I Have Called Off Contest With Nicky and LT

[Nicky Santoro]

i am 110000% in the right here. i said 705 pm time stamp.. which i did. these lines do NOT update properly on sbr.. so i should suffer?? i beat the 705 time, i got the right line i wanted in time.. how is this my fault.. this will happen 244 more times again, trust me..


no way i am taking +191 tomorrow instead of my +203 because sbr doesn't update properly.. sorry..

[onthewhat]

LT and Nicky: how about this

If the guy can prove through some line service, that he got the line at the time he posted, its a valid play. Line services are simply not reliable enough to only use one service, we should be using multiple.

Also we should ask JJ Gold, the king of line services, to check his subscription services to verify the +183 at 7:03. Maybe we can make JJ the tiebreaker and if he can find the line on one of his line services, it is valid.

That should be the new rule.

[daggerkobe]

SBR Odds shows Edmonton +181 at 7:02, inferring there was no further movement after that time and +181 is the closing number and therefore accurate as of 7:05, the time of Nicky's post.

Go watch USC beat the Raiders.

There's two LINE SERVICES contradicting it.


Nitwits.

[fiveteamer]

I like sbrlines.

It is good.

But not always accurate.

[MonkeyF0cker]

You should play by the established rules, which you are not. You are so far from "in the right," it's ridiculous.

[Nicky Santoro]

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[daggerkobe]

Hey idiot, SBR Odds only timestamps line changes. It doesn't show what the line was every minute. How stupid are you?

Already back from exploiting little girls?

Your mama must be proud.

Fvcking pedophile.

[LT Profits]

So what you're saying is you won't even abide by your OWN rule?

Your rule is pretty specific. It states TIMESTAMP must match SBRLines.... so tell us, since he bet at 7:05... show us what the line on SBRLine was at 7:05, as per your own rule. You can't because NO LINE EXISTS to match with, as per your own rule!!!!!

Don't blame others because your rule was poorly written. Had you said "SBRLines are final" then you'd have a case, but you did not say so. Overruled!!!!!

Monkey explained it perfectly, and the rule is clearly written. If there is not change after 7:02, then that line holds for all timestamps until game time. Again, you can't be that dense.

[fiveteamer]

11/10 7:04pm NYR-201 EDM+183 EDM-183 NYR+173 5.5 +109 5.5 -119

[MonkeyF0cker]

There's two LINE SERVICES contradicting it.


Nitwits.

Uhh. They agreed to only one line service so that's pretty much insignificant, genius.

[rjt721]

There's two LINE SERVICES contradicting it.


Nitwits.

I never said SBR Odds was accurate, moron.

[LT Profits]

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[onthewhat]

LT, why not use my rule proposition?

[fiveteamer]

ppl calling Nicky a cheater, obviously he got his +183.

Why not just accept that fact?

**** what sbrlines says.

[daggerkobe]

I never said SBR Odds was accurate, moron.

It's not a matter of accuracy, retard.

It's about LT not understanding his own f'n rule.

[rjt721]

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[daggerkobe]

Uhh. They agreed to only one line service so that's pretty much insignificant, genius.

Doesn't matter, pedophile.

He agreed to the timestamp having to match the bets. It didn't.

Go drool over more young girls you can't have.

[Nicky Santoro]

fiver, even that way, they wont want to understand it.. you see, it's ok for me to bet everyday +200 and get only +188 cause it's me.. but had that been LT, they'd all be saying i am wrong and sbr sucks and we should not count it.. lol

this LT clan here makes me laugh...

[fiveteamer]

Why should Nicky get cheated because sbrlines is inaccurate?

[rjt721]

It's not a matter of accuracy, retard.

It's about LT not understanding his own f'n rule.

Hey stupid, if a line service shows a line (+181 in this instance) at 7:02 and there's no further movement after that, the number is still +181 at 7:05.

[Nicky Santoro]

Hey stupid, if a line service shows a line (+181 in this instance) at 7:02 and there's no further movement after that, the number is still +181 at 7:05.

but rjt buddy, there was movement, that's just it... if it didn't move, i understand, BUT IT DID..

[daggerkobe]

So what you're saying is if SBRLines stops updating 2 hours prior he should accept that line.

Answer it, stupid fvck.

[LT Profits]

I understand my rule perfectly, and we CAN'T change the rules once the contest has started with money at stake. If Nicky doesn't undestand that, then there is no point in going on.

And anybody that doesn't see that I am right as the rules are written should get a comprehension exam.

Anyhow, I am done. This is totally ridiculous and I even get the feeling that if Nicky admitted that he is wrong, he'll find something else to cry about tomorrow. I did not know Nicky before this contest and had no idea he had such a volatile personality. I am not going to baby hiim when the rules are clear as day.

[MonkeyF0cker]

fiver, even that way, they wont want to understand it.. you see, it's ok for me to bet everyday +200 and get only +188 cause it's me.. but had that been LT, they'd all be saying i am wrong and sbr sucks and we should not count it.. lol

this LT clan here makes me laugh...

You agreed to the rules. How is anyone in the wrong but you? You can't change the rules mid-race just because they suddenly don't work in your favor. An agreement is an agreement. You are obviously not a man of your word.

[rjt721]

So what you're saying is if SBR Odds stops updating 2 hours prior he should accept that line.

Answer it, stupid fvck.

YES!!! How many times do you want me to answer the same question? They agreed to SBR Odds for better or worse and whether it's accurate or not. If Nicky took issue with the accuracy of SBR Odds, he should have done so before the contest started and before he agreed to the rules. What part of this basic concept is failing to resonate through that retarded head of yours?

[Patrick McIrish]

The goal should be to make this contest as realistic as possible. Nicky beats sportbooks because of the little tricks he knows in how to get the best # available. I swear I've never seen a guy that always gets the best line, its almost uncanny. That's what it takes to win though, especially in some sports where he doesn't know 10 guys that even play the sport.

Anyway my 2 cents would be quit arguing over what has already transpired and fix it for the future. If you want to beat him then verify the lines through DB or some other reputable line service so he's able to use true lines that he bet and were available. That's only fair. Unless you two are just posturing now and already decided to quit, adjust the rules to something you both can agree on and let's get back on it. Contests like this have to be tweaked all the time, as long as both have a desire to carry on it's usually not a big deal to make an adjustment here or there.

[Nicky Santoro]

LT, you know i am right, i know i am right, and most important, GOD knows i am right..

there is no way i can continue when I have bets at +209 and sbr has it at +196.. and this will happen many many times this year.. fix this problem, and my 2k will be there tomorrow.

[daggerkobe]

YES!!! How many times do you want me to answer the same question? They agreed to SBR Odds for better or worse and whether it's accurate or not. If Nicky took issue with the accuracy of SBR Odds, he should have done so before the contest started and before he agreed to the rules. What part of this basic concept is failing to resonate through that retarded head of yours?

So you think 5:05 is the same TIMESTAMP as 7:05....

wow, you are the dumbest mofo I have ever seen. Congratulations!

[MonkeyF0cker]

This was the agreed upon measure so that they would not be using stale lines. Unfortunately, it is not perfect, but it's far better than stale lines and is the only source that was agreed upon in the rules. So you have to live with it.

[rjt721]

but rjt buddy, there was movement, that's just it... if it didn't move, i understand, BUT IT DID..

But it didn't according to SBR Odds, Nicky. I understand SBR Odds failed to pick up the line moving from +181 to +183, but that's not the point. I'm not sure why you think I'm against you. I can assure you that if the roles were reversed I'd be saying you're right and LT's in the wrong. It's as simple as this - you both agreed to use SBR Odds. SBR Odds shows +181 at the time of your post. That's it. End of discussion.

[donjuan]

LT, you know i am right, i know i am right, and most important, GOD knows i am right..

there is no way i can continue when I have bets at +209 and sbr has it at +196.. and this will happen many many times this year.. fix this problem, and my 2k will be there tomorrow.

If you guys want to suspend the contest until you find a better alternative to SBR Odds, that is fair. But you still need to go with +181 on this bet because that is what the mutually agreed upon rules were at the time of the bet.

[daggerkobe]

I understand my rule perfectly, and we CAN'T change the rules once the contest has started with money at stake. If Nicky doesn't undestand that, then there is no point in going on.

And anybody that doesn't see that I am right as the rules are written should get a comprehension exam.

Anyhow, I am done. This is totally ridiculous and I even get the feeling that if Nicky admitted that he is wrong, he'll find something else to cry about tomorrow. I did not know Nicky before this contest and had no idea he had such a volatile personality. I am not going to baby hiim when the rules are clear as day.

Wow, this is the longest BS "I surrender" letter I have ever read. If you really wanted to continue, you'd amend the rules to read "SBRLine is FINAL" as you should have in the first place.

Now you are using this to bawk bawk bawk bawk away from a match you know you'd lose.

[rjt721]

So you think 5:05 is the same TIMESTAMP as 7:05....

wow, you are the dumbest mofo I have ever seen. Congratulations!

Did I say that? You're such an idiot. According to the rules, that would be how it's graded. Keep in mind I DIDN'T MAKE THE FUCKING RULES.

[MonkeyF0cker]

There is no sense in arguing with dagger about the simplest matters in life. He just can't comprehend them.

[daggerkobe]

Did I say that? You're such a moron. According to the rules, that would be how it's graded. Keep in mind I DIDN'T MAKE THE FUCKING RULES.

Wrong, again!

Big surprise!

The fact that he didn't include "SBRLines is FINAL" but instead specificially states: "TIMESTAMP" makes you look like a nitwit.