Canbet, Centrebet, Ladbrokes, Stan James vs Pinny, CRIS, DSI, Greek etc - RANT

[xstud]

YEAH.. what mike said

[APK]

APK: With respect, I've made it VERY clear throughout the whole thread I'm talking specifically and unequivically about UK soccer, i'm sure 25 euros could shift the Graz price, that's why i'd be happy to post Ladbokes full list next Monday and we can see how many stay the same.

I have a living to earn, later.

Ah okay, it looked to me that it was more pointed towards UK soccer later on in the topic.

But why Ladbrokes and not Stan James or Bet365?
I'm not resident in the UK myself, so I don't know if they have many shops, or any at all for that matter.

Anyway, it's a nice experiment.
Even though I hardly bet on English soccer myself, probably because the prices hardly move.

[englishmike]

Good point about Ladbrokes, I'll use Stan James. I'll post their full coupon on Monday and you can rip me to pieces on Friday! GL.

[durito]

You're right, myself and the author of this book are pathalogical liars.

http://www.fixed-odds-sports-betting.co.uk/

This is an excellent book on staking strategies.

[durito]

Why did dorito edit all of his posts last night?

I decided arguing with Plom was not worth my time. I have very limited knowledge of european bookmakers.

Santo and Heeehaww on the other hand are the sharpest euro based players on this forum. They should be listened to (RJ as well).

[englishmike]

I decided arguing with Plom was not worth my time. I have very limited knowledge of european bookmakers.

Santo and Heeehaww on the other hand are the sharpest euro based players on this forum. They should be listened to (RJ as well).

lol yet i'm the only person who posts his soccer plays and is 8 units up in the last month. Some people talk about betting, (yourself included) others pick winners.

You edited your posts because you were shown to be a patronizing fool, quite an acheivement for the 'sharpest' poster on the board.

[durito]

lol yet i'm the only person who posts his soccer plays and is 8 units up in the last month. Some people talk about betting, (yourself included) others pick winners.

Mike-

What the hell are you talking about?

[englishmike]

Mike-

What the hell are you talking about?

people aren't interested in peoples opinion of who's 'sharp,' they want winners. Winners=cash.

[durito]

people aren't interested in peoples opinion of who's 'sharp,' they want winners. Winners=cash.

Mike you seem to know your stuff regarding soccer (and betting in general) and that's great.

But I don't know what that has to do with the subject of this particular thread. Nor am I sure what it is we are arguing about.


fwiw -- despite all the frequent accusations of never posting "plays" people make of me, i've posted plenty of "plays" and other picks over the last 2+ years here. you can find them in the correct ****ing sub-forums.

[betplom]

Why did dorito edit all of his posts last night?

He edited/deleted his posts because they clearly showed he was not being truthful.

The first post he deleted mentioned how he was limited at Canbet AND Centrebet. He later went on to say he has never played at Centrebet.

His habit of entering a thread for the sole purpose of taking a crap on the original poster (me) finally caught up with him.

Anyone with half a brain could see the whole point of my thread was to share my experiences good/bad with the various UK/Aussie and offshore books. The whole point of it was to show how vastly superior customer service is from the big UK bookies.

Durito saw an opportunity to mention something irrelevant to the thread to show his perceived superiority and make himself feel better.

The way he describes being "cut" at certain books feels like an attempt to make anyone not limited at that book feel stupid.

Like EnglishMike I've not been limited at any of these books, probably because I have many sportsbook accounts and don't play exclusively at any one place for a great length of time.

His answer to why he deleted his threads is laughable, he claims he didn't want to argue, but in fact he did argue (for quite a while) and tried to insult as well, his now deleted messages clearly showed that, it also showed he was wrong.

Durito isn't as sharp as he thinks he is.

[englishmike]

Mike you seem to know your stuff regarding soccer (and betting in general) and that's great.

But I don't know what that has to do with the subject of this particular thread. Nor am I sure what it is we are arguing about.


fwiw -- despite all the frequent accusations of never posting "plays" people make of me, i've posted plenty of "plays" and other picks over the last 2+ years here. you can find them in the correct ****ing sub-forums.

I take you at your word, sorry for the mix-up.

[durito]

He edited/deleted his posts because they clearly showed he was not being truthful.

The first post he deleted mentioned how he was limited at Canbet AND Centrebet. He later went on to say he has never played at Centrebet.

His habit of entering a thread for the sole purpose of taking a crap on the original poster (me) finally caught up with him.

Anyone with half a brain could see the whole point of my thread was to share my experiences good/bad with the various UK/Aussie and offshore books. The whole point of it was to show how vastly superior customer service is from the big UK bookies.

Durito saw an opportunity to mention something irrelevant to the thread to show his perceived superiority and make himself feel better.

The way he describes being "cut" at certain books feels like an attempt to make anyone not limited at that book feel stupid.

Like EnglishMike I've not been limited at any of these books, probably because I have many sportsbook accounts and don't play exclusively at any one place for a great length of time.

His answer to why he deleted his threads is laughable, he claims he didn't want to argue, but in fact he did argue (for quite a while) and tried to insult as well, his now deleted messages clearly showed that, it also showed he was wrong.

Durito isn't as sharp as he thinks he is.

This is so far from the truth it's laughable.

I said those books limit quickly. I never said anything about me personally. And yes I've had my limits cut at Stan James and Canbet.

Everything else I said in this thread has been confirmed by other people.

I really don't give a shit whether you think I am "sharp" or not. I do appreciate that you play at all those books.

[betplom]

This is so far from the truth it's laughable.

I said those books limit quickly. I never said anything about me personally. And yes I've had my limits cut at Stan James and Canbet.

Too bad you deleted your earliest posts, if you had left them untouched people could actually make a decision themselves.

For myself and anyone else that got a chance to read those deleted posts know exactly what you said, deleting the truth so you can tell a different story now is pathetic.

If you only had the ability to pay attention and stay on topic you wouldn't look so foolish to others.

Your explanation of not wanting to argue is funny, you seemed to be quite into arguing until you realized you were wrong.

[Santo]

lol yet i'm the only person who posts his soccer plays and is 8 units up in the last month. Some people talk about betting, (yourself included) others pick winners.

You edited your posts because you were shown to be a patronizing fool, quite an acheivement for the 'sharpest' poster on the board.

Posting plays is not positively correlated to betting knowledge (in fact, if you look around here, RX etc, probably the opposite). The plays I make aren't mine to post.

Two ways to be successful, a) Know the sport inside out, b) Know the market inside out. I do (b) and obtain (a) through various means.

[kiwi]

To be perfectly honest I've never played at Centrebet and know nothing about it.

Anyway, Centrebet limits heavily for sure. Especially during the last three months they have changed their approach towards successful bettors.

That Stan James limits people is a widely acknowledged fact. It's perhaps not as bad as b3.65, but no one is.

StanJames and Bet365 limit for sure - they play in the same (low) league.

The only books who don't limit concerning soccer are asian books and Pinnacle (the odds of TheGreek are not competitive enough to be mentioned here).
By the way Pinnacle has become rather useful for soccer as long as one doesn't insist to play 1X2-bets only. For these bets 188Bet is a good choice.

For live betting, half time betting and a rich selection of asian odds asian bookmakers are clearly the best choice.

[durito]

<gee i clearly have no idea what i am talking about>


thanks for the helpful info as always kiwi

[fiveteamer]

kiwi, do not ever question dorito, he is so good, betfair cut his limits.

[durito]

kiwi, do not ever question dorito, he is so good, betfair cut his limits.

Can you read?

He didn't question me at all.

Nice avatar.

[betplom]

Can you read?

He didn't question me at all.

Nice avatar.

How does it feel?

Pay attention, you might just learn something.

Somehow I doubt you will be able to ignore this post, even after telling everyone you didn't feel like arguing with me.

You LOVE arguing, almost as much as you love lying.

[fiveteamer]

hoopster42 and durito should have an argue-off

argue about what tastes better, Dr. Pepper or Orangina


GO!!!

[betplom]

hoopster42 and durito should have an argue-off

argue about what tastes better, Dr. Pepper or Orangina


GO!!!

Durito would argue, realize how stupid he appears, then delete his posts saying he didn't really want to lose argue.

[durito]

How does it feel?

Pay attention, you might just learn something.

Somehow I doubt you will be able to ignore this post, even after telling everyone you didn't feel like arguing with me.

You LOVE arguing, almost as much as you love lying.

Actually I just like making fun of feeble minded individuals.

[durito]

Durito would argue, realize he lost the argument, then delete his posts saying he didn't really want to lose argue.

You know what my posts said.


That info has been confirmed by HewHaww, Santo, RJ, and Kiwi.

There's really nothing left to say here.

[betplom]

Actually I just like making fun of feeble minded individuals.

Self-deprecating humor is a good start.

You know what my posts said.

That info has been confirmed by HewHaww, Santo, RJ, and Kiwi.

There's really nothing left to say here.

Why did you need to delete that info then?

Lemme guess, because you don't want to argue?

There is a lesson here, you have failed to figure it out, genius liar that you are.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

hoopster42 and durito should have an argue-off

argue about what tastes better, Dr. Pepper or Orangina

What odds an agreement?

Yes +1200
No -2000

A mere 3% hold, special low juice in the hope of provoking a fight



ps limits aren't always caused by longterm sharp value betting, often I think they're the result of bringing attention to your account (eg betting on bad lines, steambetting, or huge monster arbs).

[betplom]

What odds an agreement?

Yes +1200
No -2000

A mere 3% hold, special low juice in the hope of provoking a fight

No for the max, this one is the only true lock I've seen posted.

HeeHaWWW, I understood the facts you made and have no quarrel, my beef is that within minutes of my posting an innocuous initial thread, Durito felt the need (as he often does) to belittle or ridicule my message, then wants to change the subject and argue, only to later claim he didn't want to argue and delete his messages.

Durito may have some useful knowledge, it appears that he'd rather ridicule rather than assist.

His personality is on par with a pile of shit.

[durito]

Durito felt the need (as he often does) to belittle or ridicule my message,

This isn't close to what my intention or post was.

You gave reasons why you liked particular books better. I gave reasons I didn't. There was nothing more to it until you started freaking out.

I will stop posting in your threads from now on.

[betplom]

This isn't close to what my intention or post was.

You gave reasons why you liked particular books better. I gave reasons I didn't. There was nothing more to it until you started freaking out.

I will stop posting in your threads from now on.

THAT would be appreciated and very generous, I never would have figured you to be so charitable.

Maybe you didn't understand that your initial response was offensive and un-called for, instead of trying to correct it you decided to carry on fighting over it.
I believe you were ignorant of this.

This could have easily been settled earlier.

[donjuan]

lol yet i'm the only person who posts his soccer plays and is 8 units up in the last month. Some people talk about betting, (yourself included) others pick winners.

Why are people so focused on short term results? Your posts in this thread about +400 teams that have +EV that lose having no value shows a lack of understanding of how sporting events work. It's not like the winner is predetermined and thus the results of the game can be represented by a probability distribution and the actual result is just a point on the distribution rather than some definitive result that shows someone to be right or wrong. The sooner you understand this, the more successful you will be.

[durito]

ps limits aren't always caused by longterm sharp value betting, often I think they're the result of bringing attention to your account (eg betting on bad lines, steambetting, or huge monster arbs).

Absolutely, and in the past I was not so smart about this.

Nevertheless, Bet365 limited me for no discernible reason whatsoever. (this was years ago when they advertised here and took US clients)

[betplom]

.

What are the chances?

The only poster that could possibly trump Durito shows up with more garbage.

Donjuan is like a fly, once the shit shows up Donjuan is certain to follow. Like a moth to a flame.

I may have to start posts on Friday nights, when the J*ws (hopefully) aren't around.

[donjuan]

What are the chances?

The only poster that could possibly trump Durito shows up with more garbage.

Donjuan is like a fly, once the shit shows up Donjuan is certain to follow. Like a moth to a flame.

I may have to start posts on Friday nights, when the J*ws (hopefully) aren't around.

Ad hominem attacks are all you have left. Pathetic.

[betplom]

Ad hominem attacks are all you have left. Pathetic.

You are worthy of them, your input was certain to cause friction, and you still choose to fan the flames.

THAT is pathetic.

If you wish to avoid these "attacks" don't participate in my threads.

Simple.

Perhaps like most of the jewish boys I knew, you want to be ridiculed and won't/can't resist participating where you aren't welcome.

[kiwi]

This isn't really an issue with canbet, who have asian-style risk management on soccer and rarely get caught with their pants down on lines like that.

Canbet/IASBet simply copy the odds of SBOBET and add some juice. So actually they have _never_ better odds than SBOBET and therefore at the moment I don't use them.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Canbet/IASBet simply copy the odds of SBOBET and add some juice. So actually they have _never_ better odds than SBOBET and therefore at the moment I don't use them.

Aha, that makes sense, thanks. Looking back on my spreadsheet I've not placed a soccer bet there in ages, so that explains why.