betplom]

I'm just venting my frustrations at the moment, offshore books do have some useful features but they are a distant second to the books I mentioned at the top in terms of customer satisfaction.

This was the whole point of this thread, I hadn't realized it would appear as an opportunity for you to tell us how great you think you are - again.

Durito, please let us know when you actually put a book out of business.

My immediate thought when someone claims to be so smart as to be kicked out/limited of/by multiple books for winning why that person isn't smart enough to figure out how to open other accounts with these same books to continue their winning ways.
My guess is because the stories you tell are all fiction.

One needs about the intelligence of a door knob to be shown the door from most euro books.

Seems as all you offer are vague statements such as this, it does nothing to substantiate your claim (s).

Durito, get over yourself pal.

[durito]

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[durito]

This was the whole point of this thread, I hadn't realized it would appear as an opportunity for you to tell us how great you think you are - again.

Durito, please let us know when you actually put a book out of business.

My immediate thought when someone claims to be so smart as to be kicked out/limited of/by multiple books for winning why that person isn't smart enough to figure out how to open other accounts with these same books to continue their winning ways.
My guess is because the stories you tell are all fiction.




Seems as all you offer are vague statements such as this, it does nothing to substantiate your claim (s).

Durito, get over yourself pal.

lol

[durito]

you act like i am bragging here.

those books limit just about everyone

[betplom]

you act like i am bragging here.

those books limit just about everyone

Not just here, it seems you like to brag anywhere if given the opportunity.

The way you explain it makes it seem the big UK/Aussie books are ONLY taking wagers from the masses of people betting $5 a game.

I guess I take exception to the fact I was merely explaining how different customer service was in my experience from different books I've dealt with and then have you come into the thread acting like a pompous ass once again without having anything of value to offer.

Why is it that you claim to be so smart but display such an obvious lack of common sense and courtesy?

You seem to have an excellent understanding of many things, your social skills are totally lacking and you are very ignorant of this fact, maybe you could learn people skills somewhere.

[durito]

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[englishmike]

Mike-

You seem to confuse euro books willing to taking large -ev bets with them willing to take all action. I have no idea what the fair price on Man U to win the Premiership is, but i bet you the odds they are offering are -ev.

And yes I've been booted from several euro books for betting soccer.

Durito, I'm done arguing with you because I find you more interesting than annoying, but sometimes you need to realise that YOUR experience is not every elses experience, much in the same way as some people have been beaten to a pulp by LAPD and some have been pulled from rivers and had their lives saved. You apply your experiences to everyone else when they're not neccesarily that persons experience pal and then assume they've had a different experience because they're 'square.' Scan my posted soccerpicks over the last month and let me know if I'm square.

[englishmike]

And....Stan james bet most soccer games to 102%, not sure where you get 8% from....with respect.

[durito]

Durito, I'm done arguing with you because I find you more interesting than annoying, but sometimes you need to realise that YOUR experience is not every elses experience, much in the same way as some people have been beaten to a pulp by LAPD and some have been pulled from rivers and had their lives saved. You apply your experiences to everyone else when they're not neccesarily that persons experience pal and then assume they've had a different experience because they're 'square.' Scan my posted soccerpicks over the last month and let me know if I'm square.

I am simply relating mine and many others I've spoken to (scan the sportsbooks & industry section and you will see stuff like this discussed daily). I am not making any inferences about you or anyone else.

[durito]

06 12 13:45 Fulham vs Man City 2.50 3.20 2.60
06 12 16:00 Arsenal vs Wigan 1.29 4.50 10.00


06 12 16:00 Blackburn vs Liverpool 5.00 3.25 1.67
10 Más Apuestas

* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* - Todo -

06 12 16:00 Bolton vs Chelsea 6.00 3.50 1.53
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* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* - Todo -

06 12 16:00 Hull vs Middlesbrough 2.38 3.20 2.75
10 Más Apuestas

* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* - Todo -

06 12 16:00 Newcastle vs Stoke 1.80 3.25 4.33
10 Más Apuestas

* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* - Todo -

06 12 18:30 Man United vs Sunderland 1.14 7.00 13.00
20 Más Apuestas

* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Minuto Del Primer Gol
* Primer Equipo que Marcará
* 1er Saque De Esquina
* ¿En Que Tiempo Habrán Más Goles?
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* Primer Goleador
* Último Goleador
* Goleador En Cualquier Momento
* Equipo A No Marcar
* First Goalscorer-Scorecast
* Last Goalscorer-Scorecast
* - Todo -

07 12 17:00 Everton vs Aston Villa 2.38 3.20 2.75
20 Más Apuestas

* Resultado Doble
* Resultado Exacto
* Handicap del Partido
* Total de Goles en el Partido
* Total de Goles (2.5)
* Doble Oportunidad
* 90 Minutos Sin Empate (empate = apuestas anuladas)
* Minuto Del Primer Gol
* Primer Equipo que Marcará
* 1er Saque De Esquina
* ¿En Que Tiempo Habrán Más Goles?
* Apuesta a los 45 Minutos
* Total Goles (Spreads)
* Goles 1ª Parte
* Primer Goleador
* Último Goleador
* Goleador En Cualquier Momento
* Equipo A No Marcar
* First Goalscorer-Scorecast
* Last Goalscorer-Scorecast
* - Todo -

07 12 16:00 West Brom vs Portsmouth 2.50 3.20 2.60

08 12 21:00 West Ham vs Tottenham 2.50 3.20 2.60

[betplom]

Let's look at it from another perspective.

Stan James Hold:

English Premiership: 8.8%
NFL: 4.5%


Pinnacle Hold

EPL: 3% (less on handicaps)
NFL: 1.9%


But hey, you can't call pinnacle. That must be worth thousands of dollars in extra juice per year.

Apples/Oranges. We aren't even talking about the same things.
Being as smart as you think you are I thought maybe you would comprehend this.

(hint - re-read the original post, it is very clear, most people - even people not smart enough to be booted/limited by dozens of books understood the original post.)

Your lack of comprehension is quite impressive. I'm beginning to wonder about your capacity, seems as though you are very intelligent in certain ways but are totally void of other skills others have no problem with. This is clear to other posters, you haven't figured it out yet, sad.

I tend to agree with Mike, you can be interesting but your demeanor is very ugly, the fact you won't back down when confronted with this is quite annoying.

[durito]

I understand the original post.

You need your hand held at every book you play at. For that I'd recommend the books you listed.

[englishmike]

Durito, I've just been to Pinnacle to compare odds with Stan james for this weeks Premier League matches and they have no M/L prices, perhaps that's why they offer such good rates, they bring them out an hour before the game.

[durito]

it's probably not the best place to play soccer

it's still the best book in the world

[betplom]

Durito, I'm done arguing with you because I find you more interesting than annoying, but sometimes you need to realise that YOUR experience is not every elses experience, much in the same way as some people have been beaten to a pulp by LAPD and some have been pulled from rivers and had their lives saved. You apply your experiences to everyone else when they're not neccesarily that persons experience pal and then assume they've had a different experience because they're 'square.' Scan my posted soccerpicks over the last month and let me know if I'm square.

Good post Mike, your smarter than you look, pal.

[englishmike]

I use the word 'experience' too much.

[englishmike]

it's probably not the best place to play soccer

it's still the best book in the world

Doesn't that somewhat diminish your argument?

[betplom]

I understand the original post.

You need your hand held at every book you play at. For that I'd recommend the books you listed.

You infer I need my "hand held" , what I was referring to and what most people here understood was that I was speaking about my pleasant customer service experiences with the big books when it came to problem solving etc. Changing an email; address shouldn't be as difficult as Pinnacle made it, I made the same request at Canbet and had no problem.

See my quote below, your message above is a perfect example, the fact you are unable to comprehend is stunning, Durito you are pathetic.

The fact you can't absorb the fact your demeanor/posting style is arrogant/pompous is also very sad, I think I'll give up trying to explain.

I tend to agree with Mike, you can be interesting but your demeanor is very ugly, the fact you won't back down when confronted with this is quite annoying.

[durito]

This guy has a huge limit at stan james

My online limit at Stan James is currently 49 eurocents.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/45948-stan-james-acquires-betdirect.html?highlight=stan+james+limits#post398107

[betplom]

This guy has a huge limit at stan james



http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...its#post398107

To give yourself some credibility, why not post a reference to other people claiming to get the boot or being limited at Canbet or Centrebet.

YOU can't be the only one, can you? LOL.

I'm familiar with the amount of posters claiming limits being cut at B365 but am not aware of it at Centrebet/Canbet/Stan James.

[englishmike]

i get it. Having been told your experience is not my experience and my experience is not neccessarily anyone elses, you decide to trawl through old threads to try to prove a point that cannot be proved to me because it's not my experience, but then, I'm a soccer bettor.

Are you stamping your feet as you trawl the SBR archive? I seem to recall we've been down this road before and on that occasion, you once again refused to beleive anyone but yourself.

I think I'll step out gracefully.

[betplom]

i get it. Having been told your experience is not my experience and my experience is not neccessarily anyone elses, you decide to trawl through old threads to try to prove a point that cannot be proved to me because it's not my experience, but then, I'm a soccer bettor.

Are you stamping your feet as you trawl the SBR archive?

So much for finding him "intersting" eh EMike?

I believe I could legitimately use the word cunt when referring to Durito. He's truly worthy.

[englishmike]

To give yourself some credibility, why not post a reference to other people claiming to get the boot or being limited at Canbet or Centrebet.

YOU can't be the only one, can you? LOL.

I'm familiar with the amount of posters claiming limits being cut at B365 but am not aware of it at Centrebet/Canbet/Stan James.

I personally have never had a problem at BET365 but I do accept other people have.

[durito]

i get it. Having been told your experience is not my experience and my experience is not neccessarily anyone elses, you decide to trawl through old threads to try to prove a point that cannot be proved to me because it's not my experience, but then, I'm a soccer bettor.

Are you stamping your feet as you trawl the SBR archive? I seem to recall we've been down this road before and on that occasion, you once again refused to beleive anyone but yourself.

I think I'll step out gracefully.

You don't get it Mike. I'm not arguing with you. I'm just pointing out some peoples experience. It's somewhat clear that some of these books examine accounts from outside England with more scrutiny.

[durito]

To give yourself some credibility, why not post a reference to other people claiming to get the boot or being limited at Canbet or Centrebet.

YOU can't be the only one, can you? LOL.

I'm familiar with the amount of posters claiming limits being cut at B365 but am not aware of it at Centrebet/Canbet/Stan James.

To be perfectly honest I've never played at Centrebet and know nothing about it.

That Stan James limits people is a widely acknowledged fact. It's perhaps not as bad as b3.65, but no one is.

Canbet also limits, perhaps no where near as easily or as low.

[englishmike]

It's hard Plommer, I bet the +600 and +400 winners at Bet365 and Stan James, it's kinda hard to muster the enthusiasm to defend myself against someone who has no way of knowing whether what I'm saying is true or not and therefore has no real right to question it.

[betplom]

I personally have never had a problem at BET365 but I do accept other people have.

It seems as though Durito may have finally caught on, his posts now have been edited to "."

LOL.

To be perfectly honest I've never played at Centrebet and know nothing about it.

That Stan James limits people is a widely acknowledged fact. It's perhaps not as bad as b3.65, but no one is.

Canbet also limits, perhaps no where near as easily or as low.

Durito, you initially claimed you got booted/cut at Canbet and Centrebet, then you edited/deleted those threads and now say this.

Mikey said it very well, you can be intersting and *coughs* likeable but sometimes you needlessly step on feet when its totally un-called for.

I prefer being able to communicate intelligently with you rather than slinging mud, I'm perfectly willing if you would show some courtesy.

It's hard Plommer, I bet the +600 and +400 winners at Bet365 and Stan James, it's kinda hard to muster the enthusiasm to defend myself against someone who has no way of knowing whether what I'm saying is true or not and therefore has no real right to question it.

Mike, my experiences are similar to yours, last year betting NHL hockey I was wagering $1800 -$6000 on games with Canbet, went on a big win streak, Canbet accepted any wager less than $4500 online immediately and made me call in to bet above that, never limited not kicked out. This is why they are to this day my favourite.

[durito]

It's hard Plommer, I bet the +600 and +400 winners at Bet365 and Stan James, it's kinda hard to muster the enthusiasm to defend myself against someone who has no way of knowing whether what I'm saying is true or not and therefore has no real right to question it.

Mike-

Listen to me. I am not arguing with you or questioning what you are saying.

I am simply reporting my own personal experience.

[englishmike]

It's somewhat clear that some of these books examine accounts from outside England with more scrutiny.

OK, now that is 100% true and I have no problem in beleiving that 'foreign' bettors are also the subject of checks and verification that an English person would never be subjected to.

I've read the threads you refer to and it is noticeable that the people booted were either betting 'minority' sports or were located abroad.

I couldn't begin to think why they would be treated any differently other than paranoia.