I Have Called Off Contest With Nicky and LT

[Nicky Santoro]

dags,

thank you very much. i'd been saying this now for 2.5 hrs that i got it at pinny at 704 pm, not 705 pm. .not my fault SBR line service didn't pick it up.. i got it at +183 at 704 pm. why the fukk would i try to steal 2 cents for.. it's a 500 game contest..


thanks again, DAGS..

and btw LT... go FU-CK yourself, you weasel.. I DON'T LIE when i say i got +183.

[rjt721]

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[LT Profits]

you broke the rules.. not me.. we said 705 stamp, not later and i beat it.. pinny +183 was line..and you know it.

you are a fukkin weasel and if this didn't happen today, it would have happened soon.. thank god i saw this side of you today..

you think i am going to live this shit for 7 months with you, just to earn 2k from you... (which btw, i would have won)..

Oh I agree with 7:05 timestamp. What you are seemigly unable to grasp is that SBR Odds has +181 at 7:05. AGAIN, the fact that you actually got +183 is irrelevant. Why you do not see this is truly beyond me.

[onthewhat]

Oh I agree with 7:05 timestamp. What you are seemigly unable to grasp is that SBR Odds has +181 at 7:05. AGAIN, the fact that you actually got +183 is irrelevant. Why you do not see this is truly beyond me.

Why are we fukkin using a shitty ass line service?

Here is the scenario: Nicky is on Pinnacle, one of the books where lines are grabbed from for the contest. He makes bet, he hurries to post the bet 2 mins before game time

You make accusation he made up a false line, Nicky says I bet that line at 703 at Pinny, you say SBR Odds shows +181 not +183

SBR Odds fukking sucks, if the guy can prove on any line service he got that number at that time or a screen shot it should be a valid line.

[Nicky Santoro]

Why are we fukkin using a shitty ass line service?

Here is the scenario: Nicky is on Pinnacle, one of the books where lines are grabbed from for the contest. He makes bet, he hurries to post the bet 2 mins before game time

You make accusation he made up a false line, Nicky says I bet that line at 703 at Pinny, you say SBR Odds shows +181 not +183

SBR Odds fukking sucks, if the guy can prove on any line service he got that number at that time or a screen shot it should be a valid line.

amen

but dont worry onner, he will find another excuse next time..

[LT Profits]

Actually, Matt Rain also posted another line service that had +181 at 7:05, and it showed line going to +183 at 7:06

[onthewhat]

Actually, Matt Rain also posted another line service that had +181 at 7:05, and it showed line going to +183 at 7:06

And another one had line at +183 much earlier than that, line services are not reliable

[daggerkobe]

Check this out:



Line history from SBR Odds:

11/10 06:50PM: +175 / -185
11/10 07:01PM: +178 / -191
11/10 07:02PM: +181 / -196

End of story.

So you can tell someone he can use Pinnacle, then deny him the line he got. How is that fair?

Plus, he bet between 7:03 - 7:05pm, which SBR Odds has not updated as they stopped monitoring at 7:02. So timestamp clause is null and void as the info is not available.

An obvious glitch in SBR Odds is not a reason to call someone a liar.

[rjt721]

So you can tell someone he can use Pinnacle, then deny him the line he got. How is that fair?

Plus, he bet between 7:03 - 7:05pm, which SBRLines has not updated as they stopped monitoring at 7:02. So timestamp clause is null and void as the info is not available.

An obvious glitch in SBRLines is not a reason to call someone a liar.

Fair or not, those are the terms Nicky agreed to. If he objected to anything, he should have said something BEFORE the contest started.

[daggerkobe]

I am sure Pinny had it at +183 7:03 since I bet on this game (a rare hockey play for me) and was monitoring the lines (directly from Pinny). Which is why I was pretty sure Nicky got the line he said he got and my fact finding mission verified it.

[daggerkobe]

Fair or not, those are the terms Nicky agreed to. If he objected to anything, he should have said something BEFORE the contest started.

The terms DO NOT apply since SBRLines obviously stopped updating its lines at 7:02.

Even following the letters of the term, how can you verify the timestamp when there isn't one?

So if you bet +183 at 7:03 and SBRLines only updated to 6:31 at +171, he should be forced to accept +171? How is that fair?

Do you get it now??????

[daggerkobe]

Edmonton won..... Nicky should be up +1.83 units.

[reno cool]

If Nicky's bets are last second and thats a significant part of what gains him an edge he should be allowed to this. Change the rules if need be.

You should both be allowed to do your best.

BTW, luck will have a lot to do with the results over 500 games, so don't take it too personally.

[rjt721]

The terms DO NOT apply since SBR Odds obviously stopped updating its lines at 7:02.

Even following the letters of the term, how can you verify the timestamp when there isn't one?

So if you bet +183 at 7:03 and SBR Odds only updated to 6:31 at +171, he should be forced to accept +171? How is that fair?

Do you get it now??????

Is there a stipulation in the rules that says the terms don't apply if/when SBR Odds stops updating? Didn't think so.

Do you get it now?

I didn't make the rules. I also didn't agree to them. Nicky did. And according to the rules, +181 is the line.

[LT Profits]

If Nicky's bets are last second and thats a significant part of what gains him an edge he should be allowed to this. Change the rules if need be.

You should both be allowed to do your best.

BTW, luck will have a lot to do with the results over 500 games, so don't take it too personally.

No one was denying him the right to bet at last second. But we HAVE to have some line source, and we agreed to one. If he wanted a different source, he needed to speak up sooner.

[Nicky Santoro]

dags, appreciate your work here pal.

reno, you are right, i put in late bets when lines move 11 cents at a time and sbr won't catch it. i alraedy offered LT a deal with the stale lines for 30 min or so, but he wont do it.. its fair for both.. i agreed to lines up to 705 time stamp..

rjt, it's obvious you want me just to lose.. but it's ok.. i dont care, cause i wouldn't have lost to this fraud.. i would have beat his ass..,

[daggerkobe]

Answer the damn question..... if SBRLines stops at 6:31pm, should Nicky be forced to take +171 over +183 that he got? Even though all other line services clearly show that it was +183.

Nicky did agree to the rules. What rule did he break? It clearly states the timestamp would be compared to SBRLines... so show me what the lines were for 7:03pm.


Use your damn common sense.

[AMBlai01]

Is there a stipulation in the rules that says the terms don't apply if/when SBR Odds stops updating? Didn't think so.

Do you get it now?

I didn't make the rules. I also didn't agree to them. Nicky did. And according to the rules, +181 is the line.

Hate to say it but Nicky Doesn't have a leg to stand on in this one.

[rjt721]

rjt, it's obvious you want me just to lose.. but it's ok.. i dont care, cause i wouldn't have lost to this fraud.. i would have beat his ass..,

Not true at all. I'm a neutral party with no vested interest either way. But rules are rules.

[daggerkobe]

How did he break the rules if there isn't a damn rule in the first place????

I don't see anywhere that states "If SBRLines stops updating its lines, you have to accept the last posted lines."

All it says is timestamps will be compared to SBRLines... then show me were the damn 7:03 is?????????????

[rjt721]

Answer the damn question..... if SBR Odds stops at 6:31pm, should Nicky be forced to take +171 over +183 that he got? Even though all other line services clearly show that it was +183.

Yes. They agreed to SBR Odds being the official source whether it's 100% accurate or not.

[daggerkobe]

Wrong.

They agreed to "TIMESTAMP on SBRLines".....

[LT Profits]

If the last update is 7:02, then OBVIOUSLY that line still holds at 7:05. I don't understand you people.

[LT Profits]

Wrong.

They agreed to "TIMESTAMP on SBRLines".....

Right. See my last post.

[Matt Rain]

How did he break the rules if there isn't a damn rule in the first place????

I don't see anywhere that states "If SBRLines stops updating its lines, you have to accept the last posted lines."

All it says is timestamps will be compared to SBRLines... then show me were the damn 7:03 is?????????????

To be fair, SBRlines is spotty at best. It rarely if ever reflects the lines that were available at the time it mentions, and it misses like 80-90% of all line moves at places like Pinny and Matchbook.


That said, boooo to both LT and Nicky, you uncompromising pricks.

[reno cool]

Somebody's going to have to take the high road. Everyone is looking like they want to quit.
be flexible

[Matt Rain]

LT, aren't you a Sports Insights subscriber anyway?

[LT Profits]

Rules are rules, so I am in the right. If Nicky comes to his senses, we'll continue.

[LT Profits]

Yes I am Matt. I didn't even look there because we already agreed to SBR Odds, a source we both have access to

[Matt Rain]

I'm out of ideas. I have decided to pout. You guys suck.

[Nicky Santoro]

i will continue if LT lets me bet the games at 705 pm that pinny has... or else, forget it.. so i am not quitting.. just want to be fair.. just like DAGS said, if i have edm +183 and sbr stopped updating it at +171.. why should i suffer.. i would not make bet at +171, but only +183..

LT must allow me to bet games that are legit lines...like today.. this is bullshit.

[pavyracer]

What a bunch of cry babies! Where are your baby bottles? Suckers!

[LT Profits]

Nicky,

I will NOT bend the rules under any circumstances, ESPECIALLY with money at stake.

[LT Profits]

Nor should I

[Poker_Beast]

+181 vs +183, that is what this is about, are you fukking kidding me?