I Have Called Off Contest With Nicky and LT

[Nicky Santoro]

LT, lets try to be civil here.. do you think it's fair for me to wait till 704 pm and get TOR next game at +203, only to have SBR not update the last 2 moves and it says TOR +187?

Do you really think this is fair? i thought SBR updated lines regularly and accurately.. i did NOT expect this.. if i know a line will close at +200 or higher, why should i be forced to put it in at +187 because i know sbr won't pick it up.

we have to figure out a fair way here. this is not fair. it's fair for you cause you put in bets early in day.. i like to put in bets 24 secs before post time.. not all my bets, but a lot of them. .

what should we do then? you tell me..

[BGboothA]

Man I was really looking forward to this, I feel like like a kid who just found out Santa Wasn't real!! So disappointing.

[daggerkobe]

how are u bending the rules??? U clearly state timestamp has to match yet no 7:03, 7:04 or 7:05 exists on SBRLines. And it's not because pinny closed bets at 7:02.

[LT Profits]

+181 vs +183, that is what this is about, are you fukking kidding me?

That's not the point. He is ignoring the fact that we agreed to use SBR Odds. If I let it slide this time, then next time it might be 5 cents, then 10 cents, etc...

[pico]

the way i see it the game is suspended after 1 full round. according to standard grading rule, it'll go to the score of the last full round if the contest is not resume in 48 hours.

so far nicky is leading, so for grading purpose, nicky is the winner.

if you think this is unfair, talk to those people who betted tampa bay when they suspended the game at 2-2.

[Poker_Beast]

That's not the point. He is ignoring the fact that we agreed to use SBR Odds. If I let it slide this time, then next time it might be 5 cents, then 10 cents, etc...

I understand the principal but if all this shit occurs after this it would never had made it a week no matter what the rules.

My money was on you but it just seems fukked up.

[LT Profits]

how are u bending the rules??? U clearly state timestamp has to match yet no 7:03, 7:04 or 7:05 exists on SBRLines. And it's not because pinny closed bets at 7:02.

Are you serious? If it is 7:05 and the last update was 7:02, it obviously means there was no change since 7:02, so you use that line. I KNOW you can't be that dense and you're reaching for a way to make Nicky look right, but he has no case here.

[LT Profits]

the way i see it the game is suspended after 1 full round. according to standard grading rule, it'll go to the score of the last full round if the contest is not resume in 48 hours.

so far nicky is leading, so for grading purpose, nicky is the winner.

if you think this is unfair, talk to those people who betted tampa bay when they suspended the game at 2-2.

Actually no, I would win. Check the results,

[pico]

Are you serious? If it is 7:05 and the last update was 7:02, it obviously means there was no change since 7:02, so you use that line. I KNOW you can't be that dense and you're reaching for a way to make Nicky look right, but he has no case here.

sbrlines is not accurate. when i bet at pinnacle, i see the line get updated few minutes later...sometimes up to 10 minutes.

[pico]

Actually no, I would win. Check the results,

in that case, you win if this contest doesn't resume in 48 hours. i didn't check that long ass thread because it was just bunch of people yelling at each other. the only pick i saw was oilers +183, so i assume he is up since he is huffing and puffing about this.

[pico]

now i think LT has a point. the rules is sbrlines, so rules are rules...even though he might have taken at 183 when he betted.

[rjt721]

SBROdds is not accurate. when i bet at pinnacle, i see the line get updated few minutes later...sometimes up to 10 minutes.

That's not the point. With a contest like this, a concrete source such as SBR Odds (or any other line service) is needed, otherwise line discrepancies such as what happened today will only continue for the remainder of the contest. The only thing that really matters is both parties agreed to SBR Odds being the official source and SBR Odds showed Edmonton +181 as the closing line, regardless of whether Pinny had +183 and/or Nicky placed his actual bet at +183.

[Panic]

Both you guys suck. Do you see what you did to posters here? Posters were calling into work and taking days off to follow this sh!t. Wives/girlfriends were being pushed out of the house and told to go shopping with their friends and not come back for 5 hours. Posters were stocking up on party supplies...inviting friends over...everyone getting ready for this showdown. And both of you just pissed on their parade. That sux. Boo...boooo...BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[pico]

you two made the mistake of using JJ as the moderator. if you two ask me to enforce the rules, there will be no argument.

[pico]

i like this contest. #1 tout vs #1 bookie

[jtuck]

SBR Odds is flawed but its the only way to assure relative accuracy long term short of using a premium line service or posting screen shots of all the wagers. Seems like it has to be +181 here, it could happen to LT in the future. Just meet at +182 and agree to use the latest available line on SBR Odds when situations like this occur in the future.

[Nicky Santoro]

Are you serious? If it is 7:05 and the last update was 7:02, it obviously means there was no change since 7:02, so you use that line.

are you freakin crazy? the line at pinny was EDM +183 at 703 pm.. and now that SBR didn't pick it up, you want me to lose on this? lol

so what happens when tomorrow i bet TOR +203 at 703 pm and SBR has it closed at TOR +191.. what now big shot?

you think this is fair?? SBR does not update lines properly.. why should i suffer?

[onthewhat]

Do you really think this is fair? i thought SBR updated lines regularly and accurately.. i did NOT expect this.. if i know a line will close at +200 or higher, why should i be forced to put it in at +187 because i know sbr won't pick it up.

Nicky has a point here LT. How the fukk was he supposed to know that SBR Odds sucks dikk and won't pick up all line movements? It has been proven that Pinny offered the line at the time Nicky said he got it...Nicky cannot be faulted for an error on SBR Odds

The way the rules are set up, LT Profits has advantage because he makes his plays at 10am, while Nicky waits til post time because he sees the public pounding a line and waits til last second to get the best number.

[pico]

looks like we might go with screen shot only contest

[sickler]

+181 vs +183, that is what this is about, are you fukking kidding me?

This type of discrepancy, if repeated often, adds up over time. Could determine the difference between winner and loser.

[rjt721]

are you freakin crazy? the line at pinny was EDM +183 at 703 pm.. and now that SBR didn't pick it up, you want me to lose on this? lol

so what happens when tomorrow i bet TOR +203 at 703 pm and SBR has it closed at TOR +191.. what now big shot?

you think this is fair?? SBR does not update lines properly.. why should i suffer?

Because you agreed to use SBR Odds.

[LT Profits]

now i think LT has a point. the rules is sbrlines, so rules are rules...even though he might have taken at 183 when he betted.

Which is exactly what I have been stressing to him, and he just blows it off and hurls insults at me as if I am cheating.

[onthewhat]

Because you in the rules you agreed to use SBR Odds.

How was he supposed to know the last update would be at 7:02 for a 7:05 start when the line moved multiple times after 7:02? SBR needs to fix this shit before contest resumes

Didn't JJ Create SBR Odds? Un fukkin real, Coach get the techs on this whore shit

[onthewhat]

Which is exactly what I have been stressing to him, and he just blows it off and hurls insults at me as if I am cheating.

If SBR Odds was functioning properly, the line would have said +183. But as we all know, nothing on SBR ever functions properly.

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky has a point here LT. How the fukk was he supposed to know that SBR Odds sucks dikk and won't pick up all line movements? It has been proven that Pinny offered the line at the time Nicky said he got it...Nicky cannot be faulted for an error on SBR Odds

The way the rules are set up, LT Profits has advantage because he makes his plays at 10am, while Nicky waits til post time because he sees the public pounding a line and waits til last second to get the best number.

thanks onner.. LT will never admit to this cause this benefits him more.. he knows that me taking +203 at pinny and then SBR closing at +191 is better for him, so he wants me to be stuck with +191.. lol..

this guy is a real tool..

[onthewhat]

The bottom line is that if SBR Odds functioned properly, it says Edm +183

We might as well draw the #s out of a hat instead of using SBR Odds

[daggerkobe]

Are you serious? If it is 7:05 and the last update was 7:02, it obviously means there was no change since 7:02, so you use that line. I KNOW you can't be that dense and you're reaching for a way to make Nicky look right, but he has no case here.

So what you're saying is you won't even abide by your OWN rule?

Your rule is pretty specific. It states TIMESTAMP must match SBRLines.... so tell us, since he bet at 7:05... show us what the line on SBRLine was at 7:05, as per your own rule. You can't because NO LINE EXISTS to match with, as per your own rule!!!!!

Don't blame others because your rule was poorly written. Had you said "SBRLines are final" then you'd have a case, but you did not say so. Overruled!!!!!

[pico]

nicky. you did not read the rules close enough. i was in the same boat for hte 128 man contest when i realized the rulez has changed from last contest.

but after thinking about this, LT is in the right, and you're in the wrong. you agreed on the rules...that you probably just glanced over and didn;t think about it close enough. LT did a good job trying to cover every situation, but nothing is perfect. if you keep hurl insults at him from this point on, it'll just makes you look weak.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What a stupid argument. Over 2 cents. You agreed to the rules, Nicky. Live by them.

[onthewhat]

dagger didnt you say you bet Edm? Post your screenshot of your Edm +183 pal, black out all info like bet size, account number, etc

[MonkeyF0cker]

So what you're saying is you won't even abide by your OWN rule?

Your rule is pretty specific. It states TIMESTAMP must match SBR Odds.... so tell us, since he bet at 7:05... show us what the line on SBRLine was at 7:05, as per your own rule. You can't because NO LINE EXISTS to match with, as per your own rule!!!!!

Don't blame others because your rule was poorly written. Had you said "SBR Odds are final" then you'd have a case, but you did not say so. Overruled!!!!!

Hey idiot, SBR Odds only timestamps line changes. It doesn't show what the line was every minute. How stupid are you?

[pico]

Hey idiot, SBR Odds only timestamps line changes. It doesn't show what the line was every minute. How stupid are you?

sometimes SBR Odds might miss a line movement. when i moved the line 2 cents, and it moved right back, it doesn't show up on SBR Odds

[LT Profits]

Even a screenshot won't do, given the rules. We can't keep posting screenshots, that is the point of having a source to begin with. The only time screenshots could come into play is if there is an OBVIOUSLY bad line feed, and that is not the case here.

[rjt721]

So what you're saying is you won't even abide by your OWN rule?

Your rule is pretty specific. It states TIMESTAMP must match SBR Odds.... so tell us, since he bet at 7:05... show us what the line on SBRLine was at 7:05, as per your own rule. You can't because NO LINE EXISTS to match with, as per your own rule!!!!!

Don't blame others because your rule was poorly written. Had you said "SBR Odds are final" then you'd have a case, but you did not say so. Overruled!!!!!

SBR Odds shows Edmonton +181 at 7:02, inferring there was no further movement after that time and +181 is the closing number and therefore accurate as of 7:05, the time of Nicky's post.

Go watch USC beat the Raiders.

[daggerkobe]

dagger didnt you say you bet Edm? Post your screenshot of your Edm +183 pal, black out all info like bet size, account number, etc

Nah, I had the Rangers.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/115347-nfl-etc.html

Nicky's the NHL sharp.